I've never felt so much need to take a long hot shower until I tried this match.

Applied for Earner+ match back in Feb and they delayed the match for 7 weeks. After 5 different calls (and over 2 hours on the phone), they finally matched it.

Honestly F Wyndham for taking away status match. I will never give them a dollar and I encourage you all to do the same !


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Wat? They status matched me a couple weeks ago. What are you talking about?

I didn't need to match this year so I didn't look into it, but it doesn't read as you can match from Hilton (for example) to Wyndham in order to then match with Caesars.

https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/wyndha...s/status-match

I matched a couple weeks ago to Caesars through Wyndham. Looks like Wyndham stopped matching others, but Caesars wasn't honoring those kind of secondhand matches last year anyway.

I don't think this is true. Well, initially it was. I did the Hilton -> Wyndham -> Caesars match last year. What they were trying to do was get rid of the matching from Caesars, to Wyndham, and back to Caesars. That language is now in the terms. Although from having read successful matches in this thread, I am not sure if that loophole is really closed yet.

Ah gotchya, that makes sense.

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I'm Seven Stars. I've seen what I believe to be a huge dip in the amount of comps I'm receiving.
I think I play rather big (Craps/Paigow?BJ/Video poker).
Last trip of 2 days I earned 48,000 Rewards credits which is a lot. I was extremely lucky and wound up winning 7K. I usually earn in the neighborhood of 20,000 on a trip
In the old days this type of trip would warrant $2,500-3500 freeplay coming in the door. Nowadays maybe $300 or so,
I had decided at the beginning of the year I wanted to concentrate more play at Caesars properties this year although I thought the freeplay amounts would be better than they have been, so I'm may have to reconsider if they don't improve soon.

I got more free play in December than now, dunno if it's seasonal, and not sure anyone knows the algorithm.

They’ve definitely been more stingy since the Eldorado acquisition.

What does your host say?

Do table games even generate free play offers at CET?

Just dealt with host. With a little discussion have upped the freeplay to $1200 & $500 food. Still small potatoes but just enough to incentivize me to stick with them.

To the question regarding table games and free play. In the past they generated large comps, nowadays it seems not so much. I bumped into a lady at the kiosk last week in San Diego Harrahs. She was a slot player and seemingly not a huge one, her daily comp was $550. Me being a table player and a guy willing to throw down serious money, only was getting $425. So my conclusion is that slot player are definitely prioritized. The closest I come to slots is video poker.

If her daily comp was $550 she was playing enough so they thought they could give her this and make money. Remember if you give them a house edge of 2% and she gives an edge of 8% you need bet 4 times as much in a day to be worth the same profit. Slot players often put in more hours per day than other gamblers so you need consider that as well. And the casino prefers 100 $10 bets over 1 $1000 bet as it lowers their variance.

Maybe, but 48k tc is still 48k. If you want to see crazy slot players, go to the Orleans sometime. Just middle America couples mashing buttons all day long. I saw one couple with their Mega Plutonium status on their cards. The max level they have. You can cash in those Great whatever points at the end of the year for some nice free play. I've seen people do it.

The bit about 4x is not necessarily true. It depends on the how fast the game is. The house edge is per roll/spin/hand etc. A fast game which has a lower house edge may be more profitable for a casino than a slower game with a larger edge.

In any case, that’s besides the point. Slots are obviously more profitable for a casino. And it isn’t primarily because of house edge since there are plenty of “carnival” table games where the house edge on many bets is as large, or larger than slots. The key is labor. Table games require dealers and floor staff to run. They also incur more security overhead costs since there’s a lot more human beings involved and stuff going on. Everybody is watching each other… so the movie goes.

This is why you see casinos reducing their table gaming space in lieu of “stadium” games where a few, or even zero dealers can “deal” to a couple dozen gaming stations. I would not be at all surprised if ten years from now the only place you see live dealer games is in high limit.

Anyhow, the live table game experience, and the loyalty program aspect of it, have definitely changed quite a bit in recent years. Rules and odds have been altered. And perks have been reduced and/or watered down. This has occurred since the Eldorado acquisition for sure, and I assume it is also occurring at other companies besides CET since these companies usually copy one another. And it isn’t just limited to the gaming industry. Pretty much across the board these day we see companies cutting corners in order to increase profitability, secure in the knowledge that customers will continue to show up due to their constant hunger and need to consume

Realistically, it is more than 4x. Most penny slots in Vegas these days are 12.5% hold. The ones that aren't are mostly 10% hold.

Also keep in mind that free play is a soft comp. Resort credit and rooms are a hard comp.

Dodged the DIAD bullet yet again. Lost $700 in the VP machines but expected to lose a lot more. It started off ugly but then I got on a a run and ran $200 up over $2000 before sliding back to $600. I've been running way ahead of expectation the last few years so I don't mind making a $700 offering to the variance gods.

If I ever stumble upon a pile of money, I'd like to play vp a lot, like a mini-Leon. The higher variance games with a multiplier can get pretty exciting. I got hooked sometime back when I was dealt 4 to a royal when a 10x multiplier came up before the last card was dealt.

5x Tier Credit Multiplier happening now. Might have to point the skooter towards Ak-Chin at the end of April...

NOW – April 9th, 2023
Caesars Palace Las Vegas
Cromwell Las Vegas
Flamingo Las Vegas
Harrah’s Las Vegas
Horseshoe Las Vegas
Linq Las Vegas
Paris Las Vegas
Planet Hollywood Las Vegas
Rio Las Vegas

April 6th – April 9th, 2023
Caesars Atlantic City
Caesars Southern Indiana
Caesars Windsor
Grand Victoria Elgin
Harrah’s Resort Atlantic City
Harrah’s Cherokee
Harrah’s Cherokee Valley River
Harrah’s Council Bluffs
Harrah’s Gulf Coast
Harrah’s Hoosier Park
Harrah’s Joliet
Harrah’s Lake Tahoe
Harrah’s Laughlin
Harrah’s Metropolis
Harrah’s New Orleans
Harrah’s Kansas City
Harrah’s Northern California
Harrah’s Philadelphia
Harrah’s Pompano Beach
Harrah’s Southern California
Harvey’s Lake Tahoe
Horseshoe Baltimore
Horseshoe Black Hawk
Horseshoe Bossier City
Horseshoe Council Bluffs
Horseshoe Hammond
Horseshoe Indianapolis
Horseshoe Lake Charles
Horseshoe St. Louis
Horseshoe Tunica
Isle Bettendorf
Isle of Capri Boonville
Isle Waterloo
Lady Luck Black Hawk
Scioto Downs Racino
The Row Reno
Tropicana Atlantic City
Tropicana Laughlin

April 27th – April 30th, 2023
Harrah’s Ak-Chin

Thanks for the post

Poker is no longer included in these, right?

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Ak Chin vp is pretty bad, isn't it?

Vegas is having another 5x in June. They seem to be doing more of these than pre-takeover.

Just confirming, the 5x Tier Credit multiplier is separate from the daily bonus, correct?

For example, if I earn 2500 TC during a promotional day with 5x bonus I will have 2500 x 5 = 12500 TC (+5000 daily bonus?) = 17500 TC?

Is this right?

That's my understanding