Yeah I doubt rice played sports in school, I think the whole participation trophy thing is a meme / fake news

Im 57 and my dads generation accepted segregation, criminalization of homosexuality, etc - slow your roll how younger people arent as good as their predecessors.

i too am 57 and nowhere in my post did i mention anything even close to what you stated. you might wanna slow your roll about making assumptions

Millennial here. That's because the juice is not worth the squeeze anymore. I don't mind having a crappy job; as long as said job enables me to have the basic necessities (including some amount of reasonable leisure) I'll do it. But today, you can't even have the basic necessities with most jobs. It's like all employers got greedy all of a sudden. Technology advanced to a point where a computer can tell you that lowering benefits (and firing people) will increase your pay as an owner/boss/CEO and they will blindly follow it with no regard for the long term consequences (less employee morale, creating a toxic work environment, people realizing that loyalty no longer pays, etc.). All they care about is the immediate reward.

So, young people show up to work and notice that hard work no longer pays off (I've worked with people getting fired on the spot after 30+ years who sacrificed a lot to get where they were). They say, "Screw this!" and proceed to do the bare minimum just to get by. And I don't blame them to be honest. It's cringey to see a boss fire someone for daring to ask for a raise (after working there 10+ years) and the very next day have a meeting to tell the group how hard work and sacrificing yourself for the company pays off. Like, we can see through that BS. Stop lying to our faces! When you analyze the situation from a risk-reward scenario, it's just not worth it anymore. When you can't afford rent with 2 jobs, why even bother at that point? When you can be fired at any moment over the most cryptic thing and see a friend/family member of the boss get rewarded for their relationship with said boss, why be loyal?

Sadly you are right. They are in for a rough time when they get older. The reason I put up with it is because I'm selfish about it. That is, I'm not learning new skills and working hard for my employer. My job is just a means to an end. My job (software developer) provides me with enough money and learning opportunities to help me achieve my long term goals. Also I don't live paycheck to paycheck (which helps a lot). At my current workplace, I encourage young coworkers to think for themselves first. To realize that they are in it for the money and the skills they can pick up along the way. The job is just a means to an end and they don't owe the employer any loyalty. And if you ask me, they deserve it. If they want loyalty back, then they better start rewarding it. It's just simple game theory. I see loyalty is rewarded then I'll be loyal. I see employees are disposable, then my employer is also disposable and I don't owe them any loyalty.

As for your last sentence, it wasn't the participation trophies. It was the asymmetry in work done vs the reward received. Like I said, they all got too greedy for their own good. We're not idiots. If we see that hard work doesn't pay off then we'll simply do the bare minimum.

Yes but did they support Industrial Scale fetus murder (including using the still, live, cells for science experiments), mutilation of minors' sex organs for profit, sterilization of minors for profit, Governmental enforced population participation into Big Pharma for profit trials (and then the cover up of the failures of said for-profit trials), men using girl's locker rooms, men in female physical events, government (multiple) sponsored genocide of working class peoples (fentayl), fascism level cooperation between government, big tech, big pharma to propagandize youth on matters such as gender && race ?

Sorry to get back on track.

Social Security credits and the ability to set up a Roth IRA would be huge steps in the right direction.

It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine

your dads generation was born 80-100 years ago.'
there are a lot of predecessors b/w then and now for younger people including people who didn't accept these horrific things and got them changed.

I believe it was Plato living in the 4th century BC who made the earliest known suggestion that "the next generation is going to the dogs." I'm just glad streaming entertainment exists now, as the less people who rot their brains watching cable news the better. Yikes.

I remember some Boston area channel still syndicated Gomer Pyle, a black-and-white show about a lowly state-side U.S. Marine, far longer that you would expect, such that I saw a gem of an old episode where Gomer meets a bunch of hippies, and the lead hippy explains why he lives in a van in the woods and doesn't own a couch. Because if he owned a couch, he'd need somewhere to put it, which meant getting an apartment, which meant paying rent, which meant getting a job, so does he own the couch, or does the couch own him? I'm sure the episode ultimately taught whatever lesson the network and their corporate sponsors thought best.

Mind you, that episode originally aired ~55+ years ago, so it's interesting to see El D realize that such trade offs still exist. You want a steady job, you need a steady living situation, and you don't get to take spontaneous vacations. The horror of it all!

Of course, those dang hippies could have bought a house on two years salary back then for all their whining. Still, there is really nothing new under the sun. I was in San Jose California about a year ago, and the number of people just living in vans or campers was crazy. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Life finds a way.

Yeah, but he could only review documents for the state he's licensed in. So he would probably want to get licensed in NY. I suppose he could take the exam in December, and study between now and then.

Crap, now I have to go watch that video...

Someone should tell him that fulltime employees can get time off. Even further, if he becomes an actual "normie" with a place to live semi-permanently, his need for no-room weekends will disappear.

I think it's a twisted belief on why people have a job. These days they think the company is obligated to provide money and make it convenient for the employees. Just like mommy and daddy and never mind how they got their money every month. The reality is that companies are in business and everything they spend money on is expected to pay them a return in excess of the cost to them, including employees. Fundamental things that used to be taught in elementary school, or were figured out by people that actually think. Are kids not expected to think at all these days? I can understand that in many colleges now they are told what to think, but how did they even get through high school without thinking?

I watched Gomer Pyle in prime time. They didn't "teach lessons". They just made people laugh.

Thankfully no one commented on Jim Nabors being gay.

thanks for your well thought out post. but do you think things were any different for us when we were in our 20's/30's? entry level salaries at crappy jobs were just as challenging. but if we wanted anything, we worked for it. we put in overtime, had two jobs, worked 6-7 days/week at times. that was how we got by to pay our debts. my initial post was of course speaking in generalizations based on what i saw and heard myself and what rice said about not wanting to work a 'two or three day/week schedule' being eerily similar. but as i stated, to each his/her own. i wish you luck

I think the fentanyl thing is payback from China for the British Empire historically forcing the Chinese to accept opium in exchange for Chinese tea leaves.

I think Laughlin could be the answer to the no room weekends, where in Laughlin rooms on the weekends can be had about 1/2 price of Las Vegas. They have the CET Tropicana and Harrahs Laughlin there fairly affordable on a Saturday.

For basketball we'd have 8 team tournaments (approx 20 years ago now) and I remember for sure you'd get a ribbon award for 7th place in an 8 team tourney. (Can't remember 100% if 8th got one too but I think so).

I guess you can argue it's more for the memory than a prize but 1st place would get a similar ribbon and I thought it was strange at the time too I was like why are we getting this for going 1-3 or 1-4 and getting 7th place it's just embarrassing.

Globalization accelerated by NAFTA, basically the govt completely selling the country out to big corps who then sent their resources to China and elsewhere voted in by the public who didn't know any better.

Employers didn't get greedy all of a sudden, the little guy brainwashed by dumbed down public education designed to give them a corporate worker mindset kept voting for their own demise.

People been greedy since the beginning of time.

In the long run it'd likely be inevitable anyway but things should be a lot better in the USA than they are now with halfway competent management. (They are very competent in some ways though....)

My kids are 18 and 21 - they and their friends are great people and it annoys me to no end when people my age and older spew the “wHaTs wRoNg wiTh yOuNg pEoPle” line. They are as good as we were and yeah, they dont have to apologize to any generation before mine.

Why don’t you think your peers on other back of the pack teams were also capable of understanding they didn’t have as successful seasons as the first place team but still experienced more success than the version of themselves who never showed up at all.

How would participation trophies prevent Diesel from making the connection that showing up at a job every day and performing the required tasks results in a cash deposit in his bank account every Friday to fund his desired lifestyle.

How many coaches does Pman have these days?

Dude is Dollar Store Rampage.

The $200 60k guarantee is today. Three times the guarantee means 6 bullets?

Back in the day, when I was doing doc review....I was NOT licensed in the state that I was doing it in.

I still subscribe to the "Posse List" and see document review job postings from time to time. SOMETIMES you have to be licensed in the state for the review, but I would say 75% of the time, you only need to licensed & in good standing in the USA.

Also, 90% of doc review these days is remote through the interwebs. No more going into a central office. So ELD could review them docs from his comped hotel room OR in his van down by the river (if he has a good interweb connection!).