JoeyDel,

Planet Hollywood high limit room has the 2nd best machine to make Diamond.
it's called Double Super Times Pay. Pick the 5play Jacks or Better variety at $1 denomination. (99% return)
the strategy is the same as normal Jacks or Better.

The best machine is the $1 denomination 8/5 Bonus Poker (99.17%) at Rio.
but it's single line and will take you 16hrs to do Diamond in a Day.
thus I would recommend dSTP at planet Hollywood.

for rooms, Bally's has the largest regular rooms out of all the cheap CET properties.

These machine recommendations are correct. You can check vpfree2.com for details.

I would also recommend Ballys over Flamingo or Harrahs if the prices are comparable. Ballys is actually the Vegas casino I stay at most frequently myself.

As for your Diamond perks questions, you can always take one guest into the lounge, so you only need one Diamond card for you plus your wife. If you make Diamond in the middle of the trip, it is very likely they will remove the resort fees at checkout, though you will probably have to request it. One thing to keep in mind is that even if you get 5000 TCs on your first day, the 10k TC bonus might not be added until 2 days later, so you might not actually be able to upgrade your card until a few days into the trip.

They definitely remove the resort fees from.the date you make diamond.for example you check in on Monday check out Saturday hit diamond on wed.bare minimum wed-sat have no resort fees if you ask. Monday and Tues is ymmv

I think you're a little bit nuts to try and make Diamond on your trip, considering you're in Australia and probably won't be able to take advantage of much of the benefits. Unless you get fairly lucky, it's probably going to cost you at least a couple grand to make Diamond. If you're a degen and want the gamble anyway that's a different story, but otherwise you'll probably spend far more getting the card than you'll get out of it. And the Diamond lounges are hardly exclusive, high-class joints. Mostly you get 15 bucks worth of chips and chicken wings.

Not to be that guy, but if the pool is any sort of important it's gotta be flamingo. Ballys is my last favorite CET hotel to stay at in Vegas (other than Rio)

And I agree with pig

Thanks guys appreciate the input. The wife is big on pools and spas but reading the reviews on trip advisor a lot of people seem to love or hate flamingo so I guess it is a flip as to whether you get a renovated room or not.

As far as being a little bit nuts goes. I would say I am completely off the charts bat **** crazy so certainly agree with you that it isn't a good idea. But still, if I only did things that were good for me then that would mean no more burgers which is not a life I want to live.

I am not normally a massive degen but as the saying goes, I am not heading to Vegas for a haircut!

I also hate lines and plan to play a bunch of WSOP events on the back end of my trip so that part is very valuable to me.

Does anybody have any more info about electronic baccarat? Do any of the hotels listed have them and if so do we know what rate they get points?

If anyone who lives in (or is in) Vegas feels like going on a mission and working out where these machines are and what the Coin in/TC ratio is then dinner is on me!

Thanks!

You'd probably be better off buying a Founder's card membership for Diamond status.

Ha! Fair enough. You should look through the various VP sites to see what Flamingo has wrt VP machines. I've found that when trying to get something out of a host, it helps if you can demonstrate play at their property. If not, just play where you can find the best machines. CET is not as much a stickler as other places about where you play, as long as it's in their system.

After you make Diamond you ask to see a host and beg for a room upgrade because of all the VP you've played. Or, if you played VP at Planet Hollywood, ask their host for a room. Note that the Linq and PHo are maybe better for "young" people that like noisy and flashy casinos.

There's a separate Diamond line for the WSOP, usually much shorter than where the proletariat must wait. That alone night be worth the pain of making Diamond.

Have you tried calling Total Rewards? Dunno if it's good internationally but the number is 1 877-7PLAYER. I've received much better service at that line than the normal CET number.

I agree if your goal is just no resort fees, access to the food/drinks at the Diamond lounges, and the $100 Diamond celebration dinner/food certificate.

and don't plan on going back to Vegas for any of the comp stuff that will come in 2-3 months.
ie: free slot play, free room offers, and/or free gifts

I would be interested in looking at this. Any idea if I can get one as an Australian?

Also, I know from reading the thread that this is not to be spruiked on here so if anyone wants to PM me any information about how to get good referral codes etc it would be appreciated.

I still will probably try to earn the diamond card once there as if I can get comped rooms every six months it will help me push a much stronger case for repeat visits to Vegas with the wife!

When I played electronic baccarat at Horseshoe Baltimore, it was $45/TC. Not worth it, except that you could play in a way that was essentially zero variance if that's what's important to you.

But they took these machines out from Baltimore almost two years ago, and I've never seem them at a CET propert in Vegas (although I haven't looked hard).

that method has a 9% house because of tie.
w0rse than e-Roulette's black/red.

a much better way of doing it was with e-Craps.
2.78% house edge

I believe betting on a tie has a 9% house edge. So yeah, you should never bet on a tie.

But betting player & banker simulateously only has like a 1.1% house edge. You almost always win one bet and lose the other, though if there is a tie both bets are returned. The only edge comes from the commission paid when banker wins (so if you really want no variance you bet slightly more on banker).

You can't actually bet both sides on one e-baccarat machine. But the machines in the same bank are linked as to outcome, so you can get two cards, put them in two adjacent machines, and bet banker on one and player on the other. You do need to have enough cash to keep both machines loaded, since often one will lose a lot while the other wins a lot.

This is correct. These games are usually even money baccarat (you get paid 1:1 on both player and banker except a banker win on a total of 6 pays 1:2). These rules have a 1.49% edge for banker and a 1.24% for player.

However if they are $45/TC they are not worth it as you are looking at spending 3k in equity to get the card in that case.

I did just see on the Rio website that they have an 'all new' electronic baccarat machine (which is hilarious as it looks so primitive to the ones we have had over here for years).

https://www.caesars.com/rio-las-vega...t#.WPOG_3Q_7qA

Anyone visiting the Rio anytime soon? Would love to know what $/TC they play at!

Thanks

Craps (excluding odds) is 1.36% Don't Come and 1.41% Come not 2.78% but I take your point.

Would love to know if there are any craps machines in CET properties that give points. Tnese are definitely my preferred method.

2,78% = rolling a 12
ie: u lose when betting both pass and don't pass

I've tried playing electronic craps for points before and my experience was that it was waaaaaay to slow. Like probably 20-50x slower than Video Poker.

hey guys i was wondering when you get the Diamond status from purchasing the founders card... will you get free rooms from that point out. Even if you dont gamble much or give much action? I know my friends who are diamond get like 5 free nights per week or something, but they gamble. I am not much of a gambler but would be interested if I could just buy the founders card. Maybe after a few months they realize i dont gamble and wont give me ****?

No, room comps are based on your play have nothing to do with your tier card (7 Stars excluded).

I'm not sure how much it helps. My girlfriend was made Diamond by adding her to my FC. She went from zero free rooms to the same as me after our last trip. She only played about $300 through .25 slot machines. Only comp days during the week, no weekends. Also, I've only checked at Horseshoe Bossier on her account, so it may just be because they're really hard up for customers.

If I'm a Diamond and have a comp room, and I also have no resort fees, can I check in without a deposit or credit card? Has anybody done this recently?

Yup
Yup

I usually do anyway, so I can charge to my room with impunity.

last silly question, for diamond.
i know resort fees are waievd. but does that mean you have the "perks" of the resort fee i.e. wifi at no cost? or does it just mean you kind of have the option to waive it

Yes, you do get the perks of the resort fee without having to pay for them. This is actually a change for the better that CET made just a couple months ago.