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12-30-2016 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LiveActionPro
This thread was good but about 5 posters who have ABSOLUTELY no Fing clue about poker keep chiming in with their professional knowledge of 1-2 NL and want to make fun of troop for not stealing blinds. If you think you should steal blinds in a 1-2 NL game your an Idiot and if you can't understand why then...........
If this is in reference to me then you're going to have to eat some humble pie. As has been stated I play online, not live, so to somehow claim that querying not stealing blinds means I 'ABSOLUTELY no Fing clue about poker' really means you may need to re-evaluate things. I'm sure no poker book or forum anywhere has ever discussed such an elementary subject....

I've only played live cash games a couple of times and I was stealing the blinds on the few opportunities I got. From reading R*R's comment there's clearly an ongoing discussion about how applicable this is in live games in comparison to online but again to claim that somehow means I have 'ABSOLUTELY no Fing clue about poker' is clearly ridiculous. I'd suggest you aim your misplaced ire elsewhere.
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12-30-2016 , 09:51 AM
i wish i could've been in that game.
*to lag monkey the table. looks like it was very deep.
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12-30-2016 , 09:59 AM
Trooper is officially a degen. lol To have that much at the table, and not have a bankroll for 2/5 is literally playing with his net worth.
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12-30-2016 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by William Murderface
I was in the game. I left about an hour ago but he was still there. It was a pretty insane game. He was playing pretty nitty but not bad by any means.

Trooper had about $3200 when I left. I'm not 100% sure but I think he was in for 1k.

He hero called someone (I think one of his friends?) on the turn for about $800 with the 2nd nut flush and a double belly buster straight flush redraw, and was good to take down a huge pot.

It was my first time ever playing with him and he was very friendly and sociable.
Mostly because his friends were at the table. Also, probably the reason he stayed in that game with that amount of chips. Trooper doesn't play PLO, so he probably was invited to the game. Hopefully, he doesn't play plo after this, because he loves to blame variance for his poker career.
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12-30-2016 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Husker
If this is in reference to me then you're going to have to eat some humble pie. As has been stated I play online, not live, so to somehow claim that querying not stealing blinds means I 'ABSOLUTELY no Fing clue about poker' really means you may need to re-evaluate things. I'm sure no poker book or forum anywhere has ever discussed such an elementary subject....

I've only played live cash games a couple of times and I was stealing the blinds on the few opportunities I got. From reading R*R's comment there's clearly an ongoing discussion about how applicable this is in live games in comparison to online but again to claim that somehow means I have 'ABSOLUTELY no Fing clue about poker' is clearly ridiculous. I'd suggest you aim your misplaced ire elsewhere.
Funny cause your statement clearly came off making fun of trooper. So obviously you don't know jack about Live and shouldn't be making opinions on the matter.
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12-30-2016 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveActionPro
Funny cause your statement clearly came off making fun of trooper. So obviously you don't know jack about Live and shouldn't be making opinions on the matter.
So you're butt hurt becuase I was questioning something he said about poker? Aren't you a precious little snowflake? As I said previously direct your ire against the trolls on this thread if you are his white knight and leave the rest of us to get on with it.
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12-30-2016 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Conz
https://twitter.com/TheTrooper97/sta...72056503877632 Trooper may be a PLO prodigy... or of course, we'll get the classic "so i was in the game for $1800..."
Bazaam! I counted 3400 in reds
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12-30-2016 , 12:25 PM
Wow Trooper, great job in the PLO game! Sure, if Trooper starts playing PLO regularly he could go busto quick...or he could discover that his edge in PLO is far greater than his edge in NLHE. Who knows, maybe he'll be playing in Limon's game soon
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12-30-2016 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by megafresh23
Trooper is officially a degen. lol To have that much at the table, and not have a bankroll for 2/5 is literally playing with his net worth.
For somebody who doesn't want this thread to be about Trooper, you sure talk about him a lot.
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12-30-2016 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackballed
For somebody who doesn't want this thread to be about Trooper, you sure talk about him a lot.
BS. Last page I took 2 post to defend Andrew Vlog and call out lies. I don't have a lot of post compared to the avg. user. He is tilting with this new mission to jump stakes, and his reasoning is something a degen would say.

Regardless, people bring up Trooper a lot, because he makes no sense. The whole moving up to 2/5 rumor I was hearing in here made me check it out, and I will admit troopers degen mind tilts me. Mostly, because he will have a bunch of people that pretend to care about him encourage him to gamble his life savings and bankroll for a vlog.

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12-30-2016 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Exactly. There is nothing wrong with stealing dead money. The differences are quite astounding though. Not sure how online poker dynamics are now but back when I played you could 2x raise it (ie the equivalent of a $4 bet in a 1/2 game) and take down the blinds. In live poker, raise sizing can be 5x or 6x to get a similar result. So you are having to risk much more to accomplish the same thing, making this a much less favorable investment.

That being said, I'm not saying there isn't merit in raising wide. I raise far wider than most grinders....not as wide as whey, but pretty damn wide.
A lot of players will call the 5x or 6x raises too much, but then will give up really easily to c-bets on the flop. So if I want to think about stealing, it wouldn't just be PF, but postflop as well.
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12-30-2016 , 01:46 PM
Where is that loser who always calls trooper "fella" to comment on Troopers taking shots at 2/5 and PLO activity? That should be interesting to read. Also need the other weirdo who has no life to tabulate all troops wins/losses for the year in a spreadsheet and break down his exact hourly rate/living expenses/worldly possessions/etc too so all the BR wizards in this thread can opine.
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12-30-2016 , 02:07 PM
One thing that kind of bothers me is Trooper makes enough off of Patreon and Youtube to pay the rent at Desort Manor. He would have a few thousand more dollars if he stayed there. It sure would have made things a lot less stressful for him. Yeah I know, his new place is so much better and Desort Manor sucks, but if he doesn't make a lot more money at poker he will eventually go broke again.

He never is homeless and always seems to come up with a solution whenever he does go broke but that seems like such a tough way to live. But a lot of people have lives like that with one crisis after another and maybe they're just used to it.

I thought he should have used the money from Patreon to give himself more breathing room but he spent money on a camera and then on a more expensive place to live without getting any better at poker first. It bothered me because I didn't want to continue to see him look so stressed and unhappy.

Someone might say that he should quit poker and just always have a job, but we know that won't happen unless the job is making Youtube videos.

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12-30-2016 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by onesickdegen
Where is that loser who always calls trooper "fella" to comment on Troopers taking shots at 2/5 and PLO activity? That should be interesting to read. Also need the other weirdo who has no life to tabulate all troops wins/losses for the year in a spreadsheet and break down his exact hourly rate/living expenses/worldly possessions/etc too so all the BR wizards in this thread can opine.
It's prime quilting bee time. They'll drop by here later.
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12-30-2016 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackballed
It's prime quilting bee time. They'll drop by here later.
Yeah they all probably ride the bus together to the library for free internet.
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12-30-2016 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackballed
It's prime quilting bee time. They'll drop by here later.
This thread is a cycle of super fans vs super trolls. With the normal people caught in the middle. Getting on people, for getting on the trooper, for doing questionable stuff. That seems biased. I don't know if you're a fan of his or not, but do you just want people in here to pat him on the back for doing dumb stuff?

You act like people don't have a point. Trooper isn't that different than an internet troll. He gets behind the lens and turns on the trooper. They get behind a keyboard and turn super troll.
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12-30-2016 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by megafresh23
This thread is a cycle of super fans vs super trolls. With the normal people caught in the middle. Getting on people, for getting on the trooper, for doing questionable stuff. That seems biased. I don't know if you're a fan of his or not, but do you just want people in here to pat him on the back for doing dumb stuff?

You act like people don't have a point. Trooper isn't that different than an internet troll. He gets behind the lens and turns on the trooper. They get behind a keyboard and turn super troll.
Who are the super fans exactly? Don't bother listing the super trolls, there's too many.

Having a "point" is one thing but droning on and on about it is another. People repeating the same bull**** over and over is another. People being rude just for the sake of it is another. This thread is a perfect example of mob mentality... there is no "cycle" here.
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12-30-2016 , 03:45 PM
re Trooper and 2/5. Wasn't it the 2/5 game that he mostly played in Jacksonville?
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12-30-2016 , 03:57 PM
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12-30-2016 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackballed
Who are the super fans exactly? Don't bother listing the super trolls, there's too many.

Having a "point" is one thing but droning on and on about it is another. People repeating the same bull**** over and over is another. People being rude just for the sake of it is another. This thread is a perfect example of mob mentality... there is no "cycle" here.
I agree for the most part. I can't argue with what you said, but the super fans are grown ups that defend troopers every wrong when they wouldn't do that for anyone else. Both sides are wrong.

Trooper use to fight with the trolls, and he has said some disrespectful stuff back to 2 plus 2. He isn't a peaceful guy. He has suggested he is willing to fight random followers if they think he's not tough. He took down a video going at his trolls. Not classy.

My main problem with trooper is he representing poker players, but really he's just a gambler and vlogger. He shouldn't talk about stealing the blinds, because he knows nothing about how to play poker successfully at lower stakes. Not because he is a bad player, but because he doesn't care to get better.
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12-30-2016 , 04:34 PM
The only problem is the negative energy. if you don't like certain vloggers, you shouldn't find it necessary to squirt all over them here ITT. It just makes you look like a hater and loser. That's basically it.
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12-30-2016 , 04:49 PM
Once again, I agree, but when is it the vloggers job to spread positive energy? Trooper looks like a HATER,too. A lot of times he has a loser attitude as well. He is pretty arrogant, and in plenty of vlogs it shows.

Andrew vlog to me has always come off like he is suggesting his opinion, and leaves room for others to have their opinion.. Trooper just throws his opinions, and does so in a manner that would call for someone to disagree openly, because he comes off like there is only one right way.
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12-30-2016 , 04:51 PM
Trooper took a shot and it paid off. Congrats to him.

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12-30-2016 , 05:00 PM
^ I am pretty sure you know poker doesn't work like that. One wild swing and makes taking that shot seem worthless. Long term, nights like that don't do much if you can't keep playing at those stakes. If you don't have a bankroll for the stakes you're playing. You're gambling.. Nothing more.
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12-30-2016 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by megafresh23
Once again, I agree, but when is it the vloggers job to spread positive energy? Trooper looks like a HATER,too. A lot of times he has a loser attitude as well. He is pretty arrogant, and in plenty of vlogs it shows.

Trooper just throws his opinions, and does so in a manner that would call for someone to disagree openly, because he comes off like there is only one right way.
Even if this were true (and, generally, I don't think it is), so what? Is it worth all this time and energy that haters put into hating him in here? Everybody questions everything he does right down to his laundry.

Half the people were ragging on him for living at Desert Manor and now that he has moved, the other half are ragging about the affordability his new place. If there is ever an ambiguity in something he's done, people in here always fill in facts and assume the worst. I think people feel they have some right to tell Trooper how to live his life but we all know that CrushedDreams is the only one that has that right. If you feel like challenging that, it will take a paternity test on Maury to settle the issue.

Trooper is just a guy trying to find his way through life. Is he perfect? No. Am I? No. Are you? We all have our faults, it's just that his are on display via the vlog.

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