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08-29-2018 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bluefingin
The answer is "when every person who had money stolen from them is compensated 100%".

Sorry neeme, but I won't be watching any more of your videos. You've allied with the enemy. Not surprised you sold out, but for so little? At least hold out for something of real value.
If you read this Andrew, that type of post is not unusual for him and he has recently been critical of some of the other vloggers too; I just looked back at some recent posts and they were written with a similar tone. So it’s not just you.

Personally I don’t have a problem with what you are doing.
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08-29-2018 , 07:40 PM
Andrew describing talking to that executive dude for an 1 hour was like he was applying to an IV Leaugue. LMAOF!!



Who cares already. Online poker is dead and PS one of the piece of **** companies now trying to get into the social gaming platform where the worst of the worst degens buy fake chips with real money. That's the ****ing biggest ripoff out there now and the hypocritical US gov ain't doing jack ****.

All gambling corporations are unethical like one previous post stated. All I remember is FTP ****ed everybody and PS returned everybody's money back expeditiously after Black Friday. The SNE was blip on the radar most recreational players don't care about.

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08-29-2018 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by wilson1560
If that is your standard where do you play poker out of curiosity? Casinos, online poker sites, and underground operators aren't exactly known for their sterling ethical standards when it comes to how they treat their customers. Almost all gambling operators relying on profiting off of addicts to meet their bottom lines. They think nothing of taking advantage of people with poor impulse control and taking their rent, mortgage payments, etc. Heck, MGM just had the balls to preemptively sue the victims of the Vegas massacre. Acting like changing a rewards program without sufficient notice even registers on the scale of scummy behavior that gambling operators regularly engage in is laughable.
Your post is fantastic sample of moral relativism, more fashionably known today as whataboutism.
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08-29-2018 , 08:02 PM
The virtue warriors will have few spoils to show for their elitism beyond their own perception of integrity and virtue.

They are a loud, pompous and annoying minority but they are a small portion of the population nonetheless.
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08-29-2018 , 08:05 PM
If you boycott every organization that wrongs somebody, be prepared to live in a cave for the rest of your days.


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08-29-2018 , 08:22 PM
They are all going to hell in hand basket. Even that Sheldon who started a phoney boloney organization that is suppose protect Americans from online gambling. Those aholes don't even answer their emails.
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08-29-2018 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
The virtue warriors will have few spoils to show for their elitism beyond their own perception of integrity and virtue.

They are a loud, pompous and annoying minority but they are a small portion of the population nonetheless.
You're right, they are small portion of the population, which is why the world is full of crooks and cheaters today.

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08-29-2018 , 08:50 PM
And how will they ever be stopped if the Social Warrior Dark Knights don’t compel everyone to act upon their principles and values?!?
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08-29-2018 , 08:55 PM
On the SNEs

Bovada has fineprint on their website something to the extent "gambling is a recreational activity that should be used for entertainment purposes. Terms and conditions may change" 99 percent companies do.
If you are going to try use this game beyond recreation, most will be very disappointed in life.
I don't feel bad at all for those Aspergers
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08-29-2018 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
If you read this Andrew, that type of post is not unusual for him and he has recently been critical of some of the other vloggers too; I just looked back at some recent posts and they were written with a similar tone. So it’s not just you.

Personally I don’t have a problem with what you are doing.
hahahaha, yes, Andrew can now sleep easy knowing that STEVE00007 does not have a problem with what he is doing.

Anyone else you want to exonerate while you are at it.
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08-29-2018 , 09:34 PM
Well I’d like to see him keep posting here. The thread is better off when some vloggers participate.
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08-29-2018 , 11:16 PM
I could give 2 rats asses about PS since they are dead in the US. Isn't Party Poker overtaking them in Europe and Jersey anyway?

Sounds like they are getting desperate when they have one of their top execs spend an hour talking to YouTube vlogger. Who knows what other shananegans they are up to. I think Party Poker was my favorite. It was a fun platform. UB was a total scam and I always got outed on the river by that dude in Florida that stole everybody's money. Looks like Rich Checkmaster (dude In LA that lives in his van on PGC) is winning on Bovada tho. He blinked a tourney.

**** PS.
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08-29-2018 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsi
hahahaha, yes, Andrew can now sleep easy knowing that STEVE00007 does not have a problem with what he is doing.

Anyone else you want to exonerate while you are at it.
I wonder if you have another account that doesn't act like a dick all the time?

I don't remember seeing a post by you that isn't some kind of troll.

Your exile is nigh.
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08-30-2018 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Stormtrooper97
Hey OG,

Nice camera close up shot of the p..... That was making my mouth water!

Trooper's rant about all the losing hands and his vibrating broken phone a few vlogs ago was entertainment gold.
Entertainment gold? Lol. I watch his vlogs, but I found his rant annoying very quickly. I had to stop watching that one. He's the only one in the world who doesn't understand that 2 year old phones can start malfunctioning. And yes, it can happen while you're getting bad beat, Trooper. Smh.
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08-30-2018 , 03:37 AM
I can't really watch trooper's stuff much anymore does anyone know if he's beating 2/5 or 1/3 at the Wynn? I hope he's doing better.
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08-30-2018 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
Personally I couldn't give a @!#@ what Pokerstars did with a bunch of degen superelite or whatever. And as far as the rake? I mean, have any of your guys heard of inflation? I am surprised the rake hasn't gone up every year. Any way, I haven't really played online since Black Friday and won't until it becomes legal again with large worldwide player pools. So that even increases my don't give a #@$ness level on this subject.

Andrew, just don't pull a Dnegs and be their spokesperson and lie about "exciting new things coming up in the next year". Other then that, don't listen to these degenerates. With this new opportunity you will probably get 10 subscribers for each of these unsubs.
Yep
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08-30-2018 , 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
Actions speak louder than words, and virtuous actions rarely require explanation.
****in stupid reply, just had to point out. Silence in this situation would've looked way worse for Andrew. He came out and articulated a thoughtful response to the criticism from the keyboard warriors bringing up all these bull**** arguments about why he should've turned down $30k for himself and another $30k for a viewer of his vlogs.

I'll also point out, this whole argument that working with a company somehow makes that person complicit with everything that company has ever done is completely absurd. Have you ever bought/used a piece of Adidas/Puma clothing/equipment? They were founded by a couple of Nazi brothers. Does that mean you support Nazism? Do you use an American bank? Basically every big one has screwed many people out of money before. Does that mean you support theft? Could bring up ten more examples, point being... where do you draw the line? Because every single person here would be guilty of complicity based on many of the replies in this thread.
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08-30-2018 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Chazley
****in stupid reply, just had to point out. Silence in this situation would've looked way worse for Andrew. He came out and articulated a thoughtful response to the criticism from the keyboard warriors bringing up all these bull**** arguments about why he should've turned down $30k for himself and another $30k for a viewer of his vlogs.
The action I was referring to would've been to turn PS's offer down, not silence after accepting the offer.

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I'll also point out, this whole argument that working with a company somehow makes that person complicit with everything that company has ever done is completely absurd.
I agree, and nobody in this thread has made that argument.
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08-30-2018 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
The action I was referring to would've been to turn PS's offer down, not silence after accepting the offer.
I can just about guarantee that if Neeme had turned down the offer that the discussion in the thread would instead be centered around "Wow, I can't believe he turned that down, that was kinda dumb of him." and "Why would he turn that down? Someone else will just accept it anyway, so it might as well be him.", and so on and so on.

You just can't win with some people.
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08-30-2018 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
If you boycott every organization that wrongs somebody, be prepared to live in a cave for the rest of your days.


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What makes you think we are not living in a cave in NVG ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave

"Plato continues, saying that the freed prisoner would think that the world outside the cave was superior to the world he experienced in the cave; "he would bless himself for the change, and pity [the other prisoners]" and would want to bring his fellow cave dwellers out of the cave and into the sunlight (516c).[3]

The returning prisoner, whose eyes have become accustomed to the sunlight, would be blind when he re-enters the cave, just as he was when he was first exposed to the sun (516e).[3] The prisoners, according to Plato, would infer from the returning man's blindness that the journey out of the cave had harmed him and that they should not undertake a similar journey. Plato concludes that the prisoners, if they were able, would therefore reach out and kill anyone who attempted to drag them out of the cave"

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08-30-2018 , 04:11 PM
Of course he is a sellout. Your just now figuring this out? Sheesh.
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08-30-2018 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by WitchesCastle
Of course he is a sellout. Your just now figuring this out? Sheesh.


Post less.

Cheers
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08-31-2018 , 01:48 AM
Tappan posted a new video on his channel - not poker or vegas related so i wont put it here.
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08-31-2018 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
Tappan posted a new video on his channel - not poker or vegas related so i wont put it here.
I think many people forget Tappan's role in the Poker Vlogger boom. He was the first one after Trooper to put out a regular vlog, and the first one to primarily feature hand histories and though process.
He had a little motorcycle riding and hiking mixed in. I immediate fell in love with his vlogs.

He reminds me of one of my favorite TED talks, Tappon was the first follower in that talk. The rest of the dancers are Andrew, Brad, JV, Jsmon, Polk, etc.

He had to quit playing poker and vlogging due to some personal issues. Hope all is going well with him.

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08-31-2018 , 06:53 PM
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