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If you are sportsbettor/poker player, where is the best place to live? If you are sportsbettor/poker player, where is the best place to live?

10-04-2018 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CoitusMaximus
I agreed with everything you said in regards to sports betting earlier but you are completely wrong here.



Sports betting and poker are the only two casino games where you can use skill to beat the game. NOT JUST POKERS. Poker is also juiced by the house just like in sports betting, its called rake.



Your skill set has to put the odds in advantage so that you can can come out on top of after beating your opponents and the rake.



In both games, you need extreme discipline along with knowledge of the game to succeed long term.

That would be correct if you play with players only marginally worse than you, which is not the case in any low/mid stake games where rake has a sensible impact.

In a typical scenario of a Vegas poker room, 1-2 or 2-5 games are mostly populated by very unskillful players whose inability makes the rake ineffective. Take those drunk players splashing chips around, those tilted or those blatantly bad at poker.

This doesn’t happen when you play sports, your enemy is the house who controls the odds and can move the spread. You will have to face the juice without any cushion and, on top of that, they can limit you at their pleasure.

Bottom line: they are both skill games but in sports you play vs an equally skilful players who doesn’t pay the rake while you do.



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10-04-2018 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Luisgallo

This doesn’t happen when you play sports, your enemy is the house who controls the odds and can move the spread. You will have to face the juice without any cushion and, on top of that, they can limit you at their pleasure.

Bottom line: they are both skill games but in sports you play vs an equally skilful players who doesn’t pay the rake while you do.

While the books may 'control' the manner in which they set the price and the spread, the reality is that once a bet is placed, the price doesn't change FOR THAT BET. As such, PLENTY of opportunities exist in a place like Las Vegas (presume Reno has options as well) to hedge. Margins may be thin, but there are plenty of people who are making enough money from one end of the Strip to the other to make it worth their while to bet both ends of the Strip.

The addition of the in-game betting increases the options...

Nobody forces a bettor to take bad prices. There is MORE than enough in the way of options. It is no different than a sharp who decides that the line on a particular game makes it one that is simply not worth their while when there are 10-15 other NFL games or god knows HOW many NCAA games on the board for a given weekend.

To say nothing of the fact that there won't be many people going broke taking the over on puck lines for VGK games LOL!

And there are simply not that many people that find themselves limited in Vegas when it comes to their betting NFL/NCAA games. The biggest limitation is going to be that the current rules interpretations have all but eliminated defense from the games and you never know from game to game whether it will hit the over even before half-time or whether it will be a snooze-fest. The limitation WON'T be on what they will allow you to place at the counter...I would think someone that spent a whole month each year in Vegas should know this...
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10-04-2018 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by michelle227
While the books may 'control' the manner in which they set the price and the spread, the reality is that once a bet is placed, the price doesn't change FOR THAT BET. As such, PLENTY of opportunities exist in a place like Las Vegas (presume Reno has options as well) to hedge. Margins may be thin, but there are plenty of people who are making enough money from one end of the Strip to the other to make it worth their while to bet both ends of the Strip.



The addition of the in-game betting increases the options...



Nobody forces a bettor to take bad prices. There is MORE than enough in the way of options. It is no different than a sharp who decides that the line on a particular game makes it one that is simply not worth their while when there are 10-15 other NFL games or god knows HOW many NCAA games on the board for a given weekend.



To say nothing of the fact that there won't be many people going broke taking the over on puck lines for VGK games LOL!



And there are simply not that many people that find themselves limited in Vegas when it comes to their betting NFL/NCAA games. The biggest limitation is going to be that the current rules interpretations have all but eliminated defense from the games and you never know from game to game whether it will hit the over even before half-time or whether it will be a snooze-fest. The limitation WON'T be on what they will allow you to place at the counter...I would think someone that spent a whole month each year in Vegas should know this...


I am very confident to say that they can and they will limit you at their discretion.

And by the way, I never said that you cannot make money with betting, I just said that spreads are wide in Vegas and that makes is much harder than online.




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10-04-2018 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Luisgallo
I am very confident to say that they can and they will limit you at their discretion.

And by the way, I never said that you cannot make money with betting, I just said If you bet on sports In Vegas you will be homeless soon




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fyp

What you wrote before was literally:


"If you bet on sports In Vegas
you will be homeless soon given the outrageously bad odds".

Can you admit your actual assertion is even more extreme than saying merely you cannot make money with betting in Las Vegas or it is "much harder than online" ?

A number of posters here have provided evidence of their ability to bet sports successfully in Las Vegas.

Instead of attempted weaseling away from your prior declarations, own your prior ignorance. But, live and learn.

Last edited by Gzesh; 10-04-2018 at 07:16 PM.
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10-04-2018 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by michelle227
While the books may 'control' the manner in which they set the price and the spread, the reality is that once a bet is placed, the price doesn't change FOR THAT BET. As such, PLENTY of opportunities exist in a place like Las Vegas (presume Reno has options as well) to hedge. Margins may be thin, but there are plenty of people who are making enough money from one end of the Strip to the other to make it worth their while to bet both ends of the Strip. ...

...I would think someone that spent a whole month each year in Vegas should know this...
..... unless of course that "whole month each year" is no more genuine than the sportsbook someone claimed to own.

Last edited by Gzesh; 10-04-2018 at 07:25 PM.
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10-04-2018 , 09:10 PM
Can this be moved to the sports betting thread? I’d love to see what the trolls that swim in that cesspool think of this.
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10-05-2018 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
fyp

What you wrote before was literally:


"If you bet on sports In Vegas
you will be homeless soon given the outrageously bad odds".

Can you admit your actual assertion is even more extreme than saying merely you cannot make money with betting in Las Vegas or it is "much harder than online" ?

A number of posters here have provided evidence of their ability to bet sports successfully in Las Vegas.

Instead of attempted weaseling away from your prior declarations, own your prior ignorance. But, live and learn.


I haven’t seen any evidence at all!
Actually I think my initial statement works for the 99% of the population.
Then technically you can make money, but as I explained it is extremely unlikely as you always play against the odds and the house rules.

I welcome everybody to wage on my site if they could.



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05-25-2021 , 10:11 PM
Wow, has been 3 years since I posted. I only lasted 1 year in Vegas. Not worth the hassle at all. It is true, if you win and once they know who you are, they don't need supervisor approval to even place something like 5k on nba game. They don't let you bet bigger until closer to game time when the line value has already been lost. I moved back to canada and been exclusively using pinnacle and betcris. These two books is all you need. Way ahead of Vegas.
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05-25-2021 , 10:39 PM
Um thanks for the update. Lol when you first posted I assumed you where some type of person trying to market your betting site.

Love if you’d expand on what you ended up doing in Vegas. Where you moved, where you mostly bet. Anything fun?
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05-26-2021 , 11:53 PM
Here's a quote from the BettingResource site:
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These are our top rated sports picks (15 to 25 picks every month). As the name indicates, each of these bets are for a risk for 10 units. 10 unit picks are ideal for bettors with large bankroll who prefer higher yield with minimal variance.
If you believe this guy was winning money with this joke of a site, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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05-27-2021 , 12:07 AM


Take an initial bankroll of $1000 for example.
If you double your money every 3 months, from Jan 1, 2019
2019
$2000 April
$4000 July
$8000 October
$16 000 Dec 31

2020
$32 000 April
$64 000 July
$128 000 October
$256 000 Dec 31

2021
$512 000 April
$1 024 000 July

Not bad. A cool half mill in the first half of 2021 hey Coitus?
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