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06-03-2016 , 01:57 AM
Only if the expected value of the safe's contents outweighs the utility of use of the safe while you're there.
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06-03-2016 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by drbeechwood
On my last visit to Treasure Island, I was checking in and tried to put something in the safe. It was locked. So I called Security and they sent up a woman to unlock it. I said to her, if there's money in there, let's split it 50/50. She was non-committal of course. So she gets it open... and there's a white bank envelope in there...

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We take it out and inside we find....

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that it's empty.



Now in retrospect, I should have waited a day, then said that I forgot my code, and then claim anything for myself. Right?
What a way to slowroll the next greedy guest - stuff an envelope full of kleenex and leave it in the locked safe.
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06-03-2016 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
What a way to slowroll the next greedy guest - stuff an envelope full of kleenex and leave it in the locked safe.
LOL, that's an awesome idea.
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06-03-2016 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
What a way to slowroll the next greedy guest - stuff an envelope full of kleenex and leave it in the locked safe.
Well that's kind of what it felt like! Who leaves an empty envelope in a locked safe?
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06-03-2016 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 8ballJunkie
Only if the expected value of the safe's contents outweighs the utility of use of the safe while you're there.
Being this was TI, I'd take the under on the expected value of the safe's contents.
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06-03-2016 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
Being this was TI, I'd take the under on the expected value of the safe's contents.
"The Mystery of Al Capone's Vaults"
http://www.geraldo.com/page/al-capone-s-vault
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_My...one%27s_Vaults
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06-03-2016 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by drbeechwood
On my last visit to Treasure Island, I was checking in and tried to put something in the safe. It was locked. So I called Security and they sent up a woman to unlock it. I said to her, if there's money in there, let's split it 50/50. She was non-committal of course. So she gets it open...
Question: how did she get the safe open? Did she have to drill it or did she have some code over ride, a key?
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06-04-2016 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by LuckyTxGuy
Question: how did she get the safe open? Did she have to drill it or did she have some code over ride, a key?
Some code entry sequence, if I recall correctly.
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06-04-2016 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by drbeechwood
Some code entry sequence, if I recall correctly.
Someday someone will plant a camera pointing toward the keypad, "forget" the safe combo, and shoulder-surf the master password when they come to open it.
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06-04-2016 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by drbeechwood
Some code entry sequence, if I recall correctly.
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Originally Posted by eobmtns
Someday someone will plant a camera pointing toward the keypad, "forget" the safe combo, and shoulder-surf the master password when they come to open it.
That's why I asked. I always figured there was some master code to get in these safes. What that means is, your valuables are safe up to the point of the honesty of employees with that master code. One ticked off employee that gets fired and knows the code and the "secret" is no longer safe.

If a cleaning maid ever got that code think about how easy it would be to steal and not get caught. A dumb thief would open the safe and steal an iPad or jewelry. A smart thief would look for cash and take a small amount. Say you've got $1,000 in there and they take $50 or $100. You'd count it later and figure you must have miscounted it. You'd never think that someone opened the safe and only stole a small percentage of the money. Even if you were 100% sure how much money you had in there, how unconvincing is your story going to be when you tell the hotel manager that you had $1,000 and now you only have $900 or $950?

The good news is most thieves are greedy and dumb and they will steal it all which gives your story a little more believability. Not that the hotel will do much but a couple stories like that and they might at least investigate.
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06-04-2016 , 03:22 PM
I'm gonna take a complete shot in the dark here, but......

These are electronic safes. I would imagine that a log is kept of when the safe was opened and what code was used and only the highest level of security personnel would have access to this information. And each lower level employee with a 'master' code to get into the safe may be different and specific to that employee, so they can track which employee opened it. Also think these codes could be changed at anytime.

I mean, think about how seamlessly they change the codes for key cards to gain access to the room. Same thing for the safes, just at a much higher security level.
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06-04-2016 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CowboyCold
I'm gonna take a complete shot in the dark here, but......

These are electronic safes. I would imagine that a log is kept of when the safe was opened and what code was used and only the highest level of security personnel would have access to this information. And each lower level employee with a 'master' code to get into the safe may be different and specific to that employee, so they can track which employee opened it. Also think these codes could be changed at anytime.

I mean, think about how seamlessly they change the codes for key cards to gain access to the room. Same thing for the safes, just at a much higher security level.
Well, that's a nice thought but I doubt it happens. Otherwise you would hear as much about thieves being caught as you do about the burglaries.

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Originally Posted by LuckyTxGuy
That's why I asked. I always figured there was some master code to get in these safes. What that means is, your valuables are safe up to the point of the honesty of employees with that master code. One ticked off employee that gets fired and knows the code and the "secret" is no longer safe.

If a cleaning maid ever got that code think about how easy it would be to steal and not get caught. A dumb thief would open the safe and steal an iPad or jewelry. A smart thief would look for cash and take a small amount. Say you've got $1,000 in there and they take $50 or $100. You'd count it later and figure you must have miscounted it. You'd never think that someone opened the safe and only stole a small percentage of the money. Even if you were 100% sure how much money you had in there, how unconvincing is your story going to be when you tell the hotel manager that you had $1,000 and now you only have $900 or $950?

The good news is most thieves are greedy and dumb and they will steal it all which gives your story a little more believability. Not that the hotel will do much but a couple stories like that and they might at least investigate.
It's definitely a code. A number of times I've had to call security to open the safe and I hear 4 beeps and it's open.

And the safe in the room I just moved to is locked...
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06-04-2016 , 08:59 PM
when my safe was locked at Flamingo, guy seemed to use some other machine to generate a code for the safe....like my work laptop VPN, I have a key fob thing that I push and it gives a varied code that I input to make vpn work
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06-04-2016 , 11:13 PM
You're talking about RSA token.
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06-05-2016 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by eco74
Being this was TI, I'd take the under on the expected value of the safe's contents.
Coincidentally, one of the dumber things I've done was leave money in our TI safe post-wedding and not realizing it until after we'd checked into the next hotel.

They couldn't immediately help us because somebody had already checked into the room (and I'm guessing that they didn't try to use the safe), but as I remember it was all cleared up the next day fairly easily and we got everything back. That wasn't a fun waiting period though.
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06-05-2016 , 04:54 AM
2 years ago I drove down with a couple from lol Canada - they were at NYNY and I was at TI.

When we got there we checked in separately and I went over to their room to meet up for drinks before we gambled. I'd already played some bj and had chips so I gave them 2 black ones for my share of the gas - to take care of it beforehand cause I was gonna gamble it away anyways.

We end up getting white girl wasted and have a good night.

The next morning I meet up with them and they have this amazing story about how they opened up their safe and found 2 hundo in there under their passports. I told them it was mine I gave them the day prior (cause their drunk selves forgot) and they were not happy.

Ten minutes later they spike $1k+ on one spin off the Green Machine
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06-05-2016 , 11:32 AM
In the early days of Atlantic City gambling, the few places that had room safes only had a 3 digit code and no lock-out time for several missed guesses. Crafty prostitutes were drugging their John and running through every safe combination possible and opening it in under an hour. I also remember stories of being able to open the safe with a 9-volt battery and piece of wire. YouTube might even have some 9-volt battery safe crack videos from back in the day.
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06-05-2016 , 01:24 PM
There is also a physical way to open it by banging on it the right way, but the one in my room now is built into the furniture. Otherwise I was going to try to open it and see if I won a treat.

Although I could always just tell maintenance I forgot the code cuz I got drunk and have them open it. Prob an envelope full of kleenex in it...
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06-05-2016 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CowboyCold
I'm gonna take a complete shot in the dark here, but......

These are electronic safes. I would imagine that a log is kept of when the safe was opened and what code was used and only the highest level of security personnel would have access to this information. And each lower level employee with a 'master' code to get into the safe may be different and specific to that employee, so they can track which employee opened it. Also think these codes could be changed at anytime.

I mean, think about how seamlessly they change the codes for key cards to gain access to the room. Same thing for the safes, just at a much higher security level.
^^^ this is how non bankrupt casinos do it lol

Last edited by Drrr.Gonzo; 06-05-2016 at 05:59 PM.
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06-06-2016 , 04:46 PM
Years ago I posted a youtube video in one of these threads of a safe being opened with a paper clip in under 60 seconds. So no, these are not exactly the epitome of security.
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06-07-2016 , 03:06 AM
I never thought that the safe was to do more than prevent drunken you from blowing your whole wad and to prevent the housekeepers from taking your GF/wife's valuable personal items.
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06-07-2016 , 07:19 PM
In between two rows of slot machines I found a $200 whore. Does that count?
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