Fair enough.

What i am going to take from this is that i cannot be sure if the bonus earned in late December are going to apply to 2024. They might apply, in fact it could even be probable that they will apply, but it is Caesars Rewards so no one has a clue for sure. I bet even the people at a Caesars Rewards desk do not even know the correct answer.

So if I want to be 100% assured of earning Diamond status, I need to earn it by playing. I cannot 100% rely on this bonus.

Why not simply contact them and ask. I am sure it won't happen overnight but you have plenty of time to hound them as necessary before your trip in December.

All I can say is that based on my wife's history, the odds are in favor of the bonuses counting for 2024.

Her issue is usually the opposite. By December she has normally achieved the status she wants for the next year and wants late December "points" to count for next year. Luckily we have other casinos near by that have different earning periods.

A good answer to this is bc their customer service is deplorable and if you ask 5 different people you'll get 5 different answers.

The answer is because contacting Caesars Rewards customer support is extremely painful and frustrating. If my only two choices in the world were spending the 1/2 hour needed to get an answer from Caesars Rewards or getting kicked in the nuts, I don't know what I would choose. If the alternative was something less painful like just getting punched in the upper arm, I would totally take that over having to deal with Caesars Rewards.

And as Borg mentions, just because someone from Caesars Rewards gives you an answer does not make it true. Call again and the answer is likely to be different.

On a positive note, my account was credited with 500 tier points the other day. I assume it came from this promotion (it was hard to tell because I did some playing in there and had some daily bonuses applied as well, but one day it went up exactly 500 points). So apparently they are crediting the accounts fairly fast. It was only 3 or 4 days. It was over the month change though so there is still a chance it is a monthly thing.

Easy fix...Caesarsrewards@custhelp.com

Don't have to wait, don't have to talk to them, will have documentation of their response.

Or you can go by all the supposition (including mine) here that has absolutely zero weight. Or you can be like the man stumbling in the dark refusing to turn on the light.

Well, gents, it is an exciting day in the Face household. After numerous trips to Vegas this year, I have finally secured platinum status.

I know the benefits pale in comparison to diamond, but this has me intrigued:



How do you high rollers go about redeeming your free nights? Can you pick any night, or is it limited to certain dates?

There is definitely a calendar of dates the offer is valid for, but in my experience the offer can be used on most dates. I think they typically restrict it only on things like busy weekends or holidays. But of course, who knows with the mystical CET algorithms.

You can use it like any other offer code. Just click on the offer in the website and select your dates and it will tell you if it’s available. You can also choose “flexible dates” and the calendar will display those dates it’s available on.

Alternatively you can call 1-800-223-7277 and use your offer code there. I've done this twice recently and had no issues booking dates that include a Thursday and Friday night.

Did they let you use both on one booking? I recently redeemed 7 and they told me they had to set it up as 7 one day bookings then merged them when I checked in. Was a little concerning but worked out fine and only a slight delay getting it sorted.

I usually call the number, but I have done it online by entering the code just like any other promotional code.

The reason I usually call is that I tend to try and use my promotional free nights for expensive weekends or holidays. When you try and book expensive nights online, the nights might not be blocked out, but they are not available either. They will often have a "Call" indicator. Furthermore, by calling, often agents can check other hotels for you.

For example, I recently called to try and use a free promotional night on New Years Eve in Vegas. Online, most of the casions were blocked but a couple were listed as "call". I tried booking PH and couldn't get in, but the agent was able to book me into the Cromwell instead.

Calling is generally the best if you want to compare different options kr push for tough dates, but if you know exactly what you want and it isn't a super busy night, then booking online is fine.

Yes, each night was a separate confirmation during the reservation process. When I checked in at the Diamond desk at Paris they looked up my reservation and said “Here for one night?” I pointed out I had a second night as well and they quickly found it and merged them together.

Someone in the vlogger thread said that the Diamond benefit is going away this coming year at FoundersCard. Anyone else heard that or know that to be true? The benefit is still showing on their website.

Dunno about Founders, but I got an email from Wyndham that the Diamond match for being a business card holder is going away. Man it would be cool if anything ever got better instead of a slow steady enshittification.

FC benefit is probably going away. Here's what they sent me:
They did manage to suck me in for one more year though with a $100 credit to apply to this year's renewal, bringing me down to $195 for the year, just in case they work something out. I haven't looked through all the benefits in a very long time, so maybe I can find something or other to help offset that if Caesars actually is gone.

nothing corporate ever gets better.

Anybody know if AC is doing any more tier credit multipliers before the end of the year?

I'm still getting Vegas only in my offers. Thanks

With Wyndham Business Earner credit card no longer qualifying me for Caesers Diamond, I need some “diamond in a day” advice so that I can regain Diamond status and skip to the front of the cash game lines during next summer’s WSOP. In January, 2025, Caesers has a 10x multiplier promo for Vegas locations. I would like to go from Zero to 15,000 Tier Credit Hero during that promo. Based on my math, I will need to run $7,500 (plus a little cushion) through a slot machine in order to get to Diamond status. So, what is the best way to do that? I truly know nothing about the slots, preferring to focus solely on poker. Where to play? What are the best slot machines? What denomination bet? Any other advice? I don’t mind losing 10 or 15 percent, but really prefer not to lose substantially more. Yes, I have RTFF but still need and would be grateful for any advice.

A lot of people like video poker instead of slots because you can tell what your ev is on a vp machine by checking the pay table. I don't know of a way to check the ev of a slot machine. The casino will tell you the ev of their slots overall, but for a specific machine, I don't know.

If you don't want to lose more than 750-1100 bucks, you should decide beforehand what you'll do if you hit that number and only have 800 tier credits. Because that can happen, happened to me, and it's better to decide your course of action when you have plenty of time to think.

Having done the same thing before many times (though usually with only a 5x multiplier) my advice would be to learn and stick to VP (Video Poker) unless you are winning and don't mind burning some on slots to speed things up. With a 10x multiplier it won't be difficult to earn 1,500 tier credits, but it may be more of a risk than you want to take. IMO you need to enjoy VP enough to make this worthwhile. It is very possible to lose more than the 15% above trying to get the credits.

What I did the first time I tried this was to learn basic VP strategy using the tables using the tables at Wizard of Odds and then to practice online at VideoPoker.com. The latter has free VP, but if you really want to learn how to play well, spend the $12 for a month of the Pro version which will allow you to play all kinds of games and test your accuracy, as well as showing you the cost of your mistakes. (Gold works too.)

The first time I tried this, I thought I had a good feel for VP variance and sat down at a single line JoB machine in the Bally's high limit area and played until I was stuck $2200 with still no Diamond. (I would have made it at 10x, but not 5x.) I lost about $3,000 that trip all for measly Diamond status, an expensive lesson.

In later years, however, I've gotten to Diamond on 5x or even 3x trips without losing anything close to that, and winning maybe half the time. It is definitely not +EV, though, if all you want is Diamond. I just play for fun and try to arrange my trips around multiplier weeks.

IMO your best bet is to try the following:

-- Start by learning basic strategy by playing VP online and see if you enjoy it. If you do, learn the variants you like the most. Be sure you adjust the pay tables at VideoPoker.com to what you can expect to find at Caesars properties. You can sort of scout the pay tables ahead of time over at https://www.vpfree2.com. Beware that the very best games require $20 in for 1 TC and not the usual $10. Also, they are very high limit. Skip these if you are aiming for TC's.

-- Play enough online to get a feel for the swings and to learn the correct plays for the most common situations. Try playing 1 line, 5 lines, and 10 lines to see how it affects your swings.

-- I've had far the most success when I move around. Sitting and staying at a single machine that isn't keeping me close to even seems to always end badly, so I change machines and variants regularly. I don't mind playing the bad pay tables at the bar since it is more fun drinking and occasionally talking to people.

-- IMO you should avoid games with multipliers (STP, DSTP, Ultimate X) even though some of them actually improve your EV a little. That extra bet or two can absolutely crush your bankroll if you don't get lucky.

-- With practice you can easily play 500 hands an hour if you just want to grind. I don't, since I like to drink and socialize and move around, but even I can do 350 - 400 hands an hour without a problem, including talking and moving around.

-- With a $2k bankroll I'd stick to $1/$5. You need $15,000 coin-in and I would typically get that in two days of casual play.

-- Finally, be warned that you are pretty likely to lose at least $500 even if things go well. I'm pulling that number of the air from my many VP escapades. For me that's worth it. By then I will have easily had at least $100 worth of (Strip-priced) drinks, and by the time I factor in the savings from no resorts fees, some definite comped nights and the $100 Diamond Dinner, I'm happy. The days I've dropped $1500 are another story.

-- If you happen to run hot during the 10x you might consider pushing it all the way to Diamond Plus. Nearly always enough to top the poker list at the WSOP (except for the occasional 7 Stars players) and those 4 free drinks a day come in handy for water bottles or cocktails...

Hope this helps and good luck!

If you are in Vegas, I would recommend playing 9/5 JoB VP. JoB is the easiest VP variant to learn, and 9/5 is the highest payback table that CET offers at $10/TC.

They have these machines at $1 denomination (so $5/hand) at Caesars, and perhaps also at Paris. They are Spin Poker, so you can play as many lines as you want. My personal preference is 3 lines, so $15/hand. You'd need 1000 of these spins for 1500 TCs, so you could do it in about 2 hours if you're comfortable with the game.

Is VP sometimes excluded from the 10x promo or is just regular poker?

Vp always included afaik

Yes. Sometimes CET makes it obvious by putting it in a notice, I've seen it on signs on the casino floor, but sometimes they'll exclude VP and make it hard to find that out.

You don't have to hunt around for good pay tables, because CET doesn't have any. Unless you're talking high limit or reduced tier credit rates. At the normal $10/tc the best Bonus Poker has a payback of 98.01%, and every CET casino has the same type of odds. IOW no CET has ordinary BP that's better than 98.01%.

It's critical to earn tc's in blocks of 2500. That pays the best daily bonus of 2x. Earn 2500, get a bonus of 5000. Earn 5000, get a bonus of 5000, hence the title of this thread. Don't stop at 2499! Likewise if you know that you won't be able to finish off another block of 2500, don't put in another dime until the next day.

Be sure you know what a CET "day" is.

Also, it may or may not be a conspiracy theory, but like some others, I've had unbelievably bad luck on multiplier days. Even after the 5x or 10x I've lost a lot more money than on past no-multiplier days for a given number of tc earned. I lost $2200 trying to earn 1500 tc the last time I played a 5x day. Which means I didn't even earn 300 tc! I said enough is enough and just gave up.

It would be simpler to just shovel money into slots. Not as much fun though, and maybe not as lucrative.

Now that I re-think, it was live poker that was excluded. My bad.

In 2024 I noticed for the first time that some of the Las Vegas 5x promotions were only giving 3x for VP, and this was what I earned during one of those weeks. The upcoming promo in OP's post in January does not make any mention of reduced rates for VP though. Looks like 10x across the board.