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05-18-2018 , 01:15 AM
An accusation of "virtue signaling" tends to be an ad hominem attack claiming that a person is expressing a moral value for a reason other than a desire to be a moral person. It is a way to deflect attention away from the attacker not sharing that moral value.
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05-18-2018 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AndrewNeeme
Thanks for watching the videos, I really appreciate it. Some thoughts:



I don’t think I was bashing the V. I even said it’s a great room, great dealers and staff, always has a decent number of games and one of the premiere recurring tournament events in the city. Also said I don’t blame anyone for playing there. We all have to grind. I just feel weird about having a poker vlog and giving free publicity to 85k people for a business owner that harms the industry that my vlog is based on.



Regarding Wynn, I thought about that before making the video. It was a huge disappointment to say the least. As far as I know he was removed relatively quickly from all operations of the company and sold all of his shares. He was living in a villa on property and has since moved out to Summerlin. If Adelson was similarly no longer a part of the company I’d likely be happy to show off the Venetian in a vlog.



Do I pretend that I’m spotless without fault? Hell no. I try to do what’s best but there’s a decent chance you’ll find some “fast fashion” H&M type clothes in my closet from previous years of shopping when I was unaware of how it was manufactured. I totally understand that when you’re trying to focus on your work while also enjoying life that it’s fairly impossible to stay on top of which company is pulling what bull**** this week.



The vast majority of my viewers are recreational poker players. I’ve gotten a lot of questions about why I never play at the Venetian, and when I reply, many of them had no idea about Sheldon’s lobbying efforts in the online gaming space.



In my experience, when someone uses the phrase “virtue signaling,” I think it speaks more to deflecting from having to think about the **** they do in their own lives and they’d prefer that person just piped down. Like when someone says something misoginystic and someone else says that’s not cool... the first dude will call the guy a “white knight” which translates to “yes I’m a pussy who can’t figure out how to interact with the opposite sex and I’m lonely af but let’s forget about that because **** you for calling me out.



Can you believe Trooper isn’t wearing a helmet??


Good thoughts but it might have been unnecessary. If I remember correctly your reasoning behind not playing at Venetian was poker centric. It wasn’t about whether Sheldon was a human garbage or not. So hypocrisy argument was not logical at all.
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05-18-2018 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
Not a very good comparison since Addelson is a big supporter of Israel.

If you owned a B&M business would you support a competitive online version of your business that would take away your customers? Let's face it online poker is dead in the United States, with or without his support.
I'm not talking about poker if you didnt get that from my post. Adelson is a 30 year friend and supporter of Netanyahu. So it is a perfect comparison if you know anything about the ethnic cleansing and apartheid currently exercised by the current government of Israel, which is lead by Netanyahu.

So if you support that kind of activity, by all means, continue giving Sheldon your money.
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05-18-2018 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by michelle227
It is no different that the whole Chick-Fil-A nonsense...if I like the product, I will spend money there if it suits my needs on a dollar for service basis. I don't have to agree with a corporate entity's politics to do business with them. If snowflakes feel otherwise, then they are entitled to go sit in their safe space in mommy's basement...
I'd rather point have people like you post things like this in response to what I say. It makes my day.
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05-18-2018 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by thedude404
I'm not talking about poker if you didnt get that from my post. Adelson is a 30 year friend and supporter of Netanyahu. So it is a perfect comparison if you know anything about the ethnic cleansing and apartheid currently exercised by the current government of Israel, which is lead by Netanyahu.



So if you support that kind of activity, by all means, continue giving Sheldon your money.


I just read about it more and learned more about him. I will not go back. I got the IHG credit card so I could use the free annual night at Venetian but I’ll find another hotel.
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05-18-2018 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by surfinillini
Thought this thread hit rock bottom long ago.

But the anti-semitism itt now makes it teh nut low.

Go post in POL with all the other bigots.
you do realize that just because one doesnt agree with Adelson supporting someone of the ilk of Netanyahu doesnt make one an anti-semite, right? And just for the record, if one happens to be anti-Zionist doesnt mean that one is anti-semitic. I'm sure you are aware that there are Jews who are also anti-Zionist, right?

But for the record, I do not consider myself an anti-Zionist, nor am I anti-semitic. I am, however, anti-Netanyahu because he is a criminal and thus do not support Adelson giving him millions and millions of dollars. And thus do not give the Venetian a penny of my money so he can in turn send it over to Israel to continue the criminal activities of Netanyahu.

It must be so convenient to label people without having any actual knowledge of what in the hell you are talking about......

Mods----I in no way am trying to derail this thread but just trying to get people to educate themselves. I think I said my piece and will drop this going forward. That is, unless someone comes back with some type of asinine comment like accusing people of being anti-semitic or a "snowflake", then of course I will continue to defend my position with facts.

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05-18-2018 , 01:57 AM
Mr Bill Poker Vlog #24 is published! Poker is SUCH a frustrating game sometimes!

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05-18-2018 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by michelle227
It is no different that the whole Chick-Fil-A nonsense...if I like the product, I will spend money there if it suits my needs on a dollar for service basis. I don't have to agree with a corporate entity's politics to do business with them. If snowflakes feel otherwise, then they are entitled to go sit in their safe space in mommy's basement...
Also, how does me standing up for what I believe is right make me a "snowflake"? Wouldn't someone who backs down to pressure of the likes of people of your ilk make me a snowflake instead? Or are you saying that anyone that doesnt agree with your views is a snowflake? Or is it you are just repeating a word and have no idea of its "proper" context? Please enlighten all of us on your use of the term. LOL.

And no, I"m not going to sit in mommy's basement as much as you'd like to see that. I'll continue trying to educate people on the facts to further prevent people like you from influencing our society.

Did you see I already changed one person's mind about going to the Venetian??? So for me, it has been well worth the effort.

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05-18-2018 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Soner
I just read about it more and learned more about him. I will not go back. I got the IHG credit card so I could use the free annual night at Venetian but I’ll find another hotel.
Thanks for taking the time to educate yourself. Be sure to spread the word among any of your friends that are thinking about giving the Venetian any of their money......
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05-18-2018 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AndrewNeeme

Can you believe Trooper isn’t wearing a helmet??
I personally really can't. Literally one pebble away from a head injury.
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05-18-2018 , 03:39 AM
Venetian has seen a significant rise in business since they started their promotions. Seems like every time I hear locals/tourists talk about the promotions they are impressed by the promotions. Seems like the promotions are targeting people that either don’t know what Adelson has been doing (tourists), or don’t care (local regs that don’t care about online poker).

Venetian rarely runs anything higher than 2-5 with a $1k max so isn’t that smaller than what Andrew usually plays anyway? Usually the only other option there is 1-2 with the people trying to hit high hands or the bad beat jackpot. But I’m sure they will have 5-10 during the WSOP. I actually didn’t notice that Andrew wasn’t playing there, but maybe that’s because I prefer the Wynn, and because he has been playing outside of Vegas so much.

Looks like JohnnieVibes doesn’t play at Venetian either.
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05-18-2018 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AndrewNeeme
Can you believe Trooper isn’t wearing a helmet??
Exactly.

Let's not get distracted by all these other things and forget about the important stuff.
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05-18-2018 , 05:34 AM
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I find the Boski trolling to be very funny.
+1

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I like both of them, but if I was Trooper, I would have already challenged Boski to lace up the gloves with me, or to a Busquets/Alvarado type MMA tussle.

Do you even lift bro?

Correction: Do WE even lift bro?

At similar weights, I'd go with Trooper ftw with a possible compact power advantage over Boski.
Are you kidding me our Hero is afraid of his own shadow...remember the Homeless shell game guy he was basically running for his life. Or the time someone was following him he ran to the Cromwell security or how about Cali-bro.

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I don't think too many ppl are repping 225. Keep showing up, and I'm sure you'll break 150. Best of luck, man.

Jeez last week Height, this week lifting what's next week?


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Just got around to watching Pokerkraut's video from about a week ago wherein he states that people who don't like his or other Youtubers' videos, but keep coming back to watch more anyway, are all idiots. "Only idiots come back every single time for something they don't like." He also calls the thumbs down button the idiot button, and adds that if you push that button, it says you're an idiot. He says that it is analogous to going back everyday to eat at a restaurant and then telling them how bad the food is.

Interestingly, there's not one comment in this thread about his rant. I have no doubt whatsoever that if Trooper had said anything even mildly similar to that, this thread would have blown up and there would be pages and pages of comments from the usual malcontents condemning such a view.

And speaking of Trooper, Pokerkraut is no doubt referring to him (as well as several posters in this thread) when he closes his rant with the following quote:

"It's not only me; I don't have that many haters. But I know some other Youtubers; they have so many dislikes on the video every single time. Why do you go back and push that idiot button? It doesn't make any sense. It just says to your character, you are a total idiot."

I must say that I agree with pretty much everything he says.
I like PK he's funny and I agree with everything he says, except the only time i use the Idiot button is on our Hero everytime!

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Clubs is Kelly’s boyfriend.

I played in the westgate game last month. A buddy I was with wanted to play in the Thursday game. I played 1/2 while the other games were 1/3. Timmy’s table consists of pretty much the same players week in week out (clubs, Prince, PA, Cali bro lady and others.). Needless to say the 2 hrs I was there, the game was comparable to Excalibur/Ballys 1/2 game.

Yep the same 10 people every week it's like watching paint dry the only good thing is to make withdrawals.



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Haha nice

Video was hilariously bad.

The fanboys who keep encouraging trooper to gamble and keep doing what he is doing, do you want him to keep riding that board on the strip at night? Maybe you want him to ride faster, and wear even darker colors.....

GO GAMBLE. ****ing idiot. I feel sorry for that poor driver who is going to experience the inevitable.
Are you kidding me i thought that video was exceptional! Only issue was Clubs had the wrong person in the Film! What happens first he gets a huge fine or he hits and damages a car!

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I think Trooper is light years ahead of Clubs with regard to producing and editing. That video was terrible.

Is he really using this video to advertise a wedding video business? He's supposed to use an actual wedding video to showcase his skills as a wedding videographer not a skateboard video shot at night lol.
Wow are you serious Clubs is 10x better for sure.

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The "submit post" button on mitsi's computer is the REAL idiot button.

Where's that Ban Hammer?




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I give this post two "thumbs up"


I thought Trooper and Clubz did an excellent job on that video, i hope they do more collaborating in the future.

Tim I thought you couldn't post in here anymore?

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Originally Posted by AndrewNeeme
Thanks for watching the videos, I really appreciate it. Some thoughts:

I don’t think I was bashing the V. I even said it’s a great room, great dealers and staff, always has a decent number of games and one of the premiere recurring tournament events in the city. Also said I don’t blame anyone for playing there. We all have to grind. I just feel weird about having a poker vlog and giving free publicity to 85k people for a business owner that harms the industry that my vlog is based on.

Regarding Wynn, I thought about that before making the video. It was a huge disappointment to say the least. As far as I know he was removed relatively quickly from all operations of the company and sold all of his shares. He was living in a villa on property and has since moved out to Summerlin. If Adelson was similarly no longer a part of the company I’d likely be happy to show off the Venetian in a vlog.

Do I pretend that I’m spotless without fault? Hell no. I try to do what’s best but there’s a decent chance you’ll find some “fast fashion” H&M type clothes in my closet from previous years of shopping when I was unaware of how it was manufactured. I totally understand that when you’re trying to focus on your work while also enjoying life that it’s fairly impossible to stay on top of which company is pulling what bull**** this week.

The vast majority of my viewers are recreational poker players. I’ve gotten a lot of questions about why I never play at the Venetian, and when I reply, many of them had no idea about Sheldon’s lobbying efforts in the online gaming space.

In my experience, when someone uses the phrase “virtue signaling,” I think it speaks more to deflecting from having to think about the **** they do in their own lives and they’d prefer that person just piped down. Like when someone says something misoginystic and someone else says that’s not cool... the first dude will call the guy a “white knight” which translates to “yes I’m a pussy who can’t figure out how to interact with the opposite sex and I’m lonely af but let’s forget about that because **** you for calling me out.

Can you believe Trooper isn’t wearing a helmet??
AN just want to say I appreciate your videos and that Collage 4 months ago that was the you know what!!!

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Venetian has seen a significant rise in business since they started their promotions. Seems like every time I hear locals/tourists talk about the promotions they are impressed by the promotions. Seems like the promotions are targeting people that either don’t know what Adelson has been doing (tourists), or don’t care (local regs that don’t care about online poker).

Venetian rarely runs anything higher than 2-5 with a $1k max so isn’t that smaller than what Andrew usually plays anyway? Usually the only other option there is 1-2 with the people trying to hit high hands or the bad beat jackpot. But I’m sure they will have 5-10 during the WSOP. I actually didn’t notice that Andrew wasn’t playing there, but maybe that’s because I prefer the Wynn, and because he has been playing outside of Vegas so much.

Looks like JohnnieVibes doesn’t play at Venetian either.

I won't play at the V either especially since he got Online poker banned!! Plus if you're a promo whore there's way better places to go IE Caesers, Mirage. (Orleans if you don't mind putting up with the problems!)
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05-18-2018 , 05:48 AM
Trooper Thursday could barely fill a table today. Trooper folded most hands except one against a super tight guy where he paid him off on the river for basically his entire stack. Then he folded for several hours until he left around 8.

Game was super good though. About 9k on the table and one guy was sitting with a 2.5k stack. I left around 2am and it was still going.

Will it last until the end of the summer?
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05-18-2018 , 07:41 AM
People are criticizing PK for buying in short to a 2-5 game. I don’t see what’s wrong with it and he isn’t a 2-5 pro. The comments about big stacks trying to bully him are way off IMO.
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05-18-2018 , 08:27 AM
What happened to the moderator?
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05-18-2018 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
Pretty big near miss by Vibes. Ouch.
Yeah that was a real bad beat, probably the worst one I've ever heard of. When I first heard about it I thought they missed like people usually do, they need this card or that card on the river to win. But in his case, he would have won with any card but a king. He basically got 4 outed to lose his 60K share that would have went right into his pocket.

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Can you believe Trooper isn’t wearing a helmet??
Andrew, a helmet is good protection in case he falls of his board but if a car, truck or bus pulls out in front of him and hits him because he's hard to see (like motorcycles are), a helmet alone isn't going to save his life. He really needs to chill out with that board.

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05-18-2018 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
People are criticizing PK for buying in short to a 2-5 game. I don’t see what’s wrong with it and he isn’t a 2-5 pro. The comments about big stacks trying to bully him are way off IMO.
Even if true that's great for PK. Then he can call light...
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05-18-2018 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
People are criticizing PK for buying in short to a 2-5 game. I don’t see what’s wrong with it and he isn’t a 2-5 pro. The comments about big stacks trying to bully him are way off IMO.
Never mind. I didn’t realize how old that video was.

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05-18-2018 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LVNC1234
+1
Jeez last week Height, this week lifting what's next week?
Not sure what you're referring to, LVNC.
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05-18-2018 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
People are criticizing PK for buying in short to a 2-5 game. I don’t see what’s wrong with it and he isn’t a 2-5 pro. The comments about big stacks trying to bully him are way off IMO.
Doesn't PK buy in short for 1/2 as well?

Can't see what the problem is... His money, so he can do what he likes.
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05-18-2018 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by marky147
Doesn't PK buy in short for 1/2 as well?

Can't see what the problem is... His money, so he can do what he likes.
He does, and I'm guessing it works for him as he seems happy playing that way.

It's such an awkward stack size though, $120.
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05-18-2018 , 02:36 PM
Plikity take your politics bs elsewhere thanks.
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05-18-2018 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
Yeah that was a real bad beat, probably the worst one I've ever heard of. When I first heard about it I thought they missed like people usually do, they need this card or that card on the river to win. But in his case, he would have won with any card but a king. He basically got 4 outed to lose his 60K share that would have went right into his pocket.
According to Commerce's website, Johnnie's type of BBJ(AAATT or better beaten) is a 75k total jackpot, so he actually would've gotten about 45k. The 100k Super BBJ requires quads over quads. But yeah, he got super close.
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Andrew, a helmet is good protection in case he falls of his board but if a car, truck or bus pulls out in front of him and hits him because he's hard to see (like motorcycles are), a helmet alone isn't going to save his life. He really needs to chill out with that board.
Seriously. Or he could end up paralyzed from a collision. I guess he doesn't realize how stupid he'd feel then.
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05-18-2018 , 03:33 PM
i mean, it’s only because CA has weird rules for the BBJ. at Maryland Live, there’s a mini (10%) jackpot for AAATT+ beaten but you can’t have a PP on a AAA board unless you have quads
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