+1 to hiroyoshi. im still very new to find sushi dining, been to kabuto and hiroyoshi, and i just think that the atmosphere is different and hiroyoshi is a lot further from strip. kabuto seems a lot more "serious", mirroring the atmosphere of jiro. when i went to hiroyoshi sitting in front of the chef, it seemed more personal and laid back. i dont have the palate to differentiate the quality of fish between the two, but they are both amazing.

I last went to Kabuto in July. The $120 omakase was a little too much food for me after helping the wife out a bit. She was full when it came to "name your nigiri", so I had to stuff in four pieces of o toro. If you aren't ravenous, the $80 omakase with two o toro nigiri added is a good choice.

Will have to try the octopus - I'll text you Wyman.

poor guy

That sums it up for me too. Piero's I thought wasn't as good as Ferraro's. On the strip I think in no particular order Sinatra, Scarpetta, Portofino, and Carbone are the best 4. Sinatra unfortunately I am not a big fan of many of the menu entrees. If they only had a few more pastas on there I would be there every time I'm in town. On the "cheaper" and less known side Cucina by Wolfgang Puck and Mercato in Venetian may be 2 sneaky good ones you don't hear much about. Mercato is in the cursed location however where I think 4 restaurants have failed since 2010 with none making it over 2 years.

+1 to Ferraros not blowing anyone away, but I have read some awful things about Pieros, particularly from ELV. I think Portofino is the best value of the bunch you mentioned. I have had two very solid meals there, although wouldn't go out of my way if I was going home to east coast anytime soon. They also have an off the menu lobster dish that is very good. Carbone and Carnevino I think are the top two in terms of quality. After that I would put Sinatra, Portofino, and Allegro in the next tier although I haven't been to Allegro in awhile, and they have changed the menu to become as basic Italian as humanly possible so there is also a probability that the quality has dropped like a number of other Wynn restaurants.

Anyone have thoughts on the best fine dining sushi option to go if one person in the couple doesn't like sushi particularly, but does enjoy cooked seafood/etc. ?

Surf,

No idea about best, but Nobu def works for that.

Best place to go on Christmas day for a full Turkey Dinner? Yorkshire Puddings would be a bonus?

+1 with some better value options like Sen or Raku if you don't need the pomp and circumstance of Strip fine dining.

Man I just looked at the menu prices, those are some of the biggest strip upcharges I have seen. I haven't been to Nobu in Vegas, but Raku and Sen are both great.

What is the best steak in Vegas? Not restaurant or experience but actual entree?

We need a Fine Dining Thread FAQ.

a matter of preference and depending what i'm in the mood for. but my go-to:

Lawrys: Prime Rib
Mastros: Bone in rib-eye
Picasso: A5 Wagyu

Checked out MB steak before a concert at the Hard Rock. First of all, have to say I had a great experience mainly from the environment. The bartenders were fantastic and just made the whole experience great. I just decided to make a meal out of apps which is something I do a lot. Ill start with the rock shrimp, incredibly mediocre and the shrimp were tiny, you can get a way better version at Japaneiro or Smashed Pig to name a couple. I am a huge fan of lobster bisque and this is definitely an above average version. Throw in some really good bread for dipping and this was a winner. The bartenders both recommended the bacon and egg. Bacon was somewhere in between pork belly and breakfast bacon, and was really quite good, if not very imaginative. Overall, I was not blown away by the food, but I will definitely be back next time I go to a concert over there because I had such a good overall experience.

Went to Hachi, which is in the same plaza as Chada Thai. This is borderline for "fine" dining depending on your city of origin but for $40/person for yakatori and other skewered dishes exceeded expectations, even knowing that Wyman and others picked the restaurant. The salmon belly and chicken with onion were exceptional. The sashimi was nominal.

Take it with a grain of salt but my girlfriend and I today go to Bouchon in Venetian (we had a reservation) and they were closed due to renovations (just for the day!). I later am told by another employee in an establishment in Venetian that they got a surprise inspection around 7pm on 12/11 and were shutdown. They didn’t know what it was for but they must have been totally blindsided by it because they didn’t notify anyone they would be shut today

I have no idea about this incident but it wouldn't come down as a huge surprise. I remember they voluntarily shut down for a day or two a couple of years back after they came within one point of getting shut down by the health department after an inspection.

When I was living in Berlin, the house I lived in had a fancy "celebrity-hotspot" Thai restaurant located on the bottom floor. One day they put a sign out that read "temporarily closed for renovations". A couple hours later, property management sent out an email telling us about a huge cockroach infestation in the basement that was tracked back to the restaurant kitchen and that we should check our storage units in the basement to see if our stuff was OK. Obviously never set foot into the restaurant again after they reopened.

We are big fans and frequent diners at Hachi, but calling it anywhere near 'fine dining' is a misnomer, pretty much no matter your definition of this term.

Hachi's food is largely very good, and great value as well. And, I realize that 'fine dining' no longer automatically means table cloths and over-attentive service. If you do an online search, you'll see 'fine dining' today defined generally by the commitment and the ability of the total restaurant staff to work together in order to consistently provide an extraordinary dining experience for their patrons.

Hachi's
- very run-of-the-mill decor (which, although with some alterations, largely was 'imported' from the former tenant in same space, Kaze Sushi, which closed 3 years ago or so after terminating their '2-for-1' sushi promo),

- lack of effective a/c in the summer months, which consequently leave patrons wearing anything but Ts sweating uncomfortably,

- friendly but clearly over-worked kitchen and wait staff, which on more than one occasion have forced me to get up from the meal and go to the bar, in order to have my water glass refilled after failing to attract any kind of staff attention, and

- related inability to provide the dining experience with any reasonable pace or system, with courses instead being brought to the table in no particular order or intervals, as the kitchen manages to fire them and wait staff becomes available -

all this says loud and clearly - NOT fine dining.

Again, I am a fan of Hachi, but as a good neighborhood restaurant.

It serves neither the 2+2 population nor the establishment to describe it as a 'fine dining' outlet.

Went to Gordon Ramsey Steak @ Paris for the first time today and thought the food was mediocre and the service was really bad. It could be a one off experience, but I doubt I'll be back to find out.

The ribeye was under seasoned and it would've been helpful to have something other than a butter knife to cut it with. Everything else (brussel sprouts, beef wellington) were pretty good, but not terribly memorable.

Our waitress was very friendly while we were ordering and then completely disappeared after the food came out. We actually had to go hunt her down twice, once for a new butter knife for my steak, once for our check after waiting quite a while. My friend ordered a side of asparagus with his meal and the waitress asked if he wanted it a la oscar. He was like, "sure?" When the waitress left, I asked my friend if he had intended to order what he ordered, and he quickly changed his mind and found our waitress to cancel the asparagus. When our food came out, there was his asparagus a la oscar. He told the waitress he cancelled it and she said "oh, you cancelled the asparagus, but not the a la oscar, and that comes with asparagus". Lol what. My friend didn't make a big scene about it but I just thought it was really shady and it sort of put a downer on the whole experience.

Knives,


That’s potentially the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard of being said by restaurant staff, and actually merits a beverage being flung across the dining room.

Not ordering the rib cap from Ramsey might be more egregious

Yeah, it was completely absurd. I'm sure they get a lot of people trying to get free food by making bull**** complaints, and they have to be on the ultra-defensive about food waste, but this was a legitimate complaint.

To be fair, it was the highlight of the meal, at least for me.

Also I'm guessing it'd take about 3 minutes to get 86'd from all TR properties if you flung a beverage across the room.

Knives,

Perhaps correct, but you have to stay true to yourself.

One time at a different fine dining restaurant I ordered a main course and a side salad, then changed my mind to having a large salad as my main course. They brought the large salad and put the side salad right next to it. I asked about it and was told I didn’t cancel the side salad. Needless to say I deducted the price of that one from my tip.

Legitimately loled this