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03-25-2010 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dhg223
Would you mind listing a few cheaper steakhouses that are somewhat comparable in your opinion? We're pretty much a maincourse, bottle of wine and split a dessert kind of diners.
In MGM Craftsteak is great. Its the only place around serving Hen of the Woods mushrooms as a side dish. The scotch list is as long as the wine list. IMO, wine in LV is WAY overpriced. Per the WSJ, the reason is a big demand from top end restaurants and a shortage of suppliers. But the bartenders are great in LV and the waiters know about the scotches so I stay off the wine list in LV to control costs.

My wife and I split a single person rib eye with potatoes of some form, some form of greenery and the hen mushrooms on the side that's a lot. Have TWO desserts, the Cinnamon Monkey Bread @ Craftsteak doesn't sound like much, but is a KILLER.

Bouchon serves steaks, but its fancier food fair always draws me away.
Bouchon also serves suprisingly good and reasonably wines by the glass.
Had a Roussanne last visit. I've never seen that varietal by the glass anywhere before. Very good, too.

If you search back through my TR's they will cover both Craftsteak and Bouchons. Off campus, try Todd's Unique Dining. They do more than steak as well, but the prices are about 1/2 of strip restaurant pricing.

And there is always the Ellis Island $7 top sirlion steak, beer included!

I'll leave it to others to cover the "true" steakhouses. THe Circus Circus steakhouse restaurant always get mentioned as good steak value in a hellhole.

But if I was already staying @ MGM, I'd be @ Craftsteak (again.)
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03-26-2010 , 12:27 PM
thx a bunch for your input maybe it will be better to stay in house at mgm. I will check out their menu
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03-26-2010 , 05:06 PM
I'd rather spend the money at Cut than save the pennies (really, they're not much differently priced) and go to Craftsteak, which I was fairly unhappy with.

One that I liked a lot was Jean-Georges Steakhouse at Aria, and of course there's SW at Wynn which is fantastic. SW will be near Cut prices though, JG will be a sliver cheaper.

If you want a next-tier down (but obv nowhere near as low as somewhere like Outback), I like Capital Grille. But don't go there if you've already got one in your town. I think it's among the better of the chain steakhouses. That might fit the bill for "cheaper." As for the other "cheaper" ones in hotels, in recent memory I've only been to the ones at Bill's and Paris and I wouldn't go back to either. Haven't been to Circus Circus, Harrahs or TI, which are the other cheaper ones I can think of.
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03-26-2010 , 05:28 PM
circus circus is not good. i've been there twice, i dunno why people like it. i felt like everything there, from the steaks to the sides, was just bland and boring. and it's not even that much cheaper than going to a place like mesa grill. that place must just get a lot of business from the 60+ crowd cuz really i think the food is quite bad.
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03-27-2010 , 12:50 PM
k I have decided I want Carnevino and Bouchon for dinners, mix lounge for a drink and the view and Mesa Grill for a lunch
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03-27-2010 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dhg223
k I have decided I want Carnevino and Bouchon for dinners, mix lounge for a drink and the view and Mesa Grill for a lunch

solid
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03-27-2010 , 02:09 PM
2 more months til Lotus of Siam, def my first place to eat in vegas after a 20 hour drive
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03-27-2010 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dhg223
k I have decided I want Carnevino and Bouchon for dinners, mix lounge for a drink and the view and Mesa Grill for a lunch
Want!

Carnevino is my favorite steakhouse in Vegas. For cheaper steakhouses, I like the Striphouse @ PH.
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03-27-2010 , 09:27 PM
grunch....

This is an "old school" recommendation. Hugo's Cellar in the basement of the Four Queens on Fremont St. has always been a crowd pleaser. Old time fine dining atmosphere, superb service, excellent food, reasonable prices.
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03-27-2010 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nolimitfiend
Hugo's Cellar in the basement of the Four Queens on Fremont St. has always been a crowd pleaser.
I wouldn't say the food is excellent, but it is an exceptional value and a really good time. The Indian Sommelier that struts around cracks me up, as do the frayed roses they hand out to the ladies, and the goofy table-side salad cart.

It's an institution. Worth going to just to see what a Vegas steakhouse used to be like--and how far steakhouses in Vegas have come.
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03-27-2010 , 11:29 PM
ZeeJustin- just wondering have you been to sushi zo and if so thoughts?
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03-27-2010 , 11:35 PM
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I wouldn't say the food is excellent, but it is an exceptional value and a really good time. The Indian Sommelier that struts around cracks me up, as do the frayed roses they hand out to the ladies, and the goofy table-side salad cart.

It's an institution. Worth going to just to see what a Vegas steakhouse used to be like--and how far steakhouses in Vegas have come.
Been a few years since I've been there. Of course my idea of excellent is probably at any decent food critic's bottom range....
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03-28-2010 , 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dhg223
k I have decided I want Carnevino and Bouchon for dinners, mix lounge for a drink and the view and Mesa Grill for a lunch
Noooooo you took Spago off the list. At least try it for a lunch


If you look back far enough when I was planning my TR I got a LOT of bad reviews of Mesa Grill and decided to nix it off of my original list.

P.S. If you do ultimately go to Spago, try one of their desserts, it's ridic.
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03-28-2010 , 05:51 PM
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ZeeJustin- just wondering have you been to sushi zo and if so thoughts?
No, but I'm sure I'd love it. KevinEats says it's probably the 2nd best sushi place in LA.
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03-29-2010 , 11:38 PM
1. Joel Robouchon
2. Craftsteak
both at MGM

Worst/ most overrated
1.Charlies seafood at the Venetian
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03-30-2010 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pocket9s
1. Joel Robouchon
2. Craftsteak
both at MGM

Worst/ most overrated
1.Charlies seafood at the Venetian

I assume you mean Restaurant Charlie at Palazzo, which just closed.
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03-30-2010 , 09:27 PM
Reprinting my yelp review of Bartolotta here.

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My wife and I ate here on a Sunday evening (3/28/10). We had a 7:15 reservation, and they seated us early.

After looking over the menu, we decided we would go for the Gran Menu di Mare for two ( $155/person)

We both enjoy red wine, but aren't terribly knowledgeable, so I asked the waiter to select one. He asked for a price range, and we had the Il Borro 2006 Super Tuscan ($92), which was very good and complemented the meal well (so much so that we finished it far before we were done eating which is very rare.) The sky is the limit on their wine list, BTW, so for more experienced (or flat out baller) customers, prices range from about $50 to well into four figures.

The menu included the following (all items are available on the a la carte menu):

Appetizers
- grilled saber fish, radicchio, anchovy sauce

We both thought the fish was just a little overdone. I found the bitterness of the radicchio to be too strong for the mild flavor of the fish, so overall, this was pretty average and our least favorite of the appetizers.

- seared sea scallops with porcini mushrooms

Two scallops, perfectly cooked, served with sauteed mushrooms...delicious

- sauteed tiny clams with tomato sauce, white wine, parsley

A very generous portion of sauteed clams with a nice, fresh flavor. This dish suffered a bit based on the pacing (more on that later.)

- Ligurian octopus salad, olive oil, lemon

Steamed chunks of octopus in a simple dressing. I am not a big fan of octopus, which as often as not is tough and slightly bitter. This particular preparation was fantastic. Fork-tender, but with a good mouth feel. This was the best of the appetizers.

- grilled langoustines

Two grilled langoustines, split in half. There was some kind of a crusting on the body portion that reminded me of thermidor, but not as heavy, while the meat in the tail was simply grilled and seasoned. This dish is not included with the Menu di Paranza, and accounts for a portion of the difference in price.

A minor quibble I had with the pacing here, is that they brought the first four appetizers out at the same time, and the langoustines just a couple of minutes later. We could have been having an eating contest and not gotten through it all before something started getting cold, much less trying to savor what we were eating, and talking about what we liked/didn't like.

Believe me, we can have at it with a fork, and we are definitely not pretentious foodies having a 20-minute discussion on, well, whatever pretentious foodies have 20-minute discussions on, but I'd rather they brought them out 2 at a time and maybe the langoustines last, since that's one of the special items with that menu.

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Settings are changed here, and fresh, hot plates are brought out for the pasta dishes.

Pasta

- risotto with clams, scallops, lobster, calamari

Perfectly prepared, creamy, and good portions of shellfish such that you get a good combination of flavors in every bite.

- penne with lobster

This is the second difference for this menu...the Menu di Paranza does not have lobster in this dish. If I had to guess, I would say they allot ~2 ounces of lobster per person. The penne and lobster were both cooked well, but the star of this dish is actually the sauce. The sign at the front said no t-shirts, but didn't mention anything about not sopping up this sauce with the bread.

- ricotta ravioli, pecorino, marsala with glaze

Basic (as basic as it gets here) ravioli with two different cheeses. Believe me, it's good, but not "Wow!"

Again, reset the table...

Main course
- whole sea bream

I wasn't sure which sea bream, specifically (there were two on the menu) but a whole roasted fish is disassembled tableside, and presented with a simple dressing of cherry tomatoes, zucchini, olive oil and just a hint of acid (might be a little bit of lemon juice and vinegar both, not sure.)

The meat was very juicy and very slightly sweet, and overall you can definitely tell that the fish was very fresh (there are no cloudy eyes in the cart when they roll it out to show you the fresh seafood before taking orders.)

This was the second minor quibble I had: I wouldn't have minded being able to choose from some different fish, perhaps even to the point of adjusting the price...I dunno, just a thought.

Table cleared, and you are overwhelmed with dessert!

Dessert_s_
- Ligurian lemon and olive oil cake, rosemary gelato
- chocolate almond cake, white chocolate gelato, chocolate sauce
- chocolate gelato, raspberry sorbet, not sure which granite

All I'll say about this is, save room!

The staff were very attentive, and our primary server was helpful in answering questions as well as making a wine selection. There is a dress "suggestion", but it was loosely enforced. If you're at Venetian, it's an easy walk. Definitely expensive, but worth it for a special occasion!
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04-08-2010 , 07:25 PM
I ate at Joel Rubuchon for the first time on my last recent vegas trip. We got the tasting menu with 13 or 16 course (I forget).

I have to say that I don't care for foie gras and I am more of a meat and potatoes kind of guy but I do enjoy some seafood and a fancy pasta.

Some of the highlights were
1. Caviar with a gelee and crab meat on the bottom
2. Lobster in a ravoli with a truffle butter sauce, Lobster with a lemon grass spear, and a shrimp dumpling in white tea
3. Salmon that was very smoky I forget what sauce it was in
4. Scallop in a Kumkwat sauce

Some of the low lights
1. Sea urchin in beef gelee with carrot fondant (Beef should not be made into a Jelly)
2. Bean Sprout Risotto
4. Cabbaged stuffed with Tofu and some other vegetable (I requested no foie gras)
5. Sweet onion foam with a fava bean veloute (Fava bean soup)

The highlight of the whole meal was the dessert cart where they had at least 30 tiny little petite fours (not sure if the spelling is right). Everything from an almond tuille, vanilla caramel, Blueberry cheesecake truffle, Ginger Pistachio Macaroon, flavoured marshmallows, etc.

I have to say it was an interesting experience but I would probably not rush back. Some of the courses were interesting but I would probably never order them. Great Decor, great service.



I also ate a Miichael Mina
I had the cookbook tasting menu at Michael Mina, it was awesome.
The first course of tuna tartar was kinda meh. The 2nd was the lobster pot pie which was awesome. THe lobster cream sauce is so tasty. Then we had the Cod in a miso broth with little florets of broccoli and cauliflower. Finally a Rib eye steak with Foie Gras. For dessert they gave us each 3 mini desserts, a s'more, a rootbeer float with chocolate chip cookies and an opera cake. All were great and the portion was the right amount.

I would definately recommend. This meal was a 9/10
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04-09-2010 , 03:46 AM
Why request no foie at Joel Robuchon?
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04-09-2010 , 08:15 AM
because he doesn't like foie gras?
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04-09-2010 , 10:33 AM
am i the only one who thinks its hilarious that you request no foie so the chef is like **** this mother****er and he gives you tofu stuffed cabbage?? hahahaha

the mina tasting menu, did they give you the full serviing of pot pie or did they bake you a little mini one?
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04-09-2010 , 05:03 PM
i had lunch with gobbo at carnevino just now. the food was pretty decent, i just wanted to comment on the joke that was its presentation. they literally just placed our steaks on the plate. no garnish or anything. my tiny little filet stranded in the vast, desolate plain of the white plate. this made me sad.
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04-10-2010 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Yeti
because he doesn't like foie gras?
Then why order the ribeye with foie at the next restaurant?
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04-10-2010 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by augie_
i had lunch with gobbo at carnevino just now. the food was pretty decent, i just wanted to comment on the joke that was its presentation. they literally just placed our steaks on the plate. no garnish or anything. my tiny little filet stranded in the vast, desolate plain of the white plate. this made me sad.

Sounds like the way they do it at any classy steakhouse.
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04-10-2010 , 02:20 PM
how lame!
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