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Originally Posted by Petrucci
How about not being so eager to put players style of play into boxes as LAG or TAG? Poker isnt about predeciding what "style" you are gonna play, but rather be totally open to what is gonna happen at a particular day at a random table-and adjust to what is going on.
It have always been my opinion that good liveplayers are the ones who adjust constantly to the ongoing dynamics,different kind of villains,stacksizes and other peoples patterns. The really good players just makes the play that the spesific situation craves, even though that can be difficult for sure.
Limon have had some good rants on this one, when he explains how alot of players views him as a lag maniac because he is willing to mix it up with whales and loosy goosy players to exploit them, and alot of other players views him as a nutpeddling nit because he always shows up with the goods against them due to them being callingstations so he makes sure to have it.You need to pay attention, then execute the play that is neccesary to exploit the current situation. Its in these areas of the game alot of the magic is hidden, if youre aiming to be like water, you will fit effortlessly in everywhere.
And as Limon states if you master this: "You will become a beast. You will become a beast! People will simply not know how to handle you".
However, being able to constantly adjust and deploying exploitative plays requires that you pay freaking attention- wich OP seems to admit he is not doing. I find this fairly critical for a 2-5 grinder or above playing for a living to be honest, because that fact alone tells me that you simply are unable to gain the neccesary information needed in order to exploit whats happenning right in front of your eyes. If the decent grinder to your left have a sizing tell where he bets half pot with his value hands and close to full pot when he is bluffing, how are you gonna know if youre not paying enough attention? If the whale in the blinds is on likely monkeytilt from being sucked out in a big pot right before you get dealt KK on the button wich you obviously need to flat to let tilted whale blast off pre- how are you gonna know that he is tilted if youre sitting reading on your smartphone?
In my opinion and experience, i believe that paying extreme level of attention whenever i play is one of my biggest edges in livepoker, and i feel it often gets forgot and is not viewed as important as it really is.Alot of regs ive logged alot of hours with through the years have said to me that they are almost shocked about the level of detail that i observe and remember.Many people goes into the trap of thinking i am just a TAG nutpeddler (especially young lags who have seen Dwan videos on youtube and think they are the new hotshot), then they cant phathom how i seem to "always" end up with the money at the end of the night.One of the answers is that i pay attention, and i adjust. You need to be obsessed with it to become really good at it, like you need to know _everything_ that is going on at whatever table you sit at and that your life was depending on it.
Petrucci,
I alluded to those styles to give a very general example of the % of hands that people are playing. There are no ABC's to every style in each box as you stated.
Poker, just like life, is a game of adaptation. I adapt my style to the people I play against, and I gain that information by playing hands against them or watching them play hands against other people. The former is the best way to do it, because there are other thought processes involved against different opponents. Hence I increase my hand % and aggression % and see how my opponents react. Some players will fold 2 pair if I bet 2-3x pot, some will call with one pair. I play very unorthodox and I adjust my entire strategy depending on the opponent who is in the hand with me.
In order to do that, you have to pay attention all the time, but like up swinging said, if you are playing tight and paying attention 100% of the time, you will want to basically kill yourself.
Personally if I am playing a 2/5 reg and I get all my money in against them they are either way behind or a 50/50 at best. Any good player can adapt to a 2/5 or 5/10 reg the same way IMO.
And no matter how good you are, you still get it in at a 70/30 or even 80/20 favorite, you will still lose plenty of times. This is why poker is now fun for me and I got into running businesses instead.
I played with some of the best players in the world back in the old days, and held my own just fine. I just chose not to pursue the lifestyle for many different reasons.
Sorry to derail Cushlash, I am a big fan of your thread, and I respect anyone willing to take the pro route. I did it myself for 8 years, and it taught me so much about life that I can't even begin to explain. It also helped me bankroll my life and my business. 100% grateful for poker, and grateful that I learned so much and took so much away from it.