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Old 03-16-2016, 03:53 AM   #301
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Unless you analyzed the reels and figured out a single machine it wouldn't make sense to stay at a single machine. Move around and even out your EV.
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Old 03-16-2016, 11:29 AM   #302
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VP is way better than slots if you take the time to learn whichever game you intend to play. If youre anything like me, and you just ASSUME you can figure out VP strat easily, youre gonna have a bad time.

I can stay afloat much longer on a random slot than I can mashing the 5 coin bet on VP
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Old 03-16-2016, 01:23 PM   #303
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You don't even have to learn the VP strategies. You can buy a card at a gift shop for 5 bucks with it printed on the card. I checked it against the strat posted online and it matches.

I wish playing the Megabucks was reasonable, but casino hold on it is something like 12%! Would be nice to hope for 10 million + hit while grinding Diamond.
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Old 03-17-2016, 06:47 AM   #304
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Playing bad vp assuming you played before but don't know optimal strategy is still worth a lot more then slots.

You'd have to play twice as much on VP as slots but your expected loss is a lot lower.

But then again it's all up to you at the end of the day. If you have fun on slots then by all means go for it. If you want to limit your losses take a few hours and study the strategy on video poker. Personally I don't like slots unless it's a must hit by about to hit.
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Old 03-17-2016, 03:17 PM   #305
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Playing bad vp assuming you played before but don't know optimal strategy is still worth a lot more then slots.

You'd have to play twice as much on VP as slots but your expected loss is a lot lower.
You have to play 5 times as much VP to get the same tier points. That's my point.

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But then again it's all up to you at the end of the day. If you have fun on slots then by all means go for it. If you want to limit your losses take a few hours and study the strategy on video poker. Personally I don't like slots unless it's a must hit by about to hit.
Instead of studying for a few hours I spent 30 seconds buying a strategy card at the gift shop.
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Old 03-17-2016, 03:38 PM   #306
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You have to play 5 times as much VP to get the same tier points. That's my point.
Not really. While there are some machines that are $25/TC, most are still $10/TC. Granted those are the worst ones, but even 95% payback VP at $10/TC is going to have a lower expected TC cost than a 88% payback slot at $5/TC.
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Old 03-17-2016, 04:24 PM   #307
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I guess the last one I played was $25/TC because it seemed like I played it a long time to get 10 TC. And really, most slots are better than 90%. 88% was for Megabucks, and I might even cough up some EV for a shot, however small, at ten million plus.
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Old 03-17-2016, 05:48 PM   #308
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I guess the last one I played was $25/TC because it seemed like I played it a long time to get 10 TC. And really, most slots are better than 90%. 88% was for Megabucks, and I might even cough up some EV for a shot, however small, at ten million plus.
Do you have any evidence about slot payback? Without a par sheet there's no telling what the payback is. I think the numbers you are claiming are very optimistic, especially for cet. This is the home of 6/5 bp, 8/5 jacks, etc.
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Old 03-17-2016, 07:56 PM   #309
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Not for specific machines or even banks of machines. I saw some numbers somewhere (can't remember where) from the gaming commission, who the casinos have to report to. Megabucks machines are a lot easier to get a handle on because they are reported separately. I haven't seen anything saying so, but I would guess all the Megabucks slots are the same and payout the same.
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Old 03-18-2016, 12:49 PM   #310
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This slot pays back 98%!! Of course 12% of that is wrapped up in the 1 in 5,000,000 progressive jackpot payout, so 99.99% of you will be playing at 86% but think of them tier credits!

Unknown paybacks and unknown variance, uh no thanks.
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Old 03-18-2016, 01:50 PM   #311
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If I was going to play slots for TCs, I would try to play ones that paid out, smaller more often so at least you have a chance to cycle the same money through.
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Old 03-18-2016, 02:07 PM   #312
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iirc each county in the US with slot machines has a minimum payback percentage that they have to adhere to. I want to say Vegas was 83%
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Old 03-18-2016, 02:19 PM   #313
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In Nevada it's 75%, Jersey is 83%. The most recent tally I found was 2012, and random earlier years. The years I saw were all fairly close. The Vegas Strip $1 slots profit in the area of 5 to 6.7 percent in total. So the payout is between 93% and 95%.

Megabucks are 88% but I imagine the results are skewed in years no jackpot is hit.
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Old 03-18-2016, 04:34 PM   #314
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The founders card deal is still legit? I thought I missed that boat a long time ago. Is it still $295/yr? I stay at a caesars property at least twice a month and go to vegas once a year so it sounds like that would be pretty valuable.
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:30 PM   #315
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If I was going to play slots for TCs, I would try to play ones that paid out, smaller more often so at least you have a chance to cycle the same money through.
I agree you should try to play lower variance slots, such as Black Widow, Sparticus, Little Red, and avoid high variance ones such as Cleo, Cleo II, Awesome Reels, China Shores, etc.
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Old 03-19-2016, 06:40 AM   #316
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The founders card deal is still legit? I thought I missed that boat a long time ago. Is it still $295/yr? I stay at a caesars property at least twice a month and go to vegas once a year so it sounds like that would be pretty valuable.
It's def legit. I think the 295/yr is long gone though, lol. You should def check it out though if you're not making it to diamond through play.
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Old 03-19-2016, 04:35 PM   #317
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yeah im platinum based on play around 1/5 of the way to diamond (3,000TC) I just dont have the intestinal fortitude to go for DIAD the conventional ways. And yeah I tried the founders card with a promo code and it was $395+$95 initiation fee. Havent pulled the trigger yet.

The other thing is that the Diamond through the founders card is only good through 1/31/2017 as of right now. I have a trip to Vegas planned in March 2017 so I would like to know if they renew their membership through that time first.
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Old 03-19-2016, 08:52 PM   #318
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It's def legit. I think the 295/yr is long gone though, lol. You should def check it out though if you're not making it to diamond through play.

I constantly get emails w that 295 offer.
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:44 AM   #319
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yeah im platinum based on play around 1/5 of the way to diamond (3,000TC) I just dont have the intestinal fortitude to go for DIAD the conventional ways. And yeah I tried the founders card with a promo code and it was $395+$95 initiation fee. Havent pulled the trigger yet.

The other thing is that the Diamond through the founders card is only good through 1/31/2017 as of right now. I have a trip to Vegas planned in March 2017 so I would like to know if they renew their membership through that time first.
I'm on my second year now and they auto renewed my diamond status. Of course it depends on FC and CET continuing their relationship, but I don't know why they wouldn't.
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Old 03-24-2016, 03:33 PM   #320
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emailed the rep who sent me the application @ $395+$95 saying I thought it was $295 with the initiation fee waived, and she sent this back:

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-Two Year Prepaid Membership at $295 per year ($590) plus a one time $95 initiation fee, and upon your acceptance you would receive a $100 AMEX gift card.

-Two Year Prepaid Membership at $295 per year ($590) and we will waive the $95 initiation fee.
I'm still a little uneasy on not knowing whether or not they will continue the caesars partnership but im probably going to jump on it.
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Old 03-24-2016, 05:33 PM   #321
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This is another reminder that posting referral codes is spam. Please do not ask for them either.
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Old 03-25-2016, 03:00 AM   #322
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My bad
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Old 03-26-2016, 01:06 AM   #323
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Will a Founder's card -> diamond status lead to top-of-list status at the Rio during the WSOP?

Is there an equivalent for the Aria?
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Old 03-26-2016, 01:09 AM   #324
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anyone know if comps ($2/hr) from play at caesars poker room can be applied toward the buffet?
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Old 03-26-2016, 03:46 AM   #325
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anyone know if comps ($2/hr) from play at caesars poker room can be applied toward the buffet?
Yes. They can be used at Bacchanal or any other Caesar's property buffet.
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