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02-22-2018 , 03:23 AM
Diamond status would be so +EV for him; free lounge food and spa/gym access. Perhaps he already has it, but wanted to downplay this so as not to draw attention to himself even more so than parking in Caesars owned casino garages.
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02-22-2018 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ZenRabbit
Diamond status would be so +EV for him; free lounge food and spa/gym access. Perhaps he already has it, but wanted to downplay this so as not to draw attention to himself even more so than parking in Caesars owned casino garages.
Yeah if I was him I would be playing as much as possible at like Caesars and Bally's to get the Dimond they treat you so well and once you get it you have it for a long time
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02-22-2018 , 10:45 AM
Even with the most minimal of play at different properties he could leverage 4-5 good meals a week. Station Casinos will typically give you one free buffet a week, and table/slot play at Palms gives you one per week for Palms in addition to the other properties. The same for Boyd Properties, South Point and play at Caesars.
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02-22-2018 , 01:27 PM
How much poker play does it take to earn 15k tier credits for diamond? It also says in the fine print you actually need 25k or you may be charged for entry to the diamond lounge.

A quick google search showed that at one point 1/2 was paying 17 points/hr, which would take 882 hrs, which could take a year or so to do and longer to hit 25k to use the lounge for free. Doesn't seem worth it unless you were already going to be devoting 100% of your poker hours to total rewards casinos.

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02-22-2018 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
Even with the most minimal of play at different properties he could leverage 4-5 good meals a week. Station Casinos will typically give you one free buffet a week, and table/slot play at Palms gives you one per week for Palms in addition to the other properties. The same for Boyd Properties, South Point and play at Caesars.
Playing any limit at the Orleans pays $1.60 per hour in buffet credits applicable to all Boyd properties. Breakfast at the Suncoast and Gold Coast are $7.99. Made to order omelettes, lots of fruits, hash browns, cereal, bacon, ham, sausage, chicken fried steak, pancakes, unlimited drinks, etc.
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02-22-2018 , 01:44 PM
Also Gold tier & up at stations give you 50% off buffet Mon-Thurs. $4.50 out the door is grand theft for the breakfast buffet at Red Rock. That's cheaper than 2 Jumbo Jack's at $1.89 each and a small drink.
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02-22-2018 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
I think it is pretty evident we didn't get the entire story, but the kid seems like an ok sort to me and I'll continue to root for him.

Yeah he probably lied, but it didn't personally affect me so I'm ready to move on..
This is the way I feel also. He probably lied to get out of living another lie. As long as he isn't trying to scam anyone I don't see any real harm. I hope he learns it is easier to be honest rather than weave a complicated mess of lies.

I enjoyed his last video. Of course living out of one's car isn't the life 99.99% of the 2+2 population would choose, but I don't think his point was to convince anyone otherwise.

I wish him the best of luck!
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02-22-2018 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ipuntstacks
ths is true -- bikeking , if you wanan come to LA you can park at my place, wash there and even use tv when im not around. i'm close to some major card rooms. maybe even will buy action. worse case walk the beach all day - and get out of the ****hole vegas for a few weeks. i'll def. temp you with hookers and blow though, would proabbly help your vlog.
LA casinos are the worst for 1-2 NLH. Restricted 20 BB buy-in with a $5 rake. Don't know about San Diego, but he definitely shouldn't come to LA for 1-2 NLH.
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02-22-2018 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JoseJohnnyJimJack
LA casinos are the worst for 1-2 NLH. Restricted 20 BB buy-in with a $5 rake. Don't know about San Diego, but he definitely shouldn't come to LA for 1-2 NLH.
Apparently California has a Drop not a rake. Meaning if there is a flop all 5-7 dollars comes out immediately. Bart Hansen was discussing it last night on the stream. That would be impossible to beat at low stakes.
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02-22-2018 , 02:52 PM
For the amount of low buy in daily tournaments with guarantees, Vegas is the place for a low level grinder. Planet Hollywood still runs their $1500GTD 4-5 times a day for $80. The fields are so incredibly soft that a decent player should have no problem cashing this daily. With $900 avg for first, that gives the low limit grinder a nice cushion for cash buy ins. Plus if you can get there for the 9am, you're playing a 2table tournament for the same GTD on most days. The other Caesars properties have some decent ones for even a lower buy in than $80.

It's one of the best way for underrolled grinders to limit risk and gain experience over hours of play. Plus, since he doesn't have a place to stay, it's a good way to start the day, get out of your car and have a more structured approach to bankroll building. For months I grinded those in the morning/early afternoon hours, then took a break in the late afternoon hours before a cash session at night if I didn't hit my goal of +$600/day (two chops at 9am & 12pm was usually $300-500 each).
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02-22-2018 , 04:33 PM
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Apparently California has a Drop not a rake. Meaning if there is a flop all 5-7 dollars comes out immediately. Bart Hansen was discussing it last night on the stream. That would be impossible to beat at low stakes.
Oh ok. Thanks. I keep forgetting the difference.
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02-22-2018 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
Also Gold tier & up at stations give you 50% off buffet Mon-Thurs. $4.50 out the door is grand theft for the breakfast buffet at Red Rock. That's cheaper than 2 Jumbo Jack's at $1.89 each and a small drink.
Just checked my wallet, and ... YES! I have gold status, and that's with very little play at Station's props. I hadn't heard about the 1/2 price buffet, so, ty. And, yes, RR buffet is pretty good, much better than Orleans.

ZenR: I was actually going to make the same point. BK should def focus on playing at C's. 735 hour to get Diamond Lounge access, but, as you know better than I do, there are 1k bonuses for staying at C's properties. Rio and Bally's are often <$25/night on Sun-Thur, and BK would prob appreciated the night, too. Also, that 735 hours should earn a bit more than 1k in rakeback at GGWU, and cheap/free rooms, which can be sold for cash, and line pass privileges. I'm not personally going to Diamond grind any more, but anyone trying to build up a roll should make it a priority.
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02-22-2018 , 06:37 PM
The Orleans does serve very good brisket at breakfast that they smoke for 18 hrs. That's some of the best brisket I've ever had for a buffet, at the Orleans specifically. I did a keto/low carb diet over 7 months last year where I went from 248 (April) to 185 present day eating buffet brunch & breakfast 3-4 times a week. It kept grocery costs down and I got to eat all the bacon and smoked meats that I wanted. The Orleans buffet is no slouch for the value, but the Red Rock is far and away the best value buffet in Vegas.

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02-22-2018 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
For the amount of low buy in daily tournaments with guarantees, Vegas is the place for a low level grinder. Planet Hollywood still runs their $1500GTD 4-5 times a day for $80. The fields are so incredibly soft that a decent player should have no problem cashing this daily. With $900 avg for first, that gives the low limit grinder a nice cushion for cash buy ins. Plus if you can get there for the 9am, you're playing a 2table tournament for the same GTD on most days. The other Caesars properties have some decent ones for even a lower buy in than $80.

It's one of the best way for underrolled grinders to limit risk and gain experience over hours of play. Plus, since he doesn't have a place to stay, it's a good way to start the day, get out of your car and have a more structured approach to bankroll building. For months I grinded those in the morning/early afternoon hours, then took a break in the late afternoon hours before a cash session at night if I didn't hit my goal of +$600/day (two chops at 9am & 12pm was usually $300-500 each).
I agree 100%. If I was a low level grinder in Las Vegas, I would focus on the $500-$2,500 guaranteed tournaments, rather than 1/2 cash games.

Bally's, Planet Hollywood, Flamingo, Mirage, Treasure Island, etc.

The 11:00 am and 7:00 pm MGM Tournaments are another one with a nice guarantee that is often an overlay with very weak fields..
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02-22-2018 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by foatie
The Orleans does serve very good brisket at breakfast that they smoke for 18 hrs. That's some of the best brisket I've ever had for a buffet, at the Orleans specifically. I did a keto/low carb diet over 7 months last year where I went from 248 (April) to 185 present day eating buffet brunch & breakfast 3-4 times a week. It kept grocery costs down and I got to eat all the bacon and smoked meats that I wanted. The Orleans buffet is no slouch for the value, but the Red Rock is far and away the best value buffet in Vegas.

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Another under-rated buffet that is good value is the Main Street Station, downtown..make sure to show your B Connected Card..
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02-22-2018 , 07:27 PM
Well it looks like his profile increasing: https://twitter.com/bikeking_19/stat...88329051074560

Andrew Pieper‏
@bikeking_19
Still unsure what went wrong for me to get an invitation, but omw to Hollywood to attend the #AmericanPokerAwards for what should make for an epic vlog.
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02-22-2018 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
I agree 100%. If I was a low level grinder in Las Vegas, I would focus on the $500-$2,500 guaranteed tournaments, rather than 1/2 cash games.

Bally's, Planet Hollywood, Flamingo, Mirage, Treasure Island, etc.

The 11:00 am and 7:00 pm MGM Tournaments are another one with a nice guarantee that is often an overlay with very weak fields..
Rake's too damned high.

21 bucks rake for the 80 buy-in in Planet Hollywood. Of course, the typical players don't even understand the gap concept. Nor do they know when to start doing the push/fold instead of standard raising. These are massive flaws that are almost the norm but can a knowledgeable player overcome the rake despite these?
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02-22-2018 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Outoftime44444
Well it looks like his profile increasing: https://twitter.com/bikeking_19/stat...88329051074560

Andrew Pieper‏
@bikeking_19
Still unsure what went wrong for me to get an invitation, but omw to Hollywood to attend the #AmericanPokerAwards for what should make for an epic vlog.
Surprised they don't have the ceremony in Vegas.
Not sure I'd be taking this trip if I was bike and risk car trouble/flat tire on low cash. Good luck to him.
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02-22-2018 , 09:30 PM
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Rake's too damned high.

21 bucks rake for the 80 buy-in in Planet Hollywood. Of course, the typical players don't even understand the gap concept. Nor do they know when to start doing the push/fold instead of standard raising. These are massive flaws that are almost the norm but can a knowledgeable player overcome the rake despite these?
My graph and a few others in my text group would say hell yes. There's literally 2-3 people in any of these low level MTT's that have a firm understanding of ICM and turbo tournament strategy. At that Orleans Friday tournament that regularly draws 150-200 entries every week, I see the same 15-20 guys regularly making the money every week over the 4 years that I've played them. It's not just run good.

I think BK has the potential to carve out a little niche for himself in these.
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02-24-2018 , 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
I agree 100%. If I was a low level grinder in Las Vegas, I would focus on the $500-$2,500 guaranteed tournaments, rather than 1/2 cash games.

Bally's, Planet Hollywood, Flamingo, Mirage, Treasure Island, etc.

The 11:00 am and 7:00 pm MGM Tournaments are another one with a nice guarantee that is often an overlay with very weak fields..
I did the same when I stayed in Vegas for 3 weeks. Treasure Island had some great tourneys with low buy-ins. Easy way to build a roll if you stay focused. After winning at TI , I headed over to Mirage to play 1/2 nl. Just wait for the drunk players around the tables and with some luck you can triple up within 2 hours.
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02-24-2018 , 08:47 PM
I think the various suggestions about using the comps for the breakfast buffets (made to order omelettes, lots of fruits, cereal, etc.) have the potential to add some healthy food to the BikeKings diet. From watching his recent Vlog, the diet seems to be the weakest link.
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02-25-2018 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by GaminDeBuci
I think the various suggestions about using the comps for the breakfast buffets (made to order omelettes, lots of fruits, cereal, etc.) have the potential to add some healthy food to the BikeKings diet. From watching his recent Vlog, the diet seems to be the weakest link.
I would love to see BikeKing release a vlog in the future where we see him going to a breakfast buffet and mentioning that he got the idea from this thread.
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02-25-2018 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
Yeah it seemed to be a very un-glamorous look at the homeless lifestyle. And it seems like he's wasting his time if he's trying to lift to gain weight. You gotta eat a lot which costs money which he either doesn't have or doesn't want to spend.
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Also, his diet is horrible. A can of pineapple slices, 2 jumbo jacks, an occasional ice tea at Starbucks, and some pizza? This is probably low on the calorie count and that is why he is so skinny but the quality of the calories are horrible. This is the main problem. Is he chugging protein shakes to bulk up or to just hit a minimum daily calorie intake?
I was surprised at the number of supplements he was taking. I think he shouldn’t bother with most of them. I’m curious about the exercises he does but he doesn’t seem to want to get into that. I’m not hating on him; I’m just curious. I’ve watched almost none of his stuff but the latest video was interesting.
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02-25-2018 , 12:24 PM
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I would love to see BikeKing release a vlog in the future where we see him going to a breakfast buffet and mentioning that he got the idea from this thread.
BikeKing's next vlog

10:37 a.m. , post gym shower ... BK drives to the Orleans

"So, I use daily comps to get this $4.50 buffet ... really +EV, especially if I can get 1500+ calories from this meal. The price also will allow me to splurge on a Starbucks iced tea an extra day this week."

12:22 p.m.

"Going to work on the vlog a little bit. Got some good panos and also a couple good clips of the buffet. Going to film opening a can of pineapple to cap things off."

2:30 p.m.

Walks out of Starbucks ... stares longingly at the Jack in the Box. "Soon" Bikeking things to himself.

2:55 p.m.

"Here I am in my living room (back of prius) watching some movies ... this is how we do entertainment. Got my sunshade up in order to be undetectable by Bally's security."

5:38 p.m.

"Checking out Bravo. Lot's of 1-2NL action going on ... time to stack some donks."

11:13 p.m.

"Won $42 ... just boosted my bankroll by 13 percent. Time for bed guys, until tomorrow!"

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02-25-2018 , 04:56 PM
It might be one day , it might be never but
I want to hear the REAL Punta Cana story.

I think it would be interesting as whatever happened turned into
one lie after another.

Good luck there BK.



I lied about something similar when I was younger in order to explain away some very degenerate loses. The lie seemed better than the shame of admitting how much I f'd up. It was better for friends and family to feel sorry for me about a "theft" rather than feel sorry for me being a sick degen.

Some people had doubts but so long as I never admitted it then they couldnt prove anything, despite how illogical my story was. I would admit to it this day but no one has bothered to bring it up again(over 25 years ago it happened.)
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