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Originally Posted by AndrewNeeme
What if a 5/10 game has a very deep average stack, very loose players, lots of $20 straddles, and the Ballast Point Brewery nearby?
Then it's a bit disingenuous to say that you're a $150/hr winner @ 5/10.
As JV said, it's impossible to have a $150/hr winrate at the Bellagio 5/10 for example. The max is only $1500, you've got a lot of Vegas pros that are in almost every game, straddling doesn't happen often, and you can only straddle UTG. $100/hr in that 5/10 game would make you an extremely good player.
Now, you go outside Vegas and find a 5/10 game, you're going to find some VERY juicy ones, and I assume San Diego qualified. I play $5/$5 in Texas and make more than a Bellagio $5/10 pro can. Why? The games are excellent, there's no buyin cap, no pros, there's up to a $20 straddle UTG or OTB (ends up being about $12-13/hand in straddles), and we can implement any rules at the table that we want (progressive button jackpot, 2-7, bomb pots, etc.) as long as everyone at the table agrees. So, I could say "I'm making 25 bb/hr at 5/5" and give no further context, but that wouldn't be right. It's essentially an uncapped 5/10.
My point? Context matters. 10 bb/hour is a figure often thrown around but it really means nothing unless you take into consideration every factor about the game you're playing in. I truly believe if you want to play poker for a living and you're living in Vegas you're doing it wrong (purely in terms of $/hr). The games are just so much better everywhere else and your hourly isn't capped by house rules.
So, if JV claims to make $150/hr playing 5/10, I believe it's both true and misleading. We have to know exact game details, and once we do, calling it 5/10 is likely going to turn out to be a bit generous. A $150/hr winrate @ 5/10/20(25) that is uncapped is fantastic and sustainable and would be much more believable.
And for the record, this is random af... Neeme seems to get very little credit for how good of a player he is. In this thread I've seen people say Owen=Neeme or Owen>Neeme and it's absurd. Brad Owen is not even close to Neeme's level as far as poker ability. If you want to get better at your game, don't watch training sites, watch every hand JohnnieVibes and Andrew Neeme have ever put into a vlog. JV is slightly better (imo) but they're both really ****ing good at poker and are absolute crushers. Getting their insight into how to approach every aspect of a hand shouldn't be free but they both deserve a ton of credit. Props.