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Old 12-28-2016, 01:57 PM   #2576
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Yea Trooper is a genius, but you never hear about the other 9 out of 10 times he makes these calls and is wrong, that cause his win rate to be $1/hr.
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Old 12-28-2016, 04:32 PM   #2577
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And people were saying Trooper was playing scared to try to protect his winrate. What a brave call by the trooper!
TBC gives away a lot of intel in his blog. Trooper could have be aware that he has a tendency to spaz out.
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Old 12-28-2016, 05:05 PM   #2578
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This year since the world series I have been in LA twice a month.

I will definitely be making a video about my poker story, past and present with those details.

There are 4 of us from the Seattle area that fly/drive down to LA and grind the limit holdem games. I think I am the 3rd biggest winner of the group though.
Is 2 big bets/HR standard for a winning limit player? Seems lucrative.
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:19 PM   #2579
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it's been said plenty of times, but Kraut is such a likeable dude.
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:46 PM   #2580
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so confused where troop has da' $ to be considering moving up in stakes. +should probably have a winning foundation at the lower stakes.

*dont get me wrong I got the popcorn ready and am pumped
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Old 12-28-2016, 07:05 PM   #2581
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so confused where troop has da' $ to be considering moving up in stakes. +should probably have a winning foundation at the lower stakes.

*dont get me wrong I got the popcorn ready and am pumped
I doubt the fella is going to be moving up to 2/5 anytime soon, but if he does I can't wait to check-raise him out of his seat at Bellagio. I doubt TheTrooper even has 10 buy-ins at 2/5 to play with. He most likely only has a few thousand to play 1/2. Which is barely enough as it is. TheTrooper always says he's going to do something but then never does it. Like the gym. He's gone twice in 2 months. But he never stops reminding us he went several days ago.
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Old 12-28-2016, 07:39 PM   #2582
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LMAO @ the ending of that vlog. Trooper is so delusional. He thinks that he, a breakeven player, is an expert on winrates and variance. He's deluding himself into somehow believing that winning players can have a 2000+ hr breakeven stretch at live 1/2. No Trooper. If you choose not to study or improve, don't be surprised that you are a breakeven player in games where people are just giving away money.

Moving up in stakes should be interesting. Hopefully he'll move up in level each time he wins ala Andrew Neeme (or dgiharris's thread). The Trooper playing 5/T+ would be super epic.
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Old 12-28-2016, 07:54 PM   #2583
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Priestly in Vegas

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Old 12-28-2016, 08:16 PM   #2584
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It looks like PokerKraut went fishing for Christmas

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Old 12-28-2016, 08:39 PM   #2585
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I lost all respect for Andrew when he spewed the $70/hr win rate. He's a lair or delusional and I don't support either.
easy brah, I wish Andrew would recap ALL sessions for accuracy BUT there are 2-5 players hitting those numbers, I know some that are def not exaggerating (more like $50/hr 2-5 though)...mine is $13/hr or something 2-5 hahahaha $1....$3....$13
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:43 PM   #2586
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Actually yeah a winning player could have a break even stretch over 2k hours. I lost all respect for Andrew when he spewed the $70/hr win rate. He's a lair or delusional and I don't support either.
Hey Troop, hows it going? I agree that Andrew exaggerates a bit in his win rate, but I still think he is a winning player.

On another matter, I don't think you should attempt to move up in stakes. It would be the beginning of the end for you. You don't have the bankroll nor the temperament to handle the swings of that game.

btw, another cute groupie in the video today except this time it seemed like she didn't have her boyfriend/husband there. Did you bang her?
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:48 PM   #2587
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Yea Trooper is a genius, but you never hear about the other 9 out of 10 times he makes these calls and is wrong, that cause his win rate to be $1/hr.
Trooper puts a lot of emphasis on being tricky (and he does it again in that video), and seems to think that everyone is trying to trick him too.

I did criticize his table talk a little bit but one thing I didn't mention is the fishier players could react to it differently than I do so maybe it's not as bad as I thought. Not sure what TBC thought.

I wonder how many fans of the vlog tell him in person to move up to 2/5. It's awful advice that people keep giving him on Youtube. If he wants to play a bigger game play 1/3 at the Wynn with the $500 max buy-in. It's softer than 2/5 and if you can't beat that you have no shot at 2/5.

If he is blaming variance for his results I wonder what he thinks his winrate in the long run would be.
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:57 PM   #2588
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Where exactly does this come from ???

Even with quitting when up money with numerous days left in a month, this seems hard to believe !
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Any long term grinders out there have an opinion on this quote ?
1 losing month in 8 years sounds like bs to me. Not sure where he heard that. Did Pokerkraut actually say that?

I remember a video with Pokerkraut leaving the Wynn because he said the players knew exactly what they were doing, it wasn't the game for him and he wanted to play against stupid players who would call him down with bottom pair. I assumed he was talking about the 1/3 game at the Wynn which IMO is a great game. It can be a little tougher than the 1/2 games around town but the game is significantly bigger which more than makes up for that. It usually just feels like another 1/3 game except it has much bigger stacks.

I got the impression that poker was kind of just a hobby for him that he made a little money from by playing in really easy games.
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:59 PM   #2589
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Hopefully he knows one can always work on his game, I know he has not admitted that in a Vlog- but hopefully Tim Watts the guy knows he needs to invest in improving his game for Troopers sake
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:07 PM   #2590
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I would still work with Troop on his game if he had any desire, I'm not a great player but am great at beating llsnl and saw multiple areas he could fix/leaks he could plug in just our last session together...the kind of things that can make the difference between profitable and break even.
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:13 PM   #2591
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Hopefully he knows one can always work on his game, I know he has not admitted that in a Vlog- but hopefully Tim Watts the guy knows he needs to invest in improving his game for Troopers sake
He is not against the idea of working on his game but in the latest video there was a clear implication that variance explains his results more than anything else since he came to Vegas. In other words he seems to think the most important thing for him is not improving, but just getting luckier.

Also, even though he isn't opposed to the idea of working on his game, he doesn't seem to be a big fan of a lot of the ways that people try to improve and he isn't really a person that will approach studying the way a nerd would. And he doesn't seem to have enough urgency when it comes to trying to improve.

Some people will actually be offended by posts that suggest they need to work on their game. They might react by having thoughts like "What you think my game isn't good enough?" Not saying he reacts that way but I am saying you shouldn't be surprised if someone gets offended when you talk about them needing to improve.

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Old 12-28-2016, 09:16 PM   #2592
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Saw that Tim deleted comments on this vlog. Someone posted that he should consider offering TheTrooper Poker Coaching, to which someone replied, hes made less than 2k this year including promo money, if anything he should be seeking coaching.

Both comments were deleted.
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:20 PM   #2593
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If you start with the assumption that you are good at poker and are really resistant to changing that assumption, then suddenly there isn't as much urgency to improve and it becomes much easier to believe any excuses when the results don't go your way.
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:20 PM   #2594
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Yea, I was going to comment on that one and decided not to. lol
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:29 PM   #2595
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Actually yeah a winning player could have a break even stretch over 2k hours.
Yeah, if they don't have a significant edge...aka what i consider a breakeven player like Trooper. If you have a significant edge you are rarely going to have a losing month. How in the hell are you going to have a break even year if you only have 1 losing month a year?

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I lost all respect for Andrew when he spewed the $70/hr win rate. He's a lair or delusional and I don't support either.
I have no clue about the attainable winrates in Vegas 2/5. Certainly in other 2/5 games in the country winrates of greater than $70 are attainable. I would assume that is not the case in Vegas though. Probably more like $50 or $60.

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Hopefully he knows one can always work on his game, I know he has not admitted that in a Vlog- but hopefully Tim Watts the guy knows he needs to invest in improving his game for Troopers sake
He doesn't know that and he will not work on his game.

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I got the impression that poker was kind of just a hobby for him that he made a little money from by playing in really easy games.
PokerKraut has actually supported himself off poker winnings in the past, unlike Trooper.

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Trooper probably has some major leaks but at the 1/2 level of play that shouldnt prevent him from having a positive win rate, only increase the swings.
Apparently you don't understand how it works. When you have leaks, it impacts your bottom line.

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I wonder how many fans of the vlog tell him in person to move up to 2/5. It's awful advice that people keep giving him on Youtube. If he wants to play a bigger game play 1/3 at the Wynn with the $500 max buy-in. It's softer than 2/5 and if you can't beat that you have no shot at 2/5.
Does it really matter? He can't beat any level for a living, so he might as well just go and have some fun.

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.mine is $13/hr or something 2-5 hahahaha $1....$3....$13
Sounds a bit inflated to me.
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:53 PM   #2596
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Trooper puts a lot of emphasis on being tricky (and he does it again in that video), and seems to think that everyone is trying to trick him too.

I did criticize his table talk a little bit but one thing I didn't mention is the fishier players could react to it differently than I do so maybe it's not as bad as I thought. Not sure what TBC thought.

I wonder how many fans of the vlog tell him in person to move up to 2/5. It's awful advice that people keep giving him on Youtube. If he wants to play a bigger game play 1/3 at the Wynn with the $500 max buy-in. It's softer than 2/5 and if you can't beat that you have no shot at 2/5.

If he is blaming variance for his results I wonder what he thinks his winrate in the long run would be.

If he really thinks $35/h can become his average winrate, how is it possible he also thinks a 2000 hours breakeven stretch is possible because of variance!
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:03 PM   #2597
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Sounds a bit inflated to me.
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:04 PM   #2598
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If he really thinks $35/h can become his average winrate, how is it possible he also thinks a 2000 hours breakeven stretch is possible because of variance!
its only variance when you lose brah...seriously I used to do this/think this like a decade ago
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:18 PM   #2599
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Using a Confidence Interval Calculator if Trooper was at $1/hr on 2000 hours with a $300/hr STD(which is pretty high for 1/2nl but Troopers might be higher), then there is 95% confidence his true win rate is between -12.15/hr and 14.15/hr.

Just to show what more normal numbers might look. $15/hr on 2000 hours with 200/hr STD is 95% between 6.22 and 23.77/hr.
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:20 PM   #2600
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Oh Frooper. Delusional as they come.

There are only a few reasons for wanting to move up in stakes in his situation:

1. He's being backed again by some random.

2. He's come into some $$$ recently.

3. He's starting a job soon.

4. He's bored of the grind and has decided to go the route of risk/ruin and just say **** it.

For someone who is up less than $2,000 for the entire year out of 200+ sessions, hasn't worked on his game away from the table, and has pretty much been on the verge of going broke for quite some time, it's unfathomable that he'd want to move up in stakes.

Neither here nor there, I wish him luck in his endeavor. I don't want to see Troop go broke, rather just turn his life around. If he spent the 2,000 hours he wasted at the poker table actually working a job and building a roll he might have 15k+ and ready to play 2-5NL with 30 buy ins. But I still don't understand how some folks say the vlog is giving him income enough to support his bills plus build a roll. He's making $400-500/month max via youtube.

Also Andrew has nearly 10k more subs than Trooper and has been vlogging what...6 months and vlogs once/week.

Nevertheless, Trooper continues churning out weak/repetitive content and then apparently deletes comments haha.

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