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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
I will save about 600-700 in resort fees, probably get some decent free play offers, 100 for the diamond dinner voucher, get free drinks at locations such as Council Bluffs, and get to go to the top of the list for poker (at least in CET's Vegas locations.
Idk if it is necessarily worth 2300 but that is just variance (bigger loss than EV). I think it is definitely worth more than the actual expected loss to me.
Mostly I asked the question to see if I could justify the cost to myself. I made Diamond last year and now have to decide to try to do it again this year.
The resort fees are definitely the biggest perk, although if I had to pay them I would just visit far less often. I don't really get any free play offers at all, other than ten bucks slot play and occasional toaster at my "local" CET place, which is 200 miles away. I'm not buying $20 of gas to get a free $15 toaster.
Jumping poker lines is also a huge benefit that's hard to put a value on. Weekends like this past one make for some long wait lists.
The hundred dollar meal is basically worthless to me. I didn't even use mine last year. I'm a low-roller eater and seldom pay much more than $20 for a dinner. I figured that with a "free" hundred dollar dinner I would tip $20, which is what I'd spend anyway. I might enjoy a free Penn & Teller show but all the rest looked like meh. Even so, I have been unable to see it in my last 5 trips because I'm not leaving a good game or whatever because I need to see a show at 10 o'clock.
The Diamond Lounge is something that I thought I would get a lot out of, but again, you have to be there in a two hour window to get food, and I can't run on a schedule in Vegas. So far I've gotten about 5 bucks worth of free food since last July.
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Originally Posted by KatoKrazy
DSTP stands for Double Super Times Pay. You pay 2 extra credits per line to have a chance at multipliers.
How much is that like Ultimate X? Every single time I've tried Ultimate X it's been like a cash incinerator, as Leon describes it. Put money in, push button to incinerate.
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Originally Posted by braudablowup
I travel for poker close to 6 months out of the year, including circuit stops, Borg in AC and various other series where 95% of my stops have CET properties nearby. I'm saving $450~ per series in resort fees, countless dollars on Food when I'm able to go to diamond lounges. Cherokee, Hammond, AC, and especially Las Vegas from 4 weeks in June/July each year. The ability to show up to Vegas, sell Penn & Teller tix on CL in May, June, and July. $100 food voucher, trip to Atlantis, and so on.
If you are a true value hunter like myself and religiously stick to your perks of Diamond throughout the year, Diamond is worth almost 2x 7k or 6x 2300 that was lost on the machine. I had used Founders in the past, but wouldn't think twice about getting Diamond thru VP.
I understand most in here, don't travel like myself, but Diamond was never intended for those that make 2-3 trips a year. Just thought I'd come in and say how much Diamond saves me yearly and increases my ROI at Poker stop/series.
Interesting how the same card is so beneficial to some and not at all to others. Other than resort fees I get nothing that has tangible value out of it.