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12-08-2016 , 01:24 PM
I just posted this on Andrew's comments, but I found this relevant little section of the NRS:

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NRS 465.075  Use or possession of device, software or hardware to obtain advantage at playing game prohibited.  It is unlawful for any person to use, possess with the intent to use or assist another person in using or possessing with the intent to use any computerized, electronic, electrical or mechanical device, or any software or hardware, or any combination thereof, which is designed, constructed, altered or programmed to obtain an advantage at playing any game in a licensed gaming establishment or any game that is offered by a licensee or affiliate, including, without limitation, a device that:
1.  Projects the outcome of the game;
2.  Keeps track of cards played or cards prepared for play in the game;
3.  Analyzes the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game; or
4.  Analyzes the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game,
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12-08-2016 , 01:25 PM
I didn't get a chance to really analyze the Trooper's hand but on the surface I liked the raise but felt the sizing was too large and his logic was terrible (ie saying his flush was hidden). It's very easy to get value from worse there and sometimes you will value own yourself, which is what happened.

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12-08-2016 , 01:58 PM
Not being able to film at the table isn't that big of a deal. We will get by.
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12-08-2016 , 03:24 PM
Andrew's hand recaps were just fine without video. He's so thorough in his recounting of the hands and the action on each street that, while video would be nice, it's not totally necessary.
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12-08-2016 , 04:00 PM
Good vlogs will survive. Bad ones won't. How long before someone decides - instead of recording at the tables, they will set up a home game and recreate some of the more interesting hands.
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12-08-2016 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by brassbonanza
Andrew's hand recaps were just fine without video. He's so thorough in his recounting of the hands and the action on each street that, while video would be nice, it's not totally necessary.
Agreed. Another alternative is that in post-production, he could use a hand re-player to make the video more graphic enriched.
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12-08-2016 , 04:41 PM
Andrew's vlog sans casino recording is fine. He'll come up with something to simulate the poker table environment. He's an interesting enough player with plenty of original and intelligent thoughts to keep the vlog interesting. Good vlogs will persevere, lackluster ones will fade away.

As far as the whole recording debate this outcome was inevitable.
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12-08-2016 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike McAwesome
Good vlogs will survive. Bad ones won't. How long before someone decides - instead of recording at the tables, they will set up a home game and recreate some of the more interesting hands.
Or they could just use a online module
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12-08-2016 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike McAwesome
I just posted this on Andrew's comments, but I found this relevant little section of the NRS:
what's to stop vloggers form doing it anyway(other than electronic bans), even if its recorded the action is past tense would a casino seriously pursue litigation.

Analyzing a hand isn't the same as analyzing the spin of a roulette wheel, or scanning for week BJ dealers imo, but the casino can do whatever I suppose(get off my lawn).

Btw im sure the "you know who trolls" stained their underwear with glee after this announcement lol.

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12-08-2016 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerTravel
A guy who moderates the forums doesn't want posters to tap the glass?

I hope have this wrong bc that would be some pathetic BS. Cleary the vlogger in question is a weak player and could use some guidance on to play at a higher level.


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Thank Zeus you and your iphone are here to guide him, to guide all of us, when do we begin sensei.
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12-08-2016 , 04:57 PM
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12-08-2016 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by brassbonanza
Andrew's hand recaps were just fine without video. He's so thorough in his recounting of the hands and the action on each street that, while video would be nice, it's not totally necessary.
What's interesting is that the hand recaps in today's vlog is the same as recaps in his previous vlogs just without the minute or so of video footage that show his hold cards and oblique views of him counting out bets/calls. While that is a tiny amount of footage it goes a long way in setting up the hand discussions.
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12-08-2016 , 05:07 PM
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It'd be cool to see Andrew coach Trooper a bit. But we know that Troop won't accept coaching, even if it's free.
The way people feel about him not accepting coaching is how I feel about people not playing other games than NLH, PLO is a much better game for everyone the rec, grinder and pro.

A .50-$1 has more action than a good 1/2 game and yet people want sit around playing holdem all day.

In fact all the other games are better than NLH including FLE itself, but no one wants to use their brain to learn them where do people think holdem will be in 3 years with players getting naturally better from playing the same damn game everyday and the rake steadily increasing.

Its easier to move up through PLO than NLH I couldn't imagine being 40 and grinding just 1-2 for a living, no offense to anyone that does I mainly mean for those younger that would aspire to do so after 3 years if you haven't moved up maybe its time for a new game or to admit that either the games aren't that good, or you aren't.
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12-08-2016 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by onesickdegen
Not being able to film at the table isn't that big of a deal. We will get by.
I'll stop watching. The only VLOG I will keep watching is Troopers.
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12-08-2016 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Drrr.Gonzo
what's to stop vloggers form doing it anyway(other than electronic bans), even if its recorded the action is past tense would a casino seriously pursue litigation.

Analyzing a hand isn't the same as analyzing the spin of a roulette wheel, or scanning for week BJ dealers imo, but the casino can do whatever I suppose(get off my lawn).

Btw im sure the "you know who trolls" stained their underwear with glee after this announcement lol.
Being banned from the Casino.
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12-08-2016 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike McAwesome
I just posted this on Andrew's comments, but I found this relevant little section of the NRS:
According to that I can't even use my phone to write down the details of hands so I can analyze them or post them on the forums. But for me to stop using my phone for that purpose would be silly.

A lot of the Nevada laws are written to cover a wide range of activities so it's easier to argue someone is guilty of breaking them. The people who will get in trouble are the people that cheat. Seems silly to expect them to call the police because of a vlogger filming hands.

However, I would worry about getting banned.
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12-08-2016 , 07:08 PM
I have an epic albeit somewhat trollish solution to the table filming problem that I will be implementing in the coming weeks

I liked that Trooper was just like fk it I'll film hands at the GN haha. Come on though that was one of his better Vlogs in quite some time.
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12-08-2016 , 07:19 PM
Whey,

One could easily just snap a few hands (snapchat stories) and save them, then add them to the vlog. But regardless, no pro wants to put themselves in a spot to get perms-banned from a room.

But the photography thing goes beyond recording. There's a guy on instagram known as NYPokerKing and he used to snap pics of his stack only (and snapchat) from the Borgata. He got banned from the poker room until he made nice with manager. Now he can't even take a picture of his stacks and post them online. Some casinos are weird like that but hey I guess it's their prerogative to protect their room's media image.
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12-08-2016 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wheydacheese
I have an epic albeit somewhat trollish solution to the table filming problem that I will be implementing in the coming weeks

I liked that Trooper was just like fk it I'll film hands at the GN haha. Come on though that was one of his better Vlogs in quite some time.
Kinda curious what you think of Troops bet sizing on the river raise after he hit the nuts. I thought 155 was too small and he should of made it like 225-275.
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12-08-2016 , 07:44 PM
naturally, Trooper only won $692 from that $1500 pic... still a really good session, don't get me wrong, but still not the profit it seems from the pic. always the case.

but still really good.
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12-08-2016 , 08:41 PM
for sure I'm all for seeing trooper do good and bounce back from that recent stall, not positive about that hand your referring to I assume hitting gutter on river? I actually wasn't paying attention to the pot/stack sizes at that point so will have to go back and check it out...also need to check it later anyways to see what the pot/call size on turn was.

I did disagree with him cbetting the 7-9-x flop so big after getting 4 calls for $20 or w/e it was when he had the QQ...when this situation occurs you kind of want to flop a set or your over pair shrinks up pretty badly 5 handed at flop and I lean more towards pot control at that point and possibly taking the initiative on turn if everyone seems disinterested. It was actually somewhat fortunate for him that the 2 players that flopped better were very shortstacked b/c I get the impression from his line that he was going to stack off with this over pair to virtually any action on this flop. But hey...I'm a super nit.

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12-08-2016 , 09:02 PM
that KJ hand troop played was hilarious

Spoiler:
Pre: Opens KJo in position to 12. 2 callers
Pot: 39 Flop: AQ3r checks around
Pot: 39 Turn: 7 completing the rainbow
Troop calls $15, still 3 ways
Pot: 84 River: 10 lul 1st bets $50, 2nd calls, troop bumps it up to $155, 1st folds, 2nd calls, troop scoops $444 pot.
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12-08-2016 , 09:19 PM
really pleased with how current vid coming along but I will be doing a Q&A tomorrow first, so last chance to ask a ? but dont wanna clog this thread with that so if you have a ? just put in my LvL thread OR drop a comment in most recent youtube vid and I will answer as many of those as possible thx!
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12-08-2016 , 09:38 PM
Trooper is too easy to read.
Where am I going to eat? duh Pizza.
I am in a "Good" game = stuck $400+
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12-08-2016 , 10:43 PM
These 20+ minute vlogs are getting to be a bit to long for a non-event type video... if something happened or you are covering something special,okay. But when its boring (and in many instances questionable) hand reviews and a typical day of driving to the casino, please give us a break on the time investment.
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