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06-14-2021 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
+1. Zero interest in watching online poker.

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+1000. Online poker is boring and unrealistic. Nnd not fun.
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06-14-2021 , 02:43 PM
I'm beginning to think Brad and Andrew's strategy of betting heavy when only strong on one board in double board bomb pits. They get smoked so often

Also...90 bucks for a hoodie...ouch

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06-14-2021 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Outoftime44444
Regarding poker vlogs that talk strategy, I feel Brad Owen's vlogs are misleading in making poker appear too easy. He makes $5-$10 look so easy. Just do some simple ABC poker with some surface level exploitative plays and you can clean up $5-$10 at bellagio. "I got pocket jiggity's and cant fold these... this guy has been staring at me weird.... i'll call down this bet, I can't fold. Busted straight draw I win $3000 pot."
That's why he has astronomical view numbers. As Dream Crusher said, (sorry Donk!) the majority of people watching poker vlogs are people with little real experience in poker and eat this stuff up.
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06-14-2021 , 03:08 PM
Rampages last hand in the latest vid -- he is just a calling station with bad calls on turn and river. I'm wondering if he is even a winning cash game player
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06-14-2021 , 03:49 PM
Maybe donk can take this time off to research who owns that bridge?
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06-14-2021 , 04:13 PM
The Bridge on the river Kwai?
A bridge too far?
Bridge of spies?
Bridge under troubled water?
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06-14-2021 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by punkass
I'm beginning to think Brad and Andrew's strategy of betting heavy when only strong on one board in double board bomb pits. They get smoked so often

Also...90 bucks for a hoodie...ouch
Brad has t-shirts for 25 and 28 but hoodies are 90

Neeme has shirts for 34 and hoodies for 74 and hats for 30

Trooper has hoodies for only 45 but shirts are 30 and hats are 30-35

Also, Trooper has wisely reduced the number of shirts available on the site. He used to offer dozens of different shirts (I remember his shirt for every state) but now wised up to limit his offerings to not overwhelm people.

Brad's offerings are very limited. I'm surprised he doesn't have any hats as that seems to be a big thing for poker players. I guess a lot of balding middle ages men play poker

So if you are in the market for hoodies, get them cheap with Trooper (although he mentions that sizing is small and I wonder if that's just based on him being pudgy...hmmm) and get your t-shirts from Brad at under 30 bucks a pop.
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06-14-2021 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
That's why he has astronomical view numbers. As Dream Crusher said, (sorry Donk!) the majority of people watching poker vlogs are people with little real experience in poker and eat this stuff up.
It's also true that being good at that sort of stuff is THE single most valuable skill in live poker. Improving the your assessments of how likely villain is to be bluffing on the river is worth multiple BB/h at decent stack depths for every percentage point you improve from the naive assessment provided by GTO bluff frequency. If you can manage to be "mostly right" you will just print money if the rest of your game is at least passable.

So in some sense there doesn't have to be more to it than that.
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06-14-2021 , 08:22 PM
Recently you peeps where giving details of OMC’s back story. Is there a certain video where he gets into this? I’d like to hear it.
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06-14-2021 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Da_Nit
Recently you peeps where giving details of OMC’s back story. Is there a certain video where he gets into this? I’d like to hear it.
Yeah, I posted that specific vlog in this thread a couple of weeks ago. Here it is again.

This is the vlog in which he briefly touches on what he's done in the past and his plans for vlogging about it in 2021. It starts at 11:05.

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06-14-2021 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DC2LV
Yeah, I posted that specific vlog in this thread a couple of weeks ago. Here it is again.

This is the vlog in which he briefly touches on what he's done in the past and his plans for vlogging about it in 2021. It starts at 11:05.

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Thanks! I guess thanks again.
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06-14-2021 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Da_Nit
Recently you peeps where giving details of OMC’s back story. Is there a certain video where he gets into this? I’d like to hear it.
This one gives a good outline of his life. More details coming in future episodes.

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06-14-2021 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SplawnDarts
It's also true that being good at that sort of stuff is THE single most valuable skill in live poker. Improving the your assessments of how likely villain is to be bluffing on the river is worth multiple BB/h at decent stack depths for every percentage point you improve from the naive assessment provided by GTO bluff frequency. If you can manage to be "mostly right" you will just print money if the rest of your game is at least passable.

So in some sense there doesn't have to be more to it than that.
Some people think table selection is more important.

I'd rather play with people who aren't capable of bluffing rivers, or bluffing at all.
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06-14-2021 , 10:08 PM
I consider patience to be the most important skill in live poker.
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06-14-2021 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Man Coffee
This one gives a good outline of his life. More details coming in future episodes.


Very cool really look forward to those up coming videos.
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06-14-2021 , 10:26 PM
I'd like to give my opinion and pretend I knew what the most important skill in poker is. But if I knew that, I'd probably be playing poker for a living and not as a weekend warrior so to speak. But I do know that I prefer to play at a more passive table than an aggressive one. I've made it a new years resolution of sorts that I'll table change more this year as opposed to the past where I'd stubbornly try to tough it out at a tough table where you have guys raising every hand.
I want to be the one raising most hands gosh darn it.

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06-14-2021 , 11:09 PM
The ancient Greek philosopher Heraclitus said that to have an "even mind" is the highest virtue in life. If so, then the most important skill in poker is the ability to have an even mind.

Now I know what you're saying: "What is the most important poker skill in terms of the play of the game in a live setting?"

Assuming one already has a good theoretical understanding of the fundamentals (spr, implied odds, position, pot control, etc.), the number one skill would have to be what Brunson said a long time ago: understanding and reading people.
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06-14-2021 , 11:23 PM
Latest Trooper Results::


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235


2021: +4,627

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06-14-2021 , 11:25 PM
Trooper having a broccoli epiphany in his latest vlog...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHX9awTldi4

Could be a turning point in his health life.
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06-14-2021 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mrducks
It's moments like this that pretty much discredit all of his restaurant reviews.

Also, that he only eats fast food, raves about how amazing Taco Bell of all places is on the strip, eats nothing beyond burgers and pizza, and chugs Starbucks coffee like it's the nectar of the gods.

Seriously, almost well done for a Wagyu burger? And then the burger came out looking like a hockey puck. What do you expect? Idiot.
All of his food reviews are "That was really good/bad". Zero description of flavors, textures, etc. always makes me laugh when i hear his try to describe a new food, hilariously absent of information
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06-15-2021 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by meshanti
Some people think table selection is more important.

I'd rather play with people who aren't capable of bluffing rivers, or bluffing at all.
First off, most fish over-estimate the importance of bluffing rather than underestimate it. That doesn't mean their rates are going be close to right or the spots well chosen, but the bluff is not some big secret known only to a few.

Second, if you table select for very weak opposition, you will find yourself at 1/2 making no money.
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06-15-2021 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Steer
The ancient Greek philosopher Heraclitus said that to have an "even mind" is the highest virtue in life. If so, then the most important skill in poker is the ability to have an even mind.

Now I know what you're saying: "What is the most important poker skill in terms of the play of the game in a live setting?"

Assuming one already has a good theoretical understanding of the fundamentals (spr, implied odds, position, pot control, etc.), the number one skill would have to be what Brunson said a long time ago: understanding and reading people.
And of course the purpose of reading people is so you can make more accurate than GTO assessments as to whether they're bluffing. Brunson might not have put it that way, but that's why you care to get inside someone's head. And the most important place to have those assessments be right is where the biggest bets go in - the river if we're talking moderate+ stack NL. There are other assessments that most definitely have value, but being mostly right on the river is by far the most valuable.
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06-15-2021 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
The Bridge on the river Kwai?
A bridge too far?
Bridge of spies?
Bridge under troubled water?
The one "between ceasers and belligo there"
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1.../#post57157194
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06-15-2021 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
The one "between ceasers and belligo there"
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1.../#post57157194

Was the Bridges Of Madison County.
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06-15-2021 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SplawnDarts
And of course the purpose of reading people is so you can make more accurate than GTO assessments as to whether they're bluffing. Brunson might not have put it that way, but that's why you care to get inside someone's head. And the most important place to have those assessments be right is where the biggest bets go in - the river if we're talking moderate+ stack NL. There are other assessments that most definitely have value, but being mostly right on the river is by far the most valuable.
Right...get to the end of a hand and realizing that you're eff'ed is best!
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