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02-21-2019 , 08:26 PM
Apparently some of you have never cashed a tournament - you don’t just bust and head home and then get a wire. At the WSOP you go to a special room and get in line and take the cash/check/wire whatever. You have to actively cash out.
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02-21-2019 , 08:35 PM
I understand how it works, I usually take cash, at WSOP they pay in chips, or they used to anyway. I have never had money wired to my bank, for a tournament so I know nothing about that.

I still don't understand what he meant by, they paid him again months later. How exactly?
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02-21-2019 , 09:03 PM
Can't ban the Boski!
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02-21-2019 , 09:29 PM
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I understand how it works, I usually take cash, at WSOP they pay in chips, or they used to anyway. I have never had money wired to my bank, for a tournament so I know nothing about that.

I still don't understand what he meant by, they paid him again months later. How exactly?
Stop the video at 2:47 - he was manually paid on 7-1 and again on 7-14 - no mystery to it. Card wasn’t taken the first time and was reused.
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02-21-2019 , 09:40 PM
Well it shouldn't be hard for Boski to explain to us in more detail how he got paid twice and how he didn't notice an extra $5k in his bankroll
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02-21-2019 , 09:45 PM
No wonder the moustache comes and goes. Lol.

Thanks for the entertainment Boski!
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02-21-2019 , 09:47 PM
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Well it shouldn't be hard for Boski to explain to us in more detail how he got paid twice and how he didn't notice an extra $5k in his bankroll
Life's a Gamble. Go Gamble.
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02-22-2019 , 01:11 AM
When you cash a WSOP event, a dealer walks you over to another employee that has a computer and they take your ID and input what MTT you cashed in and what place you got. They also give you a payout card that you can keep as a souvenir or give to the person at the payout cage. You don't need possession of your payout card to get paid since they already have all your info. You just need a passport or drivers license.

Historically, when I cash events at the WSOP, I don't get paid out right away for various reasons. There may already be a long line from all the recent min cashers, or I might just need to register another event.

At the end of every WSOP, I go to the cage to get a printout of all of my buy ins and cashes for tax purposes and to claim any unpaid cashes. AFAIK, if you don't claim them, WSOP keeps them. They said I didn't get paid for my tag team cash, so I got paid cash. I didn't think it was possible for the computer system to pay me twice for the same cash.
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02-22-2019 , 01:31 AM
So you recall being paid in cash the second time. How did they pay you the first time? Cash or bank transfer?

Because if I was paid in cash that (second) time, and thought, well their computers dont screw it up, I still would have logged into my bank account to double check when home or on the way out etc...
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02-22-2019 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mitsi
So you recall being paid in cash the second time. How did they pay you the first time? Cash or bank transfer?

Because if I was paid in cash that (second) time, and thought, well their computers dont screw it up, I still would have logged into my bank account to double check when home or on the way out etc...
So you are basically saying that if a multi billion dollar company might have made a mistake in your favour, you are obliged to immediatelly check your bank account to correct THEIR mistake to your very own disadvantage? And by not doing so that is morally reprehensible? I must be living in a parallel universe these days.
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02-22-2019 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Zero32
So you are basically saying that if a multi billion dollar company might have made a mistake in your favour, you are obliged to immediatelly check your bank account to correct THEIR mistake to your very own disadvantage? .
The worth of the company is irrelevant if we are talking morals.

Also its not your disadvantage. The money is not yours.... The only disadvantage would be the time spent checking your account, but it looks as though they are willing to pay out with vouchers for the hassle.

If he didnt know AT ALL, then that is a different story.
I just dont think anyone like Boski being a professional Poker player is that careless about his outgoings and incoming buyins and winnings.
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02-22-2019 , 02:11 AM
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The worth of the company is irrelevant if we are talking morals.
What an absurd statement. You think that not returning grandmas purse is the same as not immediatelly checking if a billion dollar company made a mistake is irrelevant.
But i guess the pitchforks want action. After all he paid back the money, it isnt like he was tricking the casino intentionally which is a whole different story. My 2 cents.

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02-22-2019 , 02:41 AM
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What an absurd statement. You think that not returning grandmas purse is the same as not immediatelly checking if a billion dollar company made a mistake is irrelevant.
I was saying it shouldn't matter if you received funds unintentionally from a rich large company or a small company making ends meet.

the money is not yours, and you should return it.

where do you get pitchforks from?

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02-22-2019 , 03:01 AM
Who is the OG of the meetup game? Trooper? Neeme? Somebody else?
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02-22-2019 , 08:24 AM
Watched Ryan Depaulo first Vlog last night... Binged watched his first 10.... Instantly my new favourite Vlogger
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02-22-2019 , 08:40 AM
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So you are basically saying that if a multi billion dollar company might have made a mistake in your favour, you are obliged to immediatelly check your bank account to correct THEIR mistake to your very own disadvantage? And by not doing so that is morally reprehensible? I must be living in a parallel universe these days.
Same universe as before, bro

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02-22-2019 , 09:31 AM
Morally it is your duty to try to keep the money from a casino. They prey on the weak to make money. This isn't a company that just sells a product. I'm with boski, try to freeroll them if theirs error. I'm not advocsting trying to steal from a casino, but it's not my responsibility if they **** up. I've been payed when I shouldn't have at ultimate texas holdem. Not my problem the casino doesn't train their employees better. The moral thing to do is take the incorrect payout.

I'm not saying casinos and gambling should be illegal, but they deserve no sympathy and should not be treated like other companies when it comes to morals.
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02-22-2019 , 09:46 AM
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Morally it is your duty to try to keep the money from a casino. They prey on the weak to make money. This isn't a company that just sells a product. I'm with boski, try to freeroll them if theirs error. I'm not advocsting trying to steal from a casino, but it's not my responsibility if they **** up. I've been payed when I shouldn't have at ultimate texas holdem. Not my problem the casino doesn't train their employees better. The moral thing to do is take the incorrect payout.

I'm not saying casinos and gambling should be illegal, but they deserve no sympathy and should not be treated like other companies when it comes to morals.
Agree with what you said, but if they ask for their overpayment back what would you do?

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02-22-2019 , 10:01 AM
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Agree with what you said, but if they ask for their overpayment back what would you do?

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If they errored, and I know they did. I personally would pay it back. Based on that I still would want to play future tournaments. I do believe it's also within their right to try to fix their error.

Make no mistake, after they found the error, and the casino tries to fix it, whether you give it back or not is not a question of morals. It's a simple decision each individual makes. Is 5k worth being banned from x casinos. Nothing more, nothing less.

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02-22-2019 , 10:35 AM
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So you are basically saying that if a multi billion dollar company might have made a mistake in your favour, you are obliged to immediatelly check your bank account to correct THEIR mistake to your very own disadvantage? And by not doing so that is morally reprehensible? I must be living in a parallel universe these days.
No, just a less ethical one.


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If they errored, and I know they did. I personally would pay it back. Based on that I still would want to play future tournaments. I do believe it's also within their right to try to fix their error.

Make no mistake, after they found the error, and the casino tries to fix it, whether you give it back or not is not a question of morals. It's a simple decision each individual makes. Is 5k worth being banned from x casinos. Nothing more, nothing less.
It most certainly is. And it has nothing to do with whether one would be banned or suffer any other punishment. If you inadvertently received funds you were not entitled to, the morally right thing to do is to return it. Period. End of sentence.
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02-22-2019 , 11:05 AM
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No, just a less ethical one.




It most certainly is. And it has nothing to do with whether one would be banned or suffer any other punishment. If you inadvertently received funds you were not entitled to, the morally right thing to do is to return it. Period. End of sentence.
Wrong. End of discussion. Period. Casino Isn't moral for giving un true odds.
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02-22-2019 , 11:24 AM
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Wrong. End of discussion. Period. Casino Isn't moral for giving un true odds.

A casino isn't a charity. They aren't obliged to give anyone fair odds. Their games are for the most part transparent and the house edge is calculable and obtainable on dozens of websites.

Whether you enter into a transaction where the house has an edge is entirely a consensual agreement between two parties. The casinos aren't misleading anyone or pulling some sort of bait-and-switch - I think it's fair to say it's common knowledge that games are unbeatable long-term and yet millions of people still decide they want to play every year. There's nothing immoral in what they're doing.

Further, to say that it's moral to take a casino overpay is absurd. Sure, if I got a casino overpay, I probably wouldn't pay it back unless forced to, but to claim that you're taking the moral high ground by doing so is comical. You knowingly took money that you know you were not entitled to. How can you possibly justify that as moral? C'mon.
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02-22-2019 , 11:43 AM
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Wrong. End of discussion. Period. Casino Isn't moral for giving un true odds.
They offer 6/5 on BJ, total scum bags.
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02-22-2019 , 11:49 AM
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Wrong. End of discussion. Period. Casino Isn't moral for giving un true odds.
And forcing you to play?

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02-22-2019 , 12:06 PM
Of course no one is forcing someone to play. But the casinos job is to literally **** you out of your money. Fine free country, well all know the odds right. But it's their job to insure proper pay outs, and feel no remorse when they **** up that task. Is it moral for a cigarette company to profit off of known addiction? Same with a casino profiting off of addiction. Do they have a right to operate? Sure, gambling and smoking should be a person's choice. But to say it's moral to give money back to a company that they themselves ****ed up on, when all they do is profit off of ****ing people over....no thanks.
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