A guy who has it in him to drop $12K in a weekend might be better off without such attractive future offers.

OP,

FYI if you ever drop over $10k again, I recommend asking your host (or at VIP if you don’t have a host at that property) if there’s anything they can do for you. Good chance you can get a check to cover your flight and other travel costs, possibly more depending on your history and type of gambling.

That’s 100% what I wanted to post. Might the best for OP to keep that GF or replace her with somebody equally anti-gambling.

FWIW, I highly doubt that not playing on the host trip would screw him for life. Do you guys really think he wouldn’t get any good future offers if he dropped another $12k on his next LV weekend? I don’t think Caesars hosts would have excluded Terrance Watanabe for life if he didn’t gamble on one comped trip.

Does your actual loss count, or just the expected loss?

I am skeptical that if you place a single $10,000 wager and lose, the casino would comp you on an actual loss of $10,000. I expect they would comp on the $500ish house edge they got.

Is 12k really that much? That is probably a somewhat average loss for a weekend in Vegas for most gamblers....def would suck obv.

I don't understand the "screwing over your host" comments here, hosts basically prey on problem gamblers and convince them to come into town and keep losing ...not exactly the most ethical profession. It would be different if it was your usual host and you have a good relationship with them....

I have burned comp bridges all over town.. as Omar would say..

My favorite place to watch them but I lately get a day at the end of the trip at the B, post up in the room with the lady and a couple bottles and enjoy the fountains synced to the music from inside everyone’s got their Vegas “thing” and the Cosmo is lately my go to for the majority of stays

In a survey published recently, the average gambling budget for a Vegas trip was around $600. Even if you factor in shamed under-reporting, $12K is pretty huge for most gamblers.

Cal: yeah, as I wrote, the type of gambling matters. But absolute amount lost matters too. Most importantly, it means you’re the kind of person who has that amount and is able/willing to lose it.

Matt: 12k is a huge loss in Vegas for most gamblers.

Canoe/Nat: Aria vs Cosmo pros/cons please (I’ve stayed at aria a bunch, never stayed at Cosmo).

I'm the OP - This probably accurately reflects me.....
I like to gamble - can afford to (to a degree) - but have no control once I'm there. Luckily not many places to gamble around here, so it stops me being stupid too often. As I said - usually stick to poker or around + or - $1k per trip.

Having GF with me - will definitely stop me gambling. Maybe taking the host's offer will be a way of "self excluding" myself. If I don't get new offers - I'd be less tempted.

$12k isn't going to bankrupt me, but it may mean I won't pay off the car loan as quickly - or take a nicer vacation - (Outside of a suite and $900 comps in Vegas )

I definitely don't want the host hassling me about not playing or introducing himself while I'm with the GF or finding $900 added to my check because I didn't gamble.

a. Contact Host
b. Re-introduce yourself
c. Remind him of his offer and thank him
d. Tell him you want to bring your new girlfriend, but she doesn't gamble (do not say "disapproves") and your visit will be shows, sightseeing etc. No gambling
e. Tell him you understand that "no gambling" is a problem for host/hotel.
f. Ask him what he can do for you, knowing that you won't be doing any gambling THIS TRIP

I‘m pretty sure people who lose $12k+ are in the 5 percentile of Vegas tourists, maybe in the 1 percentile.

The average LV tourist spend $619 on gambling in 2016 and that was a significant increase over 2015. Back in 2012, the number was around $450:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...vegas-visitor/

To get to a $12k theoretical loss as an average blackjack player (2% house edge), you need to wager $600k. For optimal basic strategy with a 0.5% house edge, you‘d need to wager $2.4mil. That is a lot of money.

Or you could play craps - and chase your losses

OP should Go Gamble.

Cuz #YOLO

Question for the comps pros itt. Do hosts have the ability to maintain an offer into the future? I started getting offers from the V after my trip last year and won't be going back until this June. Currently the offers only extend until April, and standard customer service can't tell me if the offer would be available during wsop (I assume not, I'm no baller). This last offer sent has a name and phone number, I expect that's a host? Do they have more wherewithal than the drones?

OP, what about your gf finding out what type of customers receive those comps after she gets back home and tells everyone? Or was she going to think you paid for it?

"OP, what about your gf finding out what type of customers receive those comps after she gets back home and tells everyone? Or was she going to think you paid for it?"

She'll think I've paid for it - it's her birthday w/e after all... Suite, nice restaurants etc - that's why I'm concerned about a host coming up to us or being hassled while I'm there.

Not sure how that would happen as the host emailed me and doesn't have my tel #.

Beginning to think it's not worth the hassle...

That won’t happen, they know to be discreet.


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Or just forget all this and stay at the Flamingo. Then the GF won't want to go to Vegas any more.

This makes sense to me. Because it is a percentage of your expected loss, you are actually making expected value (saving money) when you don't get more comps. So take the offer and don't gamble.

There's some very marginal advice in here. At best I would play a few hands, I doubt the host ever says anything to you. I absolutely wouldn't contact him for any reason. Take your comps and enjoy the trip.

they basically go off of your theoretical loss.
if you bet high enough you could do better than that.
for example if you bet a million dollars on a blackjack hand and lost (assuming the casino would actually take the bet)you would do better than your theoretical loss because they know you're one of the few people with the means to dump so much money gambling.

omg at the people worried about his host. some computer algorithm spit out an email signed by a host that works there. it's not some handwritten note delivered to a personal friend. if i were to drop 12k in vegas, i'd think that the next trip getting comped even if i give no action is all part of the deal and price it in. sure, it sucks for whichever host holds the bag on that one, but that's just the luck of the draw.

I think the people who think nothing of taking the comps don't even understand the opportunity cost they're dismissing.

The immediate value of this trip is significant. But so is the value of subsequent offers after this trip. If you save these comps for a gambling trip, you potentially could get multiple offers.

Eventually, they will figure out you won't drop 12k every trip (or you'll find out you will, lol) ... but you don't want to make it as easy for them to figure out as gambling ZERO on your first trip. If you defer the comps to a gambling trip, and run a few k through the system, you may get a second offer that's worse than the first but still valuable. And then you might get a third offer. Or a fourth. And by the time they cut you off, you'll have received offers totalling 2-3x the initial offer.

yes the great opportunity to dust off 12k again

What do you think he will remember about that gambling trip?
Those awesome multiple offers he took advantage of or that he dropped $12k again?