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02-12-2017 , 10:34 PM
Many people have told me, and so far I agree, that Vegas is an easy town to get laid in, but a hard place to actually date. Obviously, Vegas is a transient town with people coming and going a lot. A certain percentage of women who live here are only here to take your money - i.e. strippers, escorts, etc. This, of course, narrows the playing field somewhat. Others are just low lifes, addicts, etc.

As a poker player, the task of finding a real relationship is also difficult because you spend most of your days in a casino. If I do see a cashier, dealer, or player who I think it cute, it seems making that approach is awkward. There is at least one Asian hottie at the Bellagio 20/40 game I would love to take out and another curvy white girl who plays 40/80L, but I can't exactly walk up in a middle of a hand and say hello. Or maybe I can, I just don't know what to say in that spot. It's just sort of an awkward approach. Even flirting at the table is tricky and seems annoying and creepy. Its the same at the gym.

Maybe I don't have "game" like some guys, but my goal isn't to have a million girls I am juggling. One really good one would be just fine. One that supports the fact I am doing what I love and doesn't see playing poker as unstable or immature. I am almost 40 and don't need more notches on my belt to validate my manhood.

Girls on Tinder say they are not looking for a hook up when in fact everyone calls Tinder a hook up app. Match is ok, but its just a lot of emails and going on dates and wasting each others time 98% of the time. I like the old school approach of just chatting up a girl and then making her laugh, planting that seed, and then asking her out. It just seems the only girls I ever really see work in the casino in some way.

My plan is to go to some meetup groups this summer, like for hiking, etc. But I am open to what you guys find successful for making good friends (non poker) and dating in Vegas. This town as a lot to offer, but the social scene doesn't seem to be one of them.
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02-12-2017 , 11:53 PM
I'd be interested to hear from somebody working at a casino about their policy regarding dating customers. Sounds like an environment that should be pretty strict about that because of a potential conflict of interest?

If you are a regular at that casino, I wouldn't date another regular for the same reasons that prevent people from dating at "normal" workplaces.

I think the easiest and best way to meet potential dates is through friends of friends. Making more friends outside of poker should dramatically increase your changes of getting to know females through them.
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02-12-2017 , 11:53 PM
when I was doing more hardcore dating (in Las Vegas) circa 2009-2010, Plenty of Fish worked pretty well for meeting "normal" girls. wound up going on several dates using that website.

Last edited by 702guy; 02-13-2017 at 12:03 AM.
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02-13-2017 , 12:01 AM
Don't approach women while they are playing poker. Don't ask her out at the poker table in front of other people. Wait for her to go on a break or for her to rack up and then approach her and ask her out. You can start some basic conversation at the table to get some background info on her but don't flirt too much or make it obvious that you are hitting on her. Doing stuff like that in front of others will put her on the spot and will make her act differently than she would one on one away from the table. Most times it will decrease your odds of getting a number and/or a date. Most girls don't want to seem too easy so they are likely to be more reserved in front of others whereas they will be more open in a more private setting, even away from the table in a poker room or in the casino. If she plays regularly in that room, catch her as she's walking out of the room so you're not hitting on her in front of her "co-workers" who see her everyday.

Finding a woman to date is purely a numbers game of asking out and chatting up many women until you find one that you like and she likes you in return. Go out there and meet them.

Also, consider the environment that you are meeting women in to factor into the type of women you meet. If you meet her at Starbucks during lunch hour off the strip, she's probably a different type of girl than one you'd meet at a casino bar at 2am on the strip. Just use common sense to find what you're looking for.

Good luck! There are a few decent ones out there...believe me.
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02-13-2017 , 12:06 AM
Forgot to mention, a great way to meet someone you might actually have a future with is by focusing on shared interests. For example, you have a dog? Then go to a dog park with your dog and try to meet single women with dogs as well. Just replace dog with whatever else you are into...hiking, sports (join a mixed league), going to the gym (just careful with approaching women at the gym as some have their shields up big time).
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02-13-2017 , 12:25 AM
Your age group, Blue Martini on Wednesdays, its literally Industry women in the 100s, just sit at the bar, tip the bartender maybe get a shisha... become a semi-liked regular and the bar girls will hook you up, and voila problem solved.
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02-13-2017 , 04:52 AM
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Your age group, Blue Martini on Wednesdays, its literally Industry women in the 100s, just sit at the bar, tip the bartender maybe get a shisha... become a semi-liked regular and the bar girls will hook you up, and voila problem solved.
Doesn't it look a bit pathetic, creepy, etc to go to a bar by yourself? Or for that matter doing much of anything by yourself?
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02-13-2017 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by gjpure
Doesn't it look a bit pathetic, creepy, etc to go to a bar by yourself? Or for that matter doing much of anything by yourself?
You're almost 40 and still have this mindset/concern. Jeez man, life's too short and you've already lived near half of yours, stop sweating things like that. Seriously.

OK, I'll admit a genuine restaurant by yourself is a bit weird. But that's pretty much it. Maybe the club too, but you don't sound like you're doing the club anyway. But bars, cafes, movies. All fine to do on your own, imo.
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02-13-2017 , 05:55 AM
There's no such thing as "friends" in Vegas

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02-13-2017 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 702guy
when I was doing more hardcore dating (in Las Vegas) circa 2009-2010, Plenty of Fish worked pretty well for meeting "normal" girls. wound up going on several dates using that website.
Plenty of Fish was way better back then. I had success getting normal dates around that time but now the site is lacking any woman that are remotely attractive. The few that are cute/pretty are flooded with 100's of messages each day. Match is slightly better but not great. Vegas is tough, I had more success when I lived in New York but I was also much younger then lol. Keep us updated on how Blue Martini goes for you.
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02-13-2017 , 09:00 AM
If you're in your 20's take some random class at Community College that appeals to women.
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02-13-2017 , 09:50 AM
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Doesn't it look a bit pathetic, creepy, etc to go to a bar by yourself? Or for that matter doing much of anything by yourself?
Personally I don't think so, but it depends on how you carry yourself while there. If you are eyeballing every girl that walks by you're going to look like the typical dude. While I'm no expert on Vegas local life, I would think staying off strip would be key.

When I was single I lived in a happening part of Dallas. There was a wine bar less than 100 yards from my door. I started going there by myself before I had friends in the area. I was social with the staff, but didn't really approach any women. In a very short while women would see me alone and would come by and start talking to me.

I would say more than anything is to just put yourself in places/situations where you can meet women. i had given up on trying to meet anyone when I met my wife. I reluctantly went to a happy hour for my triathlon team and my now wife sat at the end of the table next to me. I got her number from a girl on the team and we went out that week. The rest is history.
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02-13-2017 , 05:02 PM
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In a very short while women would see me alone and would come by and start talking to me.
I'm guessing you adhered very closely to rules 1 & 2?
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02-13-2017 , 05:35 PM
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Personally I don't think so, but it depends on how you carry yourself while there. If you are eyeballing every girl that walks by you're going to look like the typical dude.
+1

If you're eye****ing every woman who walks in, you look weird, whether you're alone or in a group. And if you look like you're there (whether "there" means a bar or restaurant or wall climb or a Bible study) to enjoy yourself, you're going to look like a normal person and maximize your chance of a relationship - whether you're alone or in a group.

That being said, I do think it's a bit weird to hang out at a popular bar by yourself. If it's a wine bar or tea bar or something a little offbeat, it probably works better.
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02-13-2017 , 06:16 PM
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I'm guessing you adhered very closely to rules 1 & 2?
Rules 1 & 2?

One of the bartenders, that was a woman, told me I got hit on because I was confident in being there alone. I didn't look sad or lonely and wasn't gawking at ever woman there. Confidence without cockiness is an attractive trait to many women.
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02-13-2017 , 07:00 PM
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Rules 1 & 2?

One of the bartenders, that was a woman, told me I got hit on because I was confident in being there alone. I didn't look sad or lonely and wasn't gawking at ever woman there. Confidence without cockiness is an attractive trait to many women.
+1

If you're out alone and you're confident and comfortable being there by yourself you will get hit on by girls.

Don't lie. If girls ask you who are you here with just tell them the truth. It's a big turn on for them to be approached by a guy who's there by himself,especially if they're in a group.
It conveys alot about you: confidence, self trust, decisiveness etc. Basically, what girls look for in a guy.

Of course, if you're the average 2+2 nerds with no social skills then yeah it will be awkward
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02-13-2017 , 07:30 PM
Wearing a wedding ring only helps..
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02-13-2017 , 09:08 PM
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Wearing a wedding ring only helps..
I think you missed the part where OP is looking for a girl that is a good candidate for a long term relationship and possibly even a future wife, not a girl who is a good candidate for a one night stand.

I'm sure wearing a wedding ring does get you attention from many women, and may well be a good way to get laid. I don't think it's good at attracting women who are wife material though.
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02-13-2017 , 10:23 PM
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I'm sure wearing a wedding ring does get you attention from many women, and may well be a good way to get laid. I don't think it's good at attracting women who are wife material though.
Good point.
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02-14-2017 , 12:01 AM
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Doesn't it look a bit pathetic, creepy, etc to go to a bar by yourself? Or for that matter doing much of anything by yourself?
Can you for once in your life stop making excuses, you asked for advice, I gave you the best advice for your age group and your thread request.

If its broken fix it, stop making excuses for your obvious insecurities and just own your space for once in your life.
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02-14-2017 , 05:57 AM
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Can you for once in your life stop making excuses...If its broken fix it, stop making excuses for your obvious insecurities and just own your space for once in your life.


i wish people like jsplit would stop telling people what they want to hear! bbhaha

and give some real solid advice. jus straight shoot it with me, will you??


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02-14-2017 , 11:29 AM
Online dating is defo the way to go, just grind one of the platforms out in between hands and once you've put in the hours, something should eventually come your way. If you are too cool for that, then yeah, like you said, interest groups are probably your best bet.

As for friends, in my experience, real friends are especially tough to hold in Vegas relative to other areas, so gl.
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02-14-2017 , 04:47 PM
In my experience a lot of the most popular ways to meet girls are the worst, bars, clubs, coffee shops etc... I like one other poster who said just do what you like to do when away from poker, and use that. I would go even more into that and just look to meet people and have fun with out really looking for a girl. I would keep busy with working out, take some classes (not a bad idea to have a back up to poker anyways), join an outdoors club, and just do what you enjoy and look to make friends and not just date. I think becoming a well rounded person and trying to become someone you would want to date is an idea most people should use. I mean would you be more interested in a girl who is focused on looking for a guy, or going to the gym to keep in shape, and then taking a class to advance her career, and then going out with friends to do kayaking after? Good luck!
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02-14-2017 , 05:50 PM
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when I was doing more hardcore dating (in Las Vegas) circa 2009-2010, Plenty of Fish worked pretty well for meeting "normal" girls. wound up going on several dates using that website.
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Plenty of Fish was way better back then. I had success getting normal dates around that time but now the site is lacking any woman that are remotely attractive. The few that are cute/pretty are flooded with 100's of messages each day. Match is slightly better but not great. Vegas is tough, I had more success when I lived in New York but I was also much younger then lol. Keep us updated on how Blue Martini goes for you.
Moved to Vegas in February 2011 & met my wife on POF in April 2011. Quit the site the day after my 1st date with her, so can't speak for the last 6 years, though...
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02-14-2017 , 10:09 PM
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Moved to Vegas in February 2011 & met my wife on POF in April 2011.
congrats. I definitely met some girls on there who would have been quality mates for someone (just not me apparently )
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