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09-28-2023 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
Not sure what all the whingeing is about as all the 2+2 regulars that live in LV should be taking advantage of the weaker games.
Assuming this is even true, and assuming it is even possible to get to the strip, F1 and related stuff has added about 200-300 hours of traffic time to my regular driving. So basically, it's been a month of full time work bending over for F1. Except, as the track is tax payer funded, this is a job that I am paying to do.

Having an extra fish or 2 in your games over the weekend isn't going to make up for that.

There might be a couple people pretending otherwise, but it's been an absolute disaster. Look at Vegas SM accounts. These are people who make their living primarily by saying how great Vegas is and hyping all the good stuff about it.

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09-28-2023 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
Not sure what all the whingeing is about as all the 2+2 regulars that live in LV should be taking advantage of the weaker games.
Nobody really knows for sure what the games will be like and Vegas has tons of other events during the year that are far less disruptive, like the Super Bowl for example.

Weaker games are nice when they happen but if you have somewhere to be by a certain time, the traffic can be very frustrating.

Even Trooper has mentioned being annoyed/frustrated and he doesn’t even have a job or go to any events or have reservations anywhere nice, etc. And I’m not even trying to hate on him, just saying if even in his situation it’s frustrating, imagine how much more frustrating it is for others.
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09-28-2023 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wsopfinaltable
Any idea where I can buy one of those ? (The sticker, not the car)
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09-28-2023 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Ugh. Wonder why they did that. It's not going to be hot in November.
Seemed like it had something to do with the dudes driving around being able to see
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09-28-2023 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Ugh. Wonder why they did that. It's not going to be hot in November.
Not sure what the *official* reason is but they picked relatively late Saturday night (10PM PT) instead of the regular Sunday slots to have the race at 7AM CET (Sunday morning) for TV viewers in Europe.

Obviously kinda inconvenient for people on the East Coast where the race starts at 1AM.
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09-28-2023 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ES2
Assuming this is even true, and assuming it is even possible to get to the strip, F1 and related stuff has added about 200-300 hours of traffic time to my regular driving. So basically, it's been a month of full time work bending over for F1. Except, as the track is tax payer funded, this is a job that I am paying to do.

Having an extra fish or 2 in your games over the weekend isn't going to make up for that.
I think it will be better than that. But the event is all about the money that will generate for the LV economy. And judging by all the other F1 races in the world they seem to come out in front. Yes there will be the usual people complaining about the inconvenience of holding it and the perceived lack of benefits versus costs but in the end it will be a net positive for the city.
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09-28-2023 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Seemed like it had something to do with the dudes driving around being able to see
I assumed it was this. Is there really another answer?
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09-28-2023 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Randall Stevens
I assumed it was this. Is there really another answer?
Now I realize he was talking about it being a night race

But that part seemed like a no brainer because it’s Vegas
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09-28-2023 , 07:10 PM
Bright lights are better for television camera/coverage?
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09-28-2023 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AzOther1
Bright lights are better for television camera/coverage?
I assumed it was better while driving hundreds of miles an hour.
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09-29-2023 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
I think it will be better than that. But the event is all about the money that will generate for the LV economy. And judging by all the other F1 races in the world they seem to come out in front. Yes there will be the usual people complaining about the inconvenience of holding it and the perceived lack of benefits versus costs but in the end it will be a net positive for the city.
Publicly funded sports stadia are a flat earth issue. Meaning, it's been studied and every expert agrees on the answer. Every economist who doesn't work for lobbyists will tell you they are losing deals for cities.

It's not that surprising if you take away all the spin. Why WOULD it be a good idea to put up the capital for someone else's business, and they keep all the profits? How about you stake me to play HS poker? If we lose we lose. If I win, I keep all profits as well as the stake, but you can give me an uber ride from the casino, or I'll come eat in your restaurant. If anyone is interested, PM me.

Anyway, like flat earth it seems silly on it's face, and the data and research all confirm that.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/s...orth-the-cost/


Obviously, F1 isn't a team stadium, but the differences seem to make it worse. Sports teams do at least have maybe a couple hundred full time employees, and a few hundred part time jobs. They might sustain a sports bar or few restaurants. F1 is 3 days.

If the average person spends 40 hours in F1 traffic, and their time is worth $25/hr, with 2 million residents that's a couple billion dollars in time down the drain. Those are really conservative estimates, IMO, especially when you consider the additional stress and cost of being late for work, missing time with your family, etc.

Everyone who drives for a living: uber, taxis, limos, has gotten totally wrecked for months.

Lastly, if some Duke from Monico dumps $10 million at the tables in MGM, that benefits MGM shareholders. Not the Vegas residents who are having their time, money and resources stolen.
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09-29-2023 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ES2

Lastly, if some Duke from Monico dumps $10 million at the tables in MGM, that benefits MGM shareholders. Not the Vegas residents who are having their time, money and resources stolen.
Monaco is ruled by a Prince not a Duke. I highly doubt he's going to Vegas for the F1 race. You sound bitter.
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09-29-2023 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Monaco is ruled by a Prince not a Duke. I highly doubt he's going to Vegas for the F1 race. You sound bitter.
Oh, I'm bitter baby! As are many, if not most people who live here.

This crap has cut my hourly income by... IDK, 25% maybe, for months. I'm trying to be conservative but the personal cost to me is def. 5 figures.

It's a lot more frustrating because it is due to brazen corruption. If there was some natural disaster, that's life. The fact that local politicians consciously decided to completely eff virtually everyone who lives here in exchange for whatever kickbacks they got makes it a lot more frustrating.

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09-29-2023 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ES2

It's a lot more frustrating because it is due to brazen corruption. If there was some natural disaster, that's life. The fact that local politicians consciously decided to completely eff virtually everyone who lives here in exchange for whatever kickbacks they got makes it a lot more frustrating.
The casinos will be making big money during that time with all the super rich tourists that will come to watch the event. You should do yourself a favour and book yourself into one of those casinos and have the week off from work and make some big money on the tables.
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09-29-2023 , 06:56 PM
I think they did a crappy job of initial planning. Probably left out alot of small logistic details and have to react to each new annoyance that pops up. FIA also has probably given them an updated list of this-that, these-those that need to be done.

The city is in too deep and have no choice but oblige to setup the event on how F1 pleases. The event will take place for a few years, hope next year they’ll be smarter.

March Madness is weeks and causes no public disturbance, Olympics is a couple weeks, World Cup is a months, F1 race week is Wed-Sun only. They best deliver the big bucks to the city in that short period.
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09-29-2023 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ES2
Oh, I'm bitter baby! As are many, if not most people who live here.

This crap has cut my hourly income by... IDK, 25% maybe, for months. I'm trying to be conservative but the personal cost to me is def. 5 figures.

It's a lot more frustrating because it is due to brazen corruption. If there was some natural disaster, that's life. The fact that local politicians consciously decided to completely eff virtually everyone who lives here in exchange for whatever kickbacks they got makes it a lot more frustrating.

What seats did you get? Where are you going to be watching the race?
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10-02-2023 , 03:14 AM
Does anyone know if there is access from the "inside" part of the track to outside? Not during practice or the race, obv, but when the course is shut down? For example, if I'm staying at the Venetian, can I get to the other side of the strip or interstate? Or would I be prisoner for 3 days?
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10-02-2023 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Ugh. Wonder why they did that. It's not going to be hot in November.
TV. All about the glitz, glamour and Neon for Vegas.

The vision is all of the lights on, fountains with the lights etc. Vegas just doesn't look good at 10am on a Sunday morning to the usual F1 fan.
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10-02-2023 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Does anyone know if there is access from the "inside" part of the track to outside? Not during practice or the race, obv, but when the course is shut down? For example, if I'm staying at the Venetian, can I get to the other side of the strip or interstate? Or would I be prisoner for 3 days?
As far as I'm aware the bridge to Wynn will still be open and apparently there's several temporary bridges being installed for foot traffic.
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10-04-2023 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SenatorKevin
As far as I'm aware the bridge to Wynn will still be open and apparently there's several temporary bridges being installed for foot traffic.
I meant by car.
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10-05-2023 , 12:57 AM
Discounted seats as low as $200 for Nevada residents.

Are they getting desperate to fill seats for TV?

https://www.fox5vegas.com/2023/10/04...ada-residents/
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10-05-2023 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BadLieutenant
Discounted seats as low as $200 for Nevada residents.

Are they getting desperate to fill seats for TV?

https://www.fox5vegas.com/2023/10/04...ada-residents/
I would not even go if the seats were free, and I suspect most residents feel exactly the same way I do.

We're not too pleased with Formula 1.
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10-05-2023 , 02:36 AM
Wow, practice at midnight. Nobody near the Strip is going to get much sleep during those 3 days. Those cars are loud.
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10-05-2023 , 11:20 AM
200$ is really a decent price for general admin... I am still not going to face that mob though.
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10-05-2023 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TrueAlbatross
I would not even go if the seats were free, and I suspect most residents feel exactly the same way I do.

We're not too pleased with Formula 1.
Oh I would go

Would seem silly not to, might as well enjoy the race. No matter your feelings on dealing with prep or other stuff it’s going to be quite an event
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