Hi all,

Just came back from a trip to Vegas and had a few interesting conversations with fellow punters there about the benefits of casino credit.

I simply withdrew money in town and played with that, but I spoke with 2 other gamblers (separately) who were explaining that they were given free rooms and some comps when they came because they are taking casino credit.

Is this a common thing? And is there negotiations that happen with this that happens with a host?

Otherwise where in the process does it come up? If I just apply online with Caesar’s for a 15k credit limit will they just say “select one of X rooms to stay in” or what?

Just curious how this aspect of things work, because next time I’d rather get a marker for 10-15k and get some free **** instead of paying extortionate resort fees and
withdraw cash from the bank.

Thanks!

You could always try it and find out. If you get approved, you don't have to take any money out.

Read Whale Hunt in the Desert by Steve Cyr. If your play is big enough, aside from comps you can get loss rebates as well as airfare. You can negotiate (according to Cyr) all kinds of things up front.

You need to apply at each casino you want a marker at. It's a lot like applying for any other credit...you'll be giving them all of your personal information including ss# and financial records. For an example, go to the Wynn site and look at their credit application.

If you're asking for a $15k marker, you need to have that amount in your bank account. You then either write a check to the casino or authorize them to initiate an ACH withdrawal for that amount.

Once approved, you then get chips (or tito's for slots) from the cage up to the amount of your marker and gamble to your hearts content.

At the end of your stay you pay back the marker using chips from your winnings or tell them to process the check/ach.

If you're playing w/ $15k on a trip to Vegas, you should probably already have a host. Or be at a players card level that gives you 'free stuff' like room comps and waived resort fees.

Main reason I am asking if casino credit can help with free stuff is because I haven't gotten a host or even any good freebies by just playing higher stakes and using players cards. I've always stayed and played at Caesars properties (and done a lot of activities there) and their attribution of TC's and RC's is shocking in my experience (even just with technical issues - EG: rooms not getting credited) and yeah minimal freebies too for me (not sure if being international is a factor).

I think i just gamble too fast, I'd rather play 10 hands of blackjack at $1k/hand than 100 hands of blackjack at $100/hand. Maybe that is not conducive to automated offers or hosts reaching out, and table games are so inconsistent as it is with attribution. If just getting a marker for the money I would burn anyway will help me to unlock comps easier, I would prefer to take that path.


Perhaps next time I am in town I should just try to replicate the same behavior at another property and see if they are more generous.

It all depends on where you play and how much you play. 10k at Cesars Palace won’t get you too much at 1k bet unless you run it up and play a couple of hours. The same 10k at lower tier properties will definitely get you noticed but again depends on how much you play.

To give you an example, they rated me at 16 hours with $300 average bet and that got me $300 in resort fees and tax removed from my bill at checkout above my 4 nights comp + $350 food credit + $200 free play.

Sadly for blackjack you have to play a shitton, if you want good offers and stuff like that your best bet is VP or slots.

What level are you actually playing and for how long?

10 hands of 1000 a hand isn't going to get you anything at a strip casino. The ev of that is about 50 dollars for the house.

It might get you a free room for the night or dinner at a smaller off strip property if a host has leeway but not much more than that.

Yeah the 10 hands of 1k a hand was just to illustrate i play higher for shorter times than lower for longer.

My last trip for a week or so, an average day might be:

- 2x 1 hour sessions of pai gow @ $50-$200/hand

- 1x 3-4 hour poker session (highest stake I can get a seat at)

- 4x 20 min blackjack sessions @ $1k/hand (usually tilting after poker or pai gow ) typically solo table in high limit room

- + maybe 10 mins a day on slots $3-$5 spins


so I easily go through 15k + in a trip. Pai gow granted you push a lot but BJ can be volatile

Also idk if it’s a factor but this would typically be spread across different casinos (still all Caesar’s) across the week and day.

EG: Mondays at Caesars Palace has Omaha mixed games (Big O/Ultimate Ultimate/dbl board hilo). So might do 2x bj and 1x poker session there, then walk back to Paris for few hours Pai gow and tilted blackjack ��

Next day might be poker and pai gow @ Ballys during the day, with a blackjack session before/after at Paris, then more BJ at Cromwell before going to Drais at night.

What tier are you at with Caesars Rewards?

If you're wanting more offers, take some of that blackjack money and play slots for more than ten minutes. And up your spin to the $7-$10 range. If you time it with a tier credit multiplier day you'll possibly move up a level.

Yeah sadly that’s nothing. Apart from the 16 hour blackjack I also had around $60 000 coin-in on VP and my comps actually DECREASED:



The thing is, $1k a hand for $10k is pretty bad for the casino at blackjack, same with Pai Gow. It’s not really like they want you back.

just saying, if you are going to gamble/lose an extra $1000+ so you might get offers for a few free nights, you should probably just pay for the room

Muck speaks the truth. They count the coin-in that goes through the machine, whether it takes 8 hours or 8 minutes. Besides, vp is a lot more exciting than blackjack. You might win 10 grand in one push!

Ain't that right, Muck?

Reminds me of the paradox/principle that if you had $1,000 to gamble with in Vegas, your better off making a single $1,000 bet than you are making n>1 smaller bets. Of course, walking in, putting $1,000 on the pass line and then never gambling again is not very much fun. But the longer you play, the probability of leaving a winner diminishes quickly.

The casino wants the second type of player who is going to bet their $1,000 over 800 slot pulls or hands of VP, or over several hundred hands of blackjack.

Yeah this is very true, I am more likely to get torched in longer sessions.

Anyway I’m not gambling for comps, I will play like this at this level anyway, and I don’t want to adjust how I play just to chase freebies, but I am happy to adjust how I get the chips in my hand if I can get free stuff from it.

I am just unsure through what mechanism the comps come with credit, or if it is even true

You indicate you play at a solo table in a high limit room. Why not just ask the host who is watching the room about "free things".

Not sure why you focused on "markers' as such if you are not interested in such credit play


(This is not directed at you, but foreign players who take out a marker at a Nevad casino should honor their marker if they plan to return to the US. Reneging on a casino marker is considered to be writing bad check in Nevada. If the casino wants to get aggressive and sue should someone refuse to pay or bounce a payment, the defaulting player could get a surprise at US immigration.)

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