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01-13-2018 , 12:19 PM
IMO Trooper comes off as a total ******* in this video. Just shut your mouth and let security handle it.
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01-13-2018 , 12:43 PM
Just got done watching this fiasco.

Even though Trooper was in the right on this one he clearly needs to learn how to talk to people. He was insulting and talked down to this guy. Yes it's trooper Thursday (whatever that is) but he could have easily tried to accommodate this person but he took his usual Holier than thou stance.

Trooper should be a little more careful who he denigrates in public because if you catch the wrong guy it's over. I mean Trooper would have no chance against that guy if he waited for him in the parking lot.

Reality check Trooper, you need to take stock of yourself. You are not Phil Hellmuth. Having a youtube channel and playing low stakes at the Westgate doesn't make you something. Where you can talk to people like that or ask them to rack up and leave in that manner. That was a disgrace.

Westgate should revisit their training too. That was bad. If I was poker or casino manager I would be sitting down with all employees involved.
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01-13-2018 , 12:45 PM
Floor should have just said, if you're not happy with being filmed, you'll have to leave.

'What does this have to do with my, my freedom, bro'

Was never going to end well once the guy nicked his camera, lol.

Comedy really, and some funny one liners from 'Cali'.

Drunk dude was right - 'If you wanna leave, leave. If you don't want to leave, then stay'
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01-13-2018 , 12:49 PM
Seems quite silly to end up in a game that is being filmed, if you don't want to be filmed.

Agree that it's probably not wise to aggravate people you don't know, when they're obviously becoming agitated. Different world nowadays, and people seem to overreact to the smallest things.
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01-13-2018 , 01:02 PM
I would take down that video if I was Trooper. He doesn't know who he's dealing with. And if he sees he's on youtube -- that could set him off. He lost his **** at the table -- imagine how mad he'll get when he sees it on the tube.

That was a case of two douchebag/*******s colliding. I would pick the black guy with a 1st round TKO.

The guy sitting next to Trooper didn't help matters. He should shut up. He barely looks strong enough to lift his chips off the table.
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01-13-2018 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenophon
I felt the same way. He plays pretty well, and just got smacked by variance (and massive -EV) that session.
It was bound to happen the way he was running, but yikes some of those beats made online suckouts seem tame by comparison.
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01-13-2018 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by marky147
Seems quite silly to end up in a game that is being filmed, if you don't want to be filmed.

Agree that it's probably not wise to aggravate people you don't know, when they're obviously becoming agitated. Different world nowadays, and people seem to overreact to the smallest things.
yeah, doesn't the Westgate have big signs as you walk into the poker room stating that the games are being filmed and that you're consenting to that when you participate in the game?
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01-13-2018 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sucio44
I would take down that video if I was Trooper. He doesn't know who he's dealing with. And if he sees he's on youtube -- that could set him off. He lost his **** at the table -- imagine how mad he'll get when he sees it on the tube.
There is a dilemma for Trooper:

1. He had the right to create that video and should stand by his right to create and then publish that video.

2. Based on the other guy's behavior, Trooper could be putting himself in harm's way by putting on that video. Not worth it given the ROI of that one video.

Solution: Don't take down the video. Edit it instead by covering the guy's face with some kinda Smiley or graphic. Suggestion: Donald Trump's face.
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01-13-2018 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
There is a dilemma for Trooper:

1. He had the right to create that video and should stand by his right to create and then publish that video.

2. Based on the other guy's behavior, Trooper could be putting himself in harm's way by putting on that video. Not worth it given the ROI of that one video.

Solution: Don't take down the video. Edit it instead by covering the guy's face with some kinda Smiley or graphic. Suggestion: Donald Trump's face.
Oops. Covering that guy's face with Donald's could be misinterpreted as racist. Better stick to a smiley then. Like...
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01-13-2018 , 02:32 PM
Was he under the influence of Nitro coffee which woke up his angry hormones? Also, I noticed he kept rubbing his right chest with the left hand while talking to the guy, sign of nervousness?
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01-13-2018 , 02:39 PM
Having watched the video, I'm 90%+ with Trooper on this.

However...

From 9:40 on the vid, when he already had the camera back and floor was talking to other dude, Trooper needed to bite his tongue

From 12:30 on the vid, when security have arrived, Trooper needed to bite his tongue, shut his mouth, and grit the rest of his teeth

I like Trooper and his vids, and I know a lot of it is just an act for the cameras, but he totally lacks the diplomacy skills to de-escalate a situation, and seriously needs to realise when to shut up. By the time he has the self-awareness to realise this as an issue, it'll be too late.
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01-13-2018 , 02:47 PM
Troop is in the right here, but it wasn't smart of him to aggravate a stranger. You never know how vengeful a stranger acting a fool can be. When Troop said he was done, he should've really been done.
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01-13-2018 , 03:34 PM
Here comes a law suit against troop, YouTube, and the casino for violation of rights and racism?
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01-13-2018 , 03:37 PM
Problem with trooper biting his tongue, is that he knows that he has been talking all tough guy, and this time he didnt have the excise of 'oh I wish I had the camera rolling', because it was just on constantly.
So this was his big chance to back it up.

Damn he sure knows how to escalate situations.
Some of my favs

Trooper -
"I dont know why you're telling me at this point"
"Do you know how many people are on the planet" x4
"Its America and its private property" MERICA! lol
"People died to make private property"
"Its easy to find out who I am, Im EVERYWHERE, im everwhere, im everywhere"
"I dont have to fight, cause we have security for dat"

And he had to rub his shoulder cause his hands were shaking
Troopers little sidekick is a nice addition to it all
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01-13-2018 , 03:38 PM
Westgate employees handled this appallingly.

Not sure Trooper deserves the abuse some of you are firing at him for this. Westgate did nothing to stop that. Game should have been stopped, Security called and then either the guy shuts up or leaves.... The flip side ofcourse is that Trooper should consider that by involving himself in this scene and not letting Westgate do their job it increases chance Westgate close this weekly game down

Last edited by OFA; 01-13-2018 at 03:44 PM.
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01-13-2018 , 03:44 PM
The state of these two "Grown Ass Men". LMAO
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01-13-2018 , 03:45 PM
Also anyone who thinks Trooper is 100% in the right here, really shows your maturity.
How do you think Neeme would have handled the situation? Given most of us only know Neeme from the vlogs we have seen, but no doubt in my mind it would have been over early and with probably an additional subscriber
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01-13-2018 , 03:49 PM
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Here comes a law suit against troop, YouTube, and the casino for violation of rights and racism?
Not sure if racism comes in to it, but that's not to say a lawyer won't attempt it.

Other dude was also playing the "military family" card, which might indicate he's not shy in trying for the sympathy vote wherever he thinks he might get an edge.
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01-13-2018 , 03:50 PM
I would give Trooper a 6/10 on the calmness scale there. Probably could have handled it a little better but that wasn't too bad on his part. Maybe he was just trying to get some drama going at the table and tilt that guy too though.
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01-13-2018 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bluefingin
I would give Trooper a 6/10 on the calmness scale there. Probably could have handled it a little better but that wasn't too bad on his part. Maybe he was just trying to get some drama going at the table and tilt that guy too though.
Simple WIN/WIN solution for Trooper, Cali (guy just got immediate branding thanks to Trooper), Westgate, and everyone in the world:

Spoiler:
Trooper and Cali play a series of heads up SNGs.


Who you got?

Spoiler:
I'm picking Cali to win the best of 7 match up
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01-13-2018 , 04:15 PM
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Also anyone who thinks Trooper is 100% in the right here, really shows your maturity.
How do you think Neeme would have handled the situation? Given most of us only know Neeme from the vlogs we have seen, but no doubt in my mind it would have been over early and with probably an additional subscriber
Doubt anything thinks its 100% but Westgate poker room manager failed hard.... He could have had that resolved so quickly but was absolutely clueless
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01-13-2018 , 04:24 PM
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What would you think if you were a caucasian dealer and a black guy at your table was wearing a shirt that said "Disregard Caucasians"?
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01-13-2018 , 04:36 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Westgate ****cans all the vlogger games in the very near future now that they have become a security issue.

Oh well..it was fun while they lasted..
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01-13-2018 , 04:40 PM
I thought the behavior from Trooper was outrageous. The other guy didn’t start out by being belligerent. He asked not to be filmed and got angrier over time when Trooper was rude and disrespectful to him.

It was easy for Trooper to handle that better and he is in the wrong. I wouldn’t taunt the guy with comments like “This is for sure going on YouTube” and “Cash out and get the **** out.” If he treated the other guy with respect and the other guy blew up anyway, I would find it easier to side with Trooper. But that’s not what happened. He got angry because he was already agitated and then Trooper made it worse by being rude to him and taunting him

Before things got much worse, why not tell the guy it isn’t going on YouTube or that at least you’ll block his face out? Maybe get him a table change. Maybe move the camera since it made him feel uncomfortable. At least try to do something to show that you’re listening to him instead of acting like you don’t care.
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01-13-2018 , 04:46 PM
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The state of these two "Grown Ass Men". LMAO
Well we know Troop is an ass man, but the other guy never said if he is or not.

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