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Originally Posted by cushlash
Hey man, yea I definitely see where you're coming from, poker can be a dead end job if there's no diversification. A few thoughts on your comments regarding fear: I took a fairly big risk moving out to Vegas with no job, no friends or family, and no tangible reason to believe I could make it as a pro poker player. Thus I traditionally haven't thought of myself as having much fear of failure. However, as it relates to leaving poker, I find myself much less apt to take risks that are probably smaller than the ones I've already taken, which has led me to ask myself in the more recent past whether fear of failure or self-doubt is playing a factor.
Its something I've wrestled with mentally before and try my best to keep out of my decision making process. I have my reasons for still playing poker full-time, which I have discussed in here plenty. I believe they are sound despite knowing that poker isn't my end game.
I'm glad to hear you've found something better since getting out of poker. I think nearly everyone sees similar life improvements when they get out in terms of money/friends/stability as you talk about. Most low stakes grinders would be much better off if they followed suit.
If you don't mind me asking, what are you up to now? I'm always interested to hear what people do post-poker and whether they prefer it to the grind, which it seems you do.
I flipped a couple/few houses. Used my own money and hired my own crew, fixed up and sold them. However its nothing like the late-night TV info commercials advertised where you buy one for $160k, spend $30k, 3 weeks of your time, and them shazzamm, sell it for $240k making a handsome $50k profit margin, rinse & repeat. Doesn't work that way in the real world. Its a LOT of stress, and a LOT of hard work, and a LOT of "trying" to make all of the stars align perfectly to make the deal work.
If you ever think you have a lot of money try getting into the real estate investment business. Reality will strike quickly that the competition is fierce! There's always someone with more money, more marketing connections, better finance deals, willing to take more risk -work for smaller margins, and so on....
Now I'm buying & selling cars. Flipping cars requires much less capital than houses and much less risk. Also smaller margins and lower dollar values, so you have to stay active. I'm operating a small car dealership, spend about 80% of my time sitting at my desk on the computer/phone, and 20% of the time actually moving cars around from the seller to mechanic shop, detail shop, actual face-to-face w/ customers making the sale transaction. Its a neat gig and keeps my mind busy, its all numbers and simple...buy a car for a wholesale price and sell it for a retail price, easy and simple numbers game.
Too add a little residual income to the business I carry quite a few notes and offer personal financing. This is where the *real* money is. I can't claim this was my idea, another poker player who I got to know sitting together at a final table in LA about 10 years ago is doing this and told me about it. He took several hundred thousand from that tournament score and bought a bunch of cars, offered financing and made a BUNCH of money. He lives in North Carolina and no direct competition, he told me what he was doing and I copied his tried & true business plan.