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Old 03-22-2012, 03:32 AM   #426
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No report, this could be good or bad.
hes a grinder in Vegas, these aren't all degen threads... Id lay chalk its more likely that hes within 20bb of breakeven then up or down two buyins.

It gets boring posting 3bet the nit in position with 10 8, cbet flop n took it down and raised ak got called in three spots sb donked utg+1 called we fold

When interesting stuff happens, he'll post it I'm sure, but truth is the poker grind is boring as **** day in n day out. Quite the opposite from Ben's degen lolcoaster
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Old 03-22-2012, 03:35 AM   #427
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Contemplating taking a shot at 2,5 tonight.. If I do I'll more than likely be at bellagio. Wish me luck
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Old 03-22-2012, 03:38 AM   #428
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hes a grinder in Vegas, these aren't all degen threads... Id lay chalk its more likely that hes within 20bb of breakeven then up or down two buyins.

It gets boring posting 3bet the nit in position with 10 8, cbet flop n took it down and raised ak got called in three spots sb donked utg+1 called we fold

When interesting stuff happens, he'll post it I'm sure, but truth is the poker grind is boring as **** day in n day out. Quite the opposite from Ben's degen lolcoaster
I ended up just going to venetian and just playing my standard game.. But in regards to updates this guys post pretty much sums it up. Idk things that might seem interesting to your average 1,2 player don't seem post worthy to me I guess. I still have yet to have a overly interesting/tough spot happen.. (hidden brag about my run good)
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:23 AM   #429
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hes a grinder in Vegas, these aren't all degen threads... Id lay chalk its more likely that hes within 20bb of breakeven then up or down two buyins.

It gets boring posting 3bet the nit in position with 10 8, cbet flop n took it down and raised ak got called in three spots sb donked utg+1 called we fold

When interesting stuff happens, he'll post it I'm sure, but truth is the poker grind is boring as **** day in n day out. Quite the opposite from Ben's degen lolcoaster
First off, let me say I love reading this Trip Report. Just got back from Vegas myself. Stayed at the Southpoint for their Sportsbook during March Madness so not much poker for me for this trip. I do have one question from this post. I'm starting playing poker a little more regularly and really just starting to study the game. The question I have is are we 3betting the nit because we know we can fire out a cbet and we know he'll fold, or becuase we know he wouldn't 4bet us. If he's a nit and he raises, shouldn't that send us signals that he has a strong hand, or is that my low inexperienced way of thinking?

Keep up the good work on the grind!!
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:23 AM   #430
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Ok a fun little situation just came up, let's hear opinions. I have everyone covered.
Reads: mp is pretty passive only raised maybe a couple times pre so far. My read on the hand is he has 1010/AQ+
Sb: old fart also passive unless he has a big hand.
Bb: loose goose fish, and hasn't done anything to horrid yet pre but just took a bad beat and is liable to go nuts

Mp raises to 10 I'm in hj with QQ.. Normally I 3bet this all day but spidy senses told me not to.. I ask about his stack before I end up just flatting. I'm sure everyone got the impression I was deciding on either calling or raising.. Sb flats bb says well guess ill do the all in and pushes in 68 total. Mp has about 170 left... What's your play if he shoves/calls/ folds. (don't required to answer the if he folds part, kinda Obv what to do if he folds...
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:31 AM   #431
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Ok a fun little situation just came up, let's hear opinions. I have everyone covered.
Reads: mp is pretty passive only raised maybe a couple times pre so far. My read on the hand is he has 1010/AQ+
Sb: old fart also passive unless he has a big hand.
Bb: loose goose fish, and hasn't done anything to horrid yet pre but just took a bad beat and is liable to go nuts

Mp raises to 10 I'm in hj with QQ.. Normally I 3bet this all day but spidy senses told me not to.. I ask about his stack before I end up just flatting. I'm sure everyone got the impression I was deciding on either calling or raising.. Sb flats bb says well guess ill do the all in and pushes in 68 total. Mp has about 170 left... What's your play if he shoves/calls/ folds. (don't required to answer the if he folds part, kinda Obv what to do if he folds...
He shoves: I call
He calls: Scary. Use those spidey senses again.
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:47 AM   #432
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In a 1am 1/2 game for 90bb I am not folding qq too often preflop. I guess it depends on sb too, but assuming hes folding to any decision I'm calling the shove, n shipping if he just calls...

Ive been drinking, but if you put in stove 1010 aj+ I got to believe your getting right price with the dead money.

Guessing bb has mid pp or mid ace and since you're running well mp has ak and we win whole pot
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Old 03-22-2012, 05:15 AM   #433
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if passive rarely raising pre mp has AA/KK doesnt he get over excited n shove most of the time? i dunno.. i guess i could see him doin it with ak... doubt he has aq since we hold 2 queens.. AJ doesnt scare us...

if he folds... which is unlikely we're clearly calling the shortys shove.. which i can assume has aces or kings in his hand, but could easily be 99+ also

since he likely has some aces or kings in his hand alot of the time, i think i can worry less bout mp having aces or kings.. but its obviously not outside the realm of possibility..

he could call to induce the shove over with aces.. but could we put that play in his book?

i dunno... calling feels too weak.. cant set mine here profitably.. (assuming opponents arent deep) folding here just gives me a strange feeling even though i feel like somethin here is weird..

i think since they both rarely like raising pre, theres a good chance they're blockin each others ace.. we're only afraid of AA & KK... Queens are no good if they hold aq.. if they both have AK i think its as sweet as it gets

i think i ship it here and expect to be good most of the time with still the possibility of spiking a set if we happen to be wrong.. sb setmining at best i think so non factor

is my thinking ******ed?
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Old 03-22-2012, 05:21 AM   #434
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In a 1am 1/2 game for 90bb I am not folding qq too often preflop. I guess it depends on sb too, but assuming hes folding to any decision I'm calling the shove, n shipping if he just calls...

Ive been drinking, but if you put in stove 1010 aj+ I got to believe your getting right price with the dead money.

Guessing bb has mid pp or mid ace and since you're running well mp has ak and we win whole pot
I don't think this particular guy ever has aj and I think he folds aq to the guys shove
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Old 03-22-2012, 05:22 AM   #435
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if passive rarely raising pre mp has AA/KK doesnt he get over excited n shove most of the time? i dunno.. i guess i could see him doin it with ak... doubt he has aq since we hold 2 queens.. AJ doesnt scare us...

if he folds... which is unlikely we're clearly calling the shortys shove.. which i can assume has aces or kings in his hand, but could easily be 99+ also

since he likely has some aces or kings in his hand alot of the time, i think i can worry less bout mp having aces or kings.. but its obviously not outside the realm of possibility..

he could call to induce the shove over with aces.. but could we put that play in his book?

i dunno... calling feels too weak.. cant set mine here profitably.. (assuming opponents arent deep) folding here just gives me a strange feeling even though i feel like somethin here is weird..

i think since they both rarely like raising pre, theres a good chance they're blockin each others ace.. we're only afraid of AA & KK... Queens are no good if they hold aq.. if they both have AK i think its as sweet as it gets

i think i ship it here and expect to be good most of the time with still the possibility of spiking a set if we happen to be wrong.. sb setmining at best i think so non factor

is my thinking ******ed?
Thinking isn't ******ed but don't give bb that much credit for a hand...
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Old 03-22-2012, 05:33 AM   #436
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ah crap i was tryin to do this from memory since my fn keyboard keeps stickin.. (SODA).... (for real...)

confused sbs reads for bb.. oops!

still dont think it changes my opinion too much.. if im in uber nit mode i fold to mp shove, if not i ship it.. im just not liking folding here, n i feel folding or shipping r our only options.. i still wouldnt be surprised to see an ace n bbs hand...

lessens possibility of aces for mp, but i guess that ups KKs chances... i jus think if mp has a hand he thinks beats small blind he gets it in with anything he thinks beats sb.. i think we have most of that range beat.. i ship eet
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:20 AM   #437
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I don't think this particular guy ever has aj and I think he folds aq to the guys shove
wut

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Old 03-22-2012, 07:37 AM   #438
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shipping QQ in that spot regardless
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Mp ended up folding AK (lol) I ship over to push sb out. Bb show j8dd..
A on flop (2nd lol) I win
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Old 03-22-2012, 11:58 AM   #440
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This whole thread is a joke, right?

I wish you the best of luck for your kids sake but seriously, even with a wife making 33k a year and a 10k bankroll, having two kids kinda trumps that. I am a similiar age with a wife that makes much more than that, hell so do I. I would never subject my family to that lifestyle. You did get robbed for 1800 or whatever over a sports debate, got kicked out of a casino. You are in no shape to be making life changing decisions for your family on such a limited income. You must have some good friends/family to fall back on. I mean NOONE in the right mind would be this big of a degen.

Edit...I don't even have kids... that'd be like me packing up the trunk and heading to Vegas and playing 50/100. It is just unreasonable and destined to fail unless you have more backing you up. Which has to be true. Hell, I had no problem playing 25/50 with my last 5k online cause more is in the bank if I go broke.

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Old 03-22-2012, 12:23 PM   #441
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This whole thread is a joke, right?

I wish you the best of luck for your kids sake but seriously, even with a wife making 33k a year and a 10k bankroll, having two kids kinda trumps that. I am a similiar age with a wife that makes much more than that, hell so do I. I would never subject my family to that lifestyle. You did get robbed for 1800 or whatever over a sports debate, got kicked out of a casino. You are in no shape to be making life changing decisions for your family on such a limited income. You must have some good friends/family to fall back on. I mean NOONE in the right mind would be this big of a degen.

Edit...I don't even have kids... that'd be like me packing up the trunk and heading to Vegas and playing 50/100. It is just unreasonable and destined to fail unless you have more backing you up. Which has to be true. Hell, I had no problem playing 25/50 with my last 5k online cause more is in the bank if I go broke.
GL with the 50/100. Dont forget to make a thread.

IMP, dont think you are ever folding for that little with the blocking cards/extra money out there. If he has 100 more behind it is a much more fun hand and would love to hear your thoughts on it.

How do you think mp plays 99-jj there?

Lol at him folding ak
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Old 03-22-2012, 12:25 PM   #442
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This whole thread is a joke, right?

I wish you the best of luck for your kids sake but seriously, even with a wife making 33k a year and a 10k bankroll, having two kids kinda trumps that. I am a similiar age with a wife that makes much more than that, hell so do I. I would never subject my family to that lifestyle. You did get robbed for 1800 or whatever over a sports debate, got kicked out of a casino. You are in no shape to be making life changing decisions for your family on such a limited income. You must have some good friends/family to fall back on. I mean NOONE in the right mind would be this big of a degen.

Edit...I don't even have kids... that'd be like me packing up the trunk and heading to Vegas and playing 50/100. It is just unreasonable and destined to fail unless you have more backing you up. Which has to be true. Hell, I had no problem playing 25/50 with my last 5k online cause more is in the bank if I go broke.
ffffffffffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggg.....

33k when ur living a modest lifestyle, can take a ways. His kids are small (like won't remember **** small)

Kid is playing 1-2, while owning souls. Will be grinding 2-5 by the series (I bet)

So take ur judgements, and gtfo.
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Old 03-22-2012, 01:12 PM   #443
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I don't think this particular guy ever has aj and I think he folds aq to the guys shove
Why can't he have aj? He raised to 10 pf, is he that tight? Either way I said mp has ak I'll be there tomorrow will pm you n hit up some beer pong n poker.
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Old 03-22-2012, 01:44 PM   #444
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This whole thread is a joke, right?

I wish you the best of luck for your kids sake but seriously, even with a wife making 33k a year and a 10k bankroll, having two kids kinda trumps that. I am a similiar age with a wife that makes much more than that, hell so do I. I would never subject my family to that lifestyle. You did get robbed for 1800 or whatever over a sports debate, got kicked out of a casino. You are in no shape to be making life changing decisions for your family on such a limited income. You must have some good friends/family to fall back on. I mean NOONE in the right mind would be this big of a degen.

Edit...I don't even have kids... that'd be like me packing up the trunk and heading to Vegas and playing 50/100. It is just unreasonable and destined to fail unless you have more backing you up. Which has to be true. Hell, I had no problem playing 25/50 with my last 5k online cause more is in the bank if I go broke.
Of all the "Going to Vegas" threads we've seen this seems like one of the rare ones destined to succeed and if it doesn't it's not because OP didn't give it his best. Sure, he's degened it up a little bit, but all and all not really. I don't see how he is putting his family at risk. I will admit I was a bit nervous upon first seeing the thread, but in addition to crushing 1/2 OP seems to have a good head on his shoulders. I don't know if this is the life he will want "forever" with two kids in Las Vegas. I lived in Vegas for 18 months, and my wife worked in health care and between that and the school system I would have never survived for my kids sake (we are planning on having kids, part of the reason we moved back to VA). However, in the present time OP is chasing a dream, and I know very well what it's like to have a supportive wife behind me. Like OP, she has allowed me to take the "road less traveled."

Sorry if it was too much about me, but - kids, and - the poker skill OP has, I sort of see a lot in common between us.
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Why can't he have aj? He raised to 10 pf, is he that tight? Either way I said mp has ak I'll be there tomorrow will pm you n hit up some beer pong n poker.
Sounds good bro.
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This whole thread is a joke, right?

I wish you the best of luck for your kids sake but seriously, even with a wife making 33k a year and a 10k bankroll, having two kids kinda trumps that. I am a similiar age with a wife that makes much more than that, hell so do I. I would never subject my family to that lifestyle. You did get robbed for 1800 or whatever over a sports debate, got kicked out of a casino. You are in no shape to be making life changing decisions for your family on such a limited income. You must have some good friends/family to fall back on. I mean NOONE in the right mind would be this big of a degen.

Edit...I don't even have kids... that'd be like me packing up the trunk and heading to Vegas and playing 50/100. It is just unreasonable and destined to fail unless you have more backing you up. Which has to be true. Hell, I had no problem playing 25/50 with my last 5k online cause more is in the bank if I go broke.
Omg dude thanks for the amazing Insight. Please please tell me what I should do with my life.. Thanks for reading the first Page of the thread and drawing conclusion, I see no ignorance in that once so ever. Wanna stake me in 50-100?
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:43 PM   #447
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OP glad to see your doing good Vegas will be the town to live in when online poker comes back this year. Just make it to whenever legalization hits. Then you will have the best of both worlds.

Have you tried the aria 1/3 games? I was told the games are deeper at aria.

Don't feed the troll, 50/100 never runs in Vegas. Playing 1/2 is much smaller risk.
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Cool thread. subscribing, GLGL.
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:48 PM   #449
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This whole thread is a joke, right?

I wish you the best of luck for your kids sake but seriously, even with a wife making 33k a year and a 10k bankroll, having two kids kinda trumps that. I am a similiar age with a wife that makes much more than that, hell so do I. I would never subject my family to that lifestyle. You did get robbed for 1800 or whatever over a sports debate, got kicked out of a casino. You are in no shape to be making life changing decisions for your family on such a limited income. You must have some good friends/family to fall back on. I mean NOONE in the right mind would be this big of a degen.

Edit...I don't even have kids... that'd be like me packing up the trunk and heading to Vegas and playing 50/100. It is just unreasonable and destined to fail unless you have more backing you up. Which has to be true. Hell, I had no problem playing 25/50 with my last 5k online cause more is in the bank if I go broke.
You know, I actually do share some of these concerns, but there's no reason to be a dick. OP's taking his shot and it's not like he's got no fallback whatsoever (wife got a big raise coming to Vegas, 33k ain't much for a family of 4 but it can be done), and it seems so far so good with the poker; OP clearly does have some skill and there's no reason he can't move up in time, but he seems to be being smart about staying within his stakes and building up his BR. Would probably be smarter of him to avoid degen stuff and put in more hours, but hell, that applies to damn near everyone, regardless of their job.

If **** goes bad and OP starts behaving like a degen or his poker starts to affect his family for real, I'll be right there with you (though still much less of a dick). Until then IMO STFU.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:07 PM   #450
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No degen stuff will ever happen, and poker will never affect my family in a negative way.. I've already played for a living for a year and everything was great I'm just now on my own. Besides I've already stated I'm an awesome salesman and have jobs back in Sacramento I could always fall back on and also I've already stated if I'm not playing 5,10 by the time I'm 30 I'm done with poker.
The random hate I get from people is pretty funny though, so ohwell more motivation I guess. I appreciate everyone in the thread who told him to go to hell and backed me up, makes me feel even more confident ill succeed

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