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How do low stakes poker players even afford hotels in vegas anymore? How do low stakes poker players even afford hotels in vegas anymore?

04-22-2018 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
Most of the Orleans regs are among the worst I've ever played with in Vegas. If you can't profit at their 1/3 NL, you might as well hang it up. It's mostly underolled locals playing very nitty and too much gamble call down to river with nut flush draw types. The weekend games get pretty good there especially when there's big events at the arena. The Cheerleading competition and Bowling tournaments stand out to me as you get a lot of inexperienced "home game dads" that are there to just splash around on their stay. The better locals are in the 4/8 & 8/16 PLO games. When the BBJ gets big, the locals might as well be playing with their cards face up.
Was there for Cheerleading competition by accident February. Can attest to home game dads losing. Most of the restaurants on the property are super good too. Wife and I had a very fun and profitable weekend.

If I were going to WSOP, this is where I would likely set up my base since the shuttle dumps you across the street at Gold Coast for free, plus you could hit the strip at the High Roller whenever you wanted to do that as well.
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04-28-2018 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat
This! People always say the stack depth determines how big the game plays more than the blinds. Uh...what? So 2/5 uncapped at PH is gonna play bigger than 5/10 Bellagio cause it's only 1500 max?
I won't generalize, but regarding the PH 2/5 specifically I've seen that game play huge. The $20 button straddle is a big part of it, on top of the uncapped buyin. I've also seen $2k+ blind all ins in that game on multiple separate occasions, and I've played there less than 100 hours total I think. Something about that game seems to attract a very special kind of player...
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10-03-2018 , 07:34 PM
So i logged into the total rewards site with my TR card as i haven't been to vegas in many years. Took a look and for example, harrahs is comped for many days in the calendar. I don't plan to go to vegas for a while but if i do, i probably make it a 1 week or 2 week trip max.


But why is is when you book more than 2 nights, you can't do it? Example say wednesday, thursday is comped and then other nights are paid but then weekdays are comped again. Does it have to do with you could only book 2 nights comped and if you want book say 5 nights, you have to do it separately even if you are paying the other 3 nights?


The thing is it shows no offers in my TR offer account. But why does it show comped on many days then? So if you want to book say 10 nights in a row, how would you do this with getting some nights comped? Also even though its comped resort fees seem to be 40 dollars a day. Years ago when i was in vegas, i believe the resort and taxes was like 10% of the trip or 10 dollars a day max right? Was there even any resort fees say back in 2011 or 2012? Or it was just tax. I don't remember but i do recalled when i had comped nights, there were no fees for those days and some days the rest of the week it was like 20-25 dollars only.
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10-03-2018 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
So i logged into the total rewards site with my TR card as i haven't been to vegas in many years. Took a look and for example, harrahs is comped for many days in the calendar. I don't plan to go to vegas for a while but if i do, i probably make it a 1 week or 2 week trip max.


But why is is when you book more than 2 nights, you can't do it? Example say wednesday, thursday is comped and then other nights are paid but then weekdays are comped again. Does it have to do with you could only book 2 nights comped and if you want book say 5 nights, you have to do it separately even if you are paying the other 3 nights?


The thing is it shows no offers in my TR offer account. But why does it show comped on many days then? So if you want to book say 10 nights in a row, how would you do this with getting some nights comped? Also even though its comped resort fees seem to be 40 dollars a day. Years ago when i was in vegas, i believe the resort and taxes was like 10% of the trip or 10 dollars a day max right? Was there even any resort fees say back in 2011 or 2012? Or it was just tax. I don't remember but i do recalled when i had comped nights, there were no fees for those days and some days the rest of the week it was like 20-25 dollars only.
Contact TR and ask them, They will talk to you.
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10-03-2018 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
Most of the Orleans regs are among the worst I've ever played with in Vegas. If you can't profit at their 1/3 NL, you might as well hang it up. It's mostly underolled locals playing very nitty and too much gamble call down to river with nut flush draw types. The weekend games get pretty good there especially when there's big events at the arena. The Cheerleading competition and Bowling tournaments stand out to me as you get a lot of inexperienced "home game dads" that are there to just splash around on their stay. The better locals are in the 4/8 & 8/16 PLO games. When the BBJ gets big, the locals might as well be playing with their cards face up.
The problem is, who wants to play with under-rolled locals playing very nitty ? It would be really boring to bank $12 - $15/hr that way .... I'd rather work for Amazon for $15/hr.

I'll stick to working a business and playing poker where there is some entertainment to be had, either in the game or the players.
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10-05-2018 , 06:56 PM
Well does anyone here do 1-2 week trips or even 1 month trip to vegas anymore due to these resort fees?
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10-05-2018 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
The problem is, who wants to play with under-rolled locals playing very nitty ? It would be really boring to bank $12 - $15/hr that way .... I'd rather work for Amazon for $15/hr.

I'll stick to working a business and playing poker where there is some entertainment to be had, either in the game or the players.

In their 120 Degree warehouse sweat shops?
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10-06-2018 , 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Well does anyone here do 1-2 week trips or even 1 month trip to vegas anymore due to these resort fees?
Nope. And Vegas doesn't want us, either. Their message is loud and clear.
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10-06-2018 , 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Well does anyone here do 1-2 week trips or even 1 month trip to vegas anymore due to these resort fees?
Definitely. Hotel Rooms are still cheaper than in major European cities.

During WSOP we were staying in Planet Hollywood and during weekdays we had to pay only resort fee. Next trip is on November and again weekdays are resort fee only (this time at the Linq).

Last edited by RoyalNets; 10-06-2018 at 04:44 AM.
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10-06-2018 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
In their 120 Degree warehouse sweat shops?
Lol, seriously, amazon (on the manual labor side, at least) is a horrible place to work. Sure, the hourly is more than most unskilled entry level jobs, but getting those hours in is much harder. There isn't downtime like most other jobs, and the breaks they give are insufficient for the way they push you. I only worked there for some time because I get social anxiety and not having to deal with customers was an enormous plus. I have no idea why so many well-adjusted people work there, it's ****ing ******ed. Get any other job.
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10-07-2018 , 09:47 AM
Amazon is building a new warehouse in our town. $15 an hour minus taxes is below the poverty level in the US.

I haven't heard anyone say they enjoyed working a low level job at Amazon.
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10-07-2018 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jcorb
Amazon is building a new warehouse in our town. $15 an hour minus taxes is below the poverty level in the US.

I haven't heard anyone say they enjoyed working a low level job at Amazon.
Don't mourn, organize.
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10-11-2018 , 12:41 PM
I think this thread is very similar to the other threads "Can you make a living at 1/2 NL?"

I mean, if you have no expenses and play super disciplined, maybe you can show a small profit on your trip. But at small stakes with nitty locals, I don't think its a winning proposition.
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05-09-2022 , 02:41 PM
From what i read, lot of people are talking about the high price of vegas hotels now with the wsop.



Was watching some youtube videos in vegas and apparently just one bedroom apartments in vegas cost 1500 dollars average nowadays? So basically people who want to rent for less has to rent a room from someone? Can't believe how high prices has went up even in vegas. How are people affording to even live in vegas? Rent two bedroom for 2k a month and split the rent? Where and how much are the 2/5 nl cash game pros living at then? Can't imagine there is that big of cash game pro player pool at 5/10nl +.



if someone wants to come to vegas for say three months max, rent a room from someone? Renting any short term furnished apartment will cost 2k a month at the absolute minimum right? Remember people said those extended stay places are not only shady but the prices for those are ridiculously high as well.
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05-09-2022 , 03:33 PM
Weird bump, but yes. I was looking at a 3 month stay and even the dump roach motels out on Boulder Highway were wanting over a $1000 a month and I don't think that included a free crack pipe.

The only way to do it at low price is rent a room off craigslist for around $800 or line up several people and get a 3 or 4 bedroom apt and split costs.

But yeah dude. I remember staying in a newly remodeled executive suite downtown back in the day for $24 a night and after 3 nights, the 4th night was free. But that was a back in the day, not now in the present, and I'm not going to post for the next 6 years about what the rates used to be.

Last edited by IQofTwoPlusTwo; 05-09-2022 at 03:50 PM.
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05-09-2022 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by IQofTwoPlusTwo
Weird bump, but yes. I was looking at a 3 month stay and even the dump roach motels out on Boulder Highway were wanting over a $1000 a month and I don't think that included a free crack pipe.
Are you getting decent hotel rooms for less than $1k/month in other major US cities?

For reference, starting salary for full-time employees at Amazon warehouses is >$3k/month these days.

The situation for 1/2 full-time players certainly hasn't improved over the 7 years since this thread was started.
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05-09-2022 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Are you getting decent hotel rooms for less than $1k/month in other major US cities?

For reference, starting salary for full-time employees at Amazon warehouses is >$3k/month these days.

The situation for 1/2 full-time players certainly hasn't improved over the 7 years since this thread was started.
Apartment rents in Las Vegas were reportedly up 40% over the last two years. (The article was a national survey and Las Vegas was only slightly above the general rise over the last two years. I think it was in USA Today.)

The bigger barrier you may face is, "who rents to poker players?"
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05-09-2022 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
Don't mourn, organize.
Apparently, the Las Vegas Amazon starting pay is up signifcantly from what was reprted a few years back.

Possibly, the successful union organizing campaign at Amazon in New York has had an impact ?
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05-09-2022 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Are you getting decent hotel rooms for less than $1k/month in other major US cities?
I wouldn't call anything on Boulder Highway decent. Just pointing out that if you are trying to go the motel/hotel route even the absolute bottom of the barrel is over budget.

It is all part of the Great Reset. When $150k houses sell for $390k and $800 apartments are $2000, the $30 hotel rooms are naturally now $69.95 + fees.

The only thing that has remained the same is that in 1/2 NL Hold 'Em the blinds are $1 and $2 and Old Man Coffee is collecting an hourly comp nursing his short stack waiting for Aces.
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05-09-2022 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
The bigger barrier you may face is, "who rents to poker players?"
I had never trouble finding an apartment when poker was my main source of income.

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Originally Posted by IQofTwoPlusTwo
I wouldn't call anything on Boulder Highway decent. Just pointing out that if you are trying to go the motel/hotel route even the absolute bottom of the barrel is over budget.
And if your dinner budget is $0.50 you can't even eat ramen noodles anymore.
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05-09-2022 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh

The bigger barrier you may face is, "who rents to poker players?"
Pay your entire lease up front and it won’t matter.
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05-09-2022 , 10:41 PM
Meh, if you can't afford a nice trip, you should probably prioritize your money and not play??????

Just sayin is all.
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05-09-2022 , 11:53 PM
I was looking for 3 specific nights, and it was $750. I'm shocked I tell you.
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05-10-2022 , 06:07 AM
Are there any safe, clean and cheap long stay options near the strip?
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05-15-2022 , 08:43 PM
I just glanced at BnB for Vegas today, and there seemed to be some reasonable, but not dirt-cheap rates.
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