Yea, but that looks to be 6/5 JoB, which is like, a 95-96% machine. Tack on an extra 2% for the double royal, and it's still a pretty bad game. But I guess you can't ask for much on the strip when it comes to low-stakes VP

Glglgl buddy

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Is there anything more fun in poker than snowing?


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Busto in the triple draw mixer. Happy to not disgrace myself and managed to take a couple of other runners down before falling myself.


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Hi Donk Dunc! I wondered on Sunday if I might be playing with you (because I wonder if any good Australian player around your age is you. ) And I came here to see if you were in town. Based on this hand I was!

I was s5

Perhaps my view is slanted but I think she might have been in a bit of a “take a stand” position. She had taken a lot of small hits when she was in the 6 seat both from you in s7 and trying to steal (or winding up with slightly weaker vbet hands?) from me when I checked rivers. Eventually she had moved to s3 (to get away from you? Me?).

I recall that showdown and reported it back to the slack channel I have with my friends. I was overall impressed with her play.

You were a lot of fun to play with and I appreciated the “well played”as you left!

Wow. And having played with you I can say I see no reason for that level of *******ry.

You clearly enjoyed your time with Heidi so much that I sought her out as I wrapped up my session. Now I have a degen habit too!

Wait! Was this me? S5 to your s7? I don’t recall this hand.

Interested in seat numbers for above as well.

Nice playing with you!

Thanks for contributing, and yes, you played well. It was a much tougher table than the average $1/$3 table, I’d suggest.

Whilst we were playing, I noticed you in the forum and thought you might have been reading this trip report at the time. You’d opened a lot of buttons and I’d said I was gonna start defending my BB soon and briefly considered writing on here about how light I was gonna 3 bet you, hoping you’d read it. Then, if it played out right, I’d actually have a hand, but would be expecting you to 4bet from the button light because of what had been written

Yes, that girl played really well. She moved from s6 for a reason and that probably was her “take a stand” hand. Despite much of the feedback in here, I still don’t mind my play. I had 10 live outs when I jammed the turn so it wasn’t an out and out bluff, and suspect the play wins the hand a good proportion of the time.

At the risk of being told once again that my play was spewy in the hand, what did your group feedback on it?


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Good playing with you too. Heidi was good, but then again, most of the masseuses in the Wynn are excellent. Before developing the massage habit though - it is a slippery slope into the depths of a $300 a day habit!!

The hand where I jammed the pair, flush draw and gut shot (56hh) was against a guy that occupied seat 3. The Asian girl took his seat when he left.


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1) I hadn’t actually followed the full action of that hand so my post was just And 2) it’s my buddies but not exactly who I would go to for deep strat analysis if you know what I mean.

Myself, I like your logic and it’s 50/50 if she’s “take a stand” (call) or “F this, not again” (fold) at that point.

Fwiw, I was on the phone a lot but not 2p2. I record a lot of hands in my slack channel because it encourages me to pay attention, think about hands a bit more, and keeps me from getting bored and playing too loose.

I guess she moved because either I was stealing initiative in front of her or you were raising behind her when she was in the 6? At least she switched the scenario though I was happy to get position on her instead of her having it on me.

Oh, the skinny quiet guy with glasses? Good move. I felt he folded too much late in hands.

My brother and I took the view that the NBA would want a Cleveland win, and surely Cleveland had to win, so we put our money where our mouths are. $400 has been better spent elsewhere.

The good news is we watched the game at a blackjack table and broke even in that.

Got horribly butchered at craps (My brother was a craps virgin and like many losing their virginity, he didn’t find the experience particularly pleasant) before moving on to pai gow. Had a few drinks and then found ourselves as the only two players at the table. What better time to play the banker and up the stakes? That was a lot of fun and whilst it is not profitable as a pairing, I think I have mentioned before that a $1 from my brother is worth $2 from anywhere else so it quickly became $100 hands. Being the banker also seemed to have our dealer horribly confused for a while which may have led to her mistake in the next paragraph.

My brother doesn’t bet the bonus at pai gow so when a couple of others joined our table and we were no longer alternating being the banker, I started playing his bonus as well as mine. Two hands in and he hits quad aces and the dealer pays us 50:1 instead of 25:1. That covered the butchering at the craps table and gave us good reason to bank the win to cash out.


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Sorry p566 - I didn’t elaborate on the J9 hand where I flopped trips. This was against a guy who sat down in seat 1 and I was complimenting him on his watch. About 30, white, wearing a cap, and seemed friendly. He played for about an hour and then moved to the table opposite us.


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I know exactly who you mean. Also had a backwards black baseball cap. I took note of one hand he was briefly involved in with me that day as well as I felt certain he would try to run me over just based on one intense stare he gave me. Of course then he changed tables.

But he was back on Monday and we played together for quite a while and he did quite well, as expected. He’s a local reg but has an outside job in sales where he’s quite successful. Seems that was the case for most of the table Monday. There was also a retired jeweler that day so LOTs of watch talk. Anyway, yes he was quite friendly and quite skilled. Sorry, rambling on little sleep.

Also, just read the intro above and hearing you are from the UK clears up a lot. At the table I had thought that was how your accent sounded but then heard you mention Australia and thought I wasn’t good and recognizing accents.

Good luck on the rest of your trip!

Great TR Donk, GL the rest of the way!

Thank you FloppyJ


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Jump into an early morning game at the Bellagio at the same time as another new player on my direct left joins. First hand, I open Ax, he 3bets, another player calls and I fold. Fellow new player gets a full double with AQ on a Q high flop.

Second hand of the session, I open again with QT suited and he calls. Flop is J8x with one heart and he calls my cbet, but looked like he wanted to raise. I drill the off suit 9 on the flop and he doubles me up having flopped too set.

Third hand of the session, one player opens and I 3bet JJ. Fellow new player jams over my 3 bet fairly quickly and I eventually let it go. He had KK

Looks like this may be an active early morning session.


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Wow - I just keeping running big hands into my fellow new player’s bigger hands. Just doubled him up, my TT v his QQ on a 9 high flop, blind v blind.


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Play calmed down after the initial rush and I’ve grinded my second buy-in up to $800 when this hand happens. LP opens for $11, cutoff calls, button calls and I look down at AA in the SB. As I do that, my brother arrives and taps me on the shoulder. I tell him we’re good to go after this hand. (Not sure if this plays into the thinking of villain in this hand or not).

I 3bet to $65, late position and cutoff fold and button calls. The button is the same player that occupied seat 3 at the Wynn a couple of sessions ago and a few hands reported on here were against him. (My KK fold and my combo draw jam).

Flop is K72hhx and I size the cbet down a little to $55. Villain then decides to raise, and makes it $135. Both sessions against him he has played tight and I have never seen him bet his draws hard. 22 is very unlikely and 77 seems also unlikely, but possible. KK would not have flatted the opener’s raise pre-flop I don’t think, so most probable hand is AK or KQ in my mind.

I take the simplest, most ABC route and bump it to $380. Villain started the hand with ~$600 so my bet is clearly committing myself. He goes into the tank, and stays there for ages. I’m now convinced he has AK/KQ and is mulling over whether he can let his top pair hand go. Internally, I am willing him to call.

A couple of minutes later, he comes out of the tank with a shove. I call and immediately turn my hand over. Dealer burns and then puts another K on the turn. I can’t help myself and call out “Ah, ****”. Villain says “What are you so worried about?”. River is a brick, villain mucks and I get pushed the $1.2k pot.

Villain then leaves the table and everyone is “Wtf did he have then?”. Dealer immediately chimes in with “He is normally super tight. He never jams a draw”. So, no one has any idea what he might have had, but I’m happy to win the hand and cash out a $800 winner in a couple of hours of Bellagio breakfast poker.

And, not a bad hand for my brother to see!!


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Very nice. This is the thin guy with glasses, maybe mid-30s?

My guess is he thought you were playing him and trying to pick off your bluff with a hand like QQ or JJ. He didn’t see the 55 vs 99 or I would say that was a factor.

But It really isn’t what I would expect from him.

Did you have Ah or could he have had Ah2h for pair Plus FD Plus over card? I don’t see him calling the raise pre flop with that hand.

Yep, that’s the guy.

I came to a similar conclusion as you, in that he must have had a pocket pair in he 88-QQ range. I didn’t have the Ah but it would be very odd for him to have called pre flop and 4bet shoved flop with a Axhh hand. The 88-QQ would seem more likely as played.

The other thing that supports that view is that when I turned over my AA, I got the feeling that we was suddenly totally deflated. He had no fold equity with his jam so he would have had the same level of hope / expectation with a draw, irrespective of the hand I had. For him to be deflated when seeing AA suggests he likely had a pocket pair. Getting 200 big blinds in with that on a K high flop is lolbad though.

I do also suspect that the fact it was clearly my last hand and in front of my brother played into his thinking some what.


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Thank goodness he's dumb enough to play a progressive VP machine.

Should've grabbed your chips back.