Any risk due to human element?

The guy needs to log you in and my strip always seems to go bad fast

Upside and downside. I'll play multiple sessions to reduce variance.

Not often possible to know the hold on a slot. I assume it will suck. The exception would be if a machine or a bank of them list the hold or payout %.

Also take note that most of Caesar's best full pay video poker machines are $25 coin-in for 1 tier credit, not $10 like the lower paying machines.

Check out vpFREE2's website for more info:
Paris Casino Player's Club info - Note: Machines with 9/6 JoB and 8/5 BP require $25 coin-in for one tier credit.

You won't get rated on odds at all.

You guys got me thinking of Braveheart

“Hold….hold……now!!!”

My advice is to go where the Buffalo roam

I believe 8% is the total average slot hold for Vegas Strip casinos in 2023.

It's probably true that most slot machines hold more than that. But that's because low denomination machines generally (but not always) hold more than high denomination machines. And it's likely that while the majority of machines are low denomination, the majority of money is wagered on higher denomination machines, so the 8% average is skewered toward the high denoms.

But if you're trying to accumulate thousands of TCs in a day, you're probably going to want to play a somewhat higher denomination, so 8% might actually be on the high side if you're playing $20+/spin.

However, you can pretty easily find 98% VP at $10/TC at several Caesar's properties, which is a much better bargain. If you -don't- hit a royal, your expectation at these machines will be around 96% with lower variance than a slot. And if you do happen to hit a royal, you're pretty much a guaranteed winner.

As far as VP, isn’t their quite a bit of skill and/or game strategy involved in terms of what you should discard/draw to?

It’s not that hard and if you make mistakes it won’t impact that much if you are just playing a day

But you can’t be in there mindlessly banging buttons like I want to do. Sometimes I make the mistake of discarding what I want to keep in VP. And that hurts

Check the fine print. In the old days, places like Barbary Coast had big signs near the front that said "99%!" in front of a bank of slots. The fine print said at least 1 of them were 99%. These days even if the average says 98%, you might still pour a bunch of money into a 95% machine.

You can't. In the old days you could theoretically chart the reels and a rainman type could figure out the odds on that machine. These days, with electronic reels, you have no chance of figuring it out. You could have 5 slots that look identical and there be 5 different holds.

With 4 grand you can just bail on Diamond, and pay for parking and resort fees for many, many days.

You can’t buy your way onto the cash game tables at WSOP though. Well I guess you could bribe people.

But if you want to pay I think it’s $600 for Founders Club

Anyhow some people enjoy the pursuit as much or more than the end result. That might be case with me. “Oh give me a home, where the Buffalo Gold roams”

$295 with a promo referral code, lol

Anyone have experience withdrawing rewards points to either sports betting or horse racing and just cashing them out without betting?

The horse racing makes it look somewhat possible to do.

I’ve gotten what I thought was promo code and it was still $599. Others have said the same thing

But I didn’t buy it anyway

$295 for me on FC also. You may have to contact them to get it down to that price.

I've never needed to do that because I go to Vegas often enough that I can burn them on either food or towards my room cost.

With a 92% EV, how do slot players not go broke immediately? I don't see how even a degen gets enough positive stimulus to keep feeding the machine.

that's $125k in one day to get 5k tier credits for Diamond in a day -

Times .9954 = a loss of $575 on average for diamond.

Variance aka variable ratio reinforcement schedule.

Does this possibly start 9pm Pacific?

Good luck everyone!

You too!

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