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Old 01-02-2018, 05:02 AM   #26
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If you're looking for a cheap way to get to Vegas, a bus or train is going to be a lot cheaper than flying.
Not too sure about that one. One way flights are ~$100-130 right now from my location.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:05 AM   #27
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It's not easy without a car to look around for rooms and housing. You can find an airbnb to start, but to be honest, it's going to be hard to look around for permanent housing and work without a mode of transportation. There are buses that go up and down the strip and to other major areas but you have to be lucky to find a job and also live on the same bus route. You're going to have to depend on Uber or Lyft to get around so that will ultimately depend on your budget to start out.

As Pure Aggression mentioned check out the LVL forum, there are some older threads about short term housing.
Okay thank you for the info. Maybe getting a vehicle is optimal and I'll budget to buy one when I arrive. I highly doubt any place in America has worse public transportation than the city of Detroit, though. I'd be happy to walk 2-6 miles a day for the first little while, maybe even further.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:23 AM   #28
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Fly in ... shuttle to Aria ... BI to JRB's game and start to network. JRB may even let you sleep on the couch if his wife is out of town!

What's your timetable? It may take a bit for this thread to get you more information.

Please don't trust Craigslist without first verifying as much as you can. There are scammers out there renting houses/apartments (and collecting Security Deposits) that they don't even have a key for! Some of the other sites are probably more reliable.

I agree with madlex ... try to scout the work situation a bit before you get there. It may help you determine where to look for a crib. Vegas is not an easy place to get around at times.

Bankroll/stakes played and 'minimum' time you going to give it a try? You can rent/lease a condo/room for anywhere from 1 week to 6 months if you give it a look.

We tend to worry about someone who is so focused on 'cheap' and 'easy' (and probably throw 'quick' in there as well) when it comes to chasing a poker dream. The last thing you want to be worried about at the table is making rent payment(s) the next day. GL
Thank you very much for your input. I've been to Las Vegas twice, once by myself. I'm not worried at all about being scammed because I simply cannot be scammed by things like that.

I have no timetable. I essentially want to take a shot at Vegas and it's very doable as long as I don't run bad right away. I've put in thousands of hours and over the past 600 it's about $23/hour. It is a dream, I guess. But the main reasons for the move is game selection, economy, and weather. I make more money moving to Vegas in comps, from game selection, and food selection (nowhere to eat here anymore, especially after 10 pm.) I go to the casino every day already, if not two or three times a day. I figure if I took a one-way, got an AirBnb for 3-4 days, played all day long every day, and took even a decent upswing, then I would stay longer. If I'm doing well enough after a week, then I'll rent a place for an additional week or so, and go from there. I think it's a cheap/efficient way to move there without having to get a job right away. If I do not do as well as I hoped playing poker, then I simply fly home after my last day, and save up and try again.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:31 AM   #29
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It sounds like you don't have a plan or really anything going for you that would make this a good idea. I wanted to move to Vegas for years, but knew I wasn't ready. Find a job before you move here, get a car. As MSchu said, the lower budget side of Vegas is not pretty.
Maybe the way I typed it was poor. I've been planning for years. I pretty much decided on how I'm going to take shots on getting down there. I really don't want to get a job. I think it's taking a step backwards. I want to move there only when I can play poker full-time. I have to take shots and hope I run well. But my game is solid and I'm certain my years of planning and studying will only lead to happiness in the land of poker, Las Vegas. I love playing games and it's all I want to do. I also can make a living reselling items if I have to, as I have done that for many years as well. I detailed how I will take the shots on moving to Vegas in a response to another comment.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:38 AM   #30
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Vegas on the cheap is not a pretty sight... secure a job before doing anything unless you like working service industry jobs.

Play semi professional for a few years... after that you'll have a better idea of what the life is like.

After a few years, if you actually last that long, I can almost guarantee you your outlook on poker will have changed.
I don't work right now and how made my way to about $23/hour the past 600 hours but I've logged thousands of hours total. I used to play tournaments, online tournaments, etc. But for the past 5-6 years I strictly focused on live NL Hold Em cash games. I'm going to take a shot and hope I run well then gradually extend my stay. Worst case scenario is I fly home. I have a home to live here. Very little risk and I don't want to have to work a job. I want to move down there and play right away.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:47 AM   #31
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Ok dude here's my input... I moved here with minimal stuff 5 years ago. I grey hounded it from the east coast and I Fed Exed my **** via ground 3 big boxes and I timed it right I beat my **** here by 2 days total move cost plus me 320 dollars that's the bus ticket and Fed Ex ground. When I got here I already been google mapping the city so I already new my way around> No matter where you are in the city always Look for a reference point I always used the Statosphere and the strip if I ever got lost to find my way back but I never got lost. So the **** I had with me I pushed over to the plaza and took an airport shuttle to the airport to rent a car and I got one for 2 days and I slept in the car for two days and in those 2 days I searched craigslist for a roommate situation and I found one quickly on the third day Now I moved here already having money so it's easier for me then it might be for you unless you are bringing a life roll. Whatever you do don't listen to other posters telling you to get a Weekly I am telling you that you won't be happy I never lived in one nor would I. Get yourself a roommate situation and It will be safe and cheaper then a weekly situation at least until you found a job I been here 5 years and never need a car Public transporation worked great for me but I am ready to finally get a car now that my credit score is working in my favor. Also if and when you're ready get a job based on tips if you're a customer service type and are talkative you'll make money don't settle for a 10.00 an hour job!!


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Thank you so much for your response. Great input. I'm just taking a shot. I've decided on not getting a job and just putting in a lot of hours when I first arrive, then gradually staying longer. I have a female friend moving to Vegas in March as well, so that roommate situation is possible. I'm not as desperate to move there as you may have been. I have a place to stay here and I'm thankful for that. But it's time for me to move where I need to be to succeed properly. I detailed how I would take a shot on moving to Vegas in another comment. Thanks again for your input bud.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:49 AM   #32
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I like the roommate option ... Just keep your mouth shut on 'most' of your situation to the roomie. You are 'always' broke and you 'always' break even at poker. If you bring home a new toy you got it from a guy who boosted it off some other guy. GL
Good advice. I already don't speak of my bankroll and winrate to a soul. Besides the souls on here who don't know me personally.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:56 AM   #33
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Just so you are aware, this is not the best part of town. It's not the worst, but it is definitely not what I would call nice. The problem with not having a car, a reliable source of income, and needing to play poker, is that you pretty much restrict yourself to places like this around the strip and in the downtown area. If you had a car, I'd suggest you should try to avoid the whole downtown/Strip area altogether. I work downtown and I have seen some ****, literally and figuratively. Unless you were in the condo that Andrew Neeme lives in (or something similar to higher in price), I can't think of any other place you'd want to live in that area.

If you wanted to do the weekly/monthly route instead of finding roommates, I think you'd be better off at Budget Suites by the Orleans. The people I got weed from who lived there were nice people. It's definitely still sketchy but seems less so than other options. And it's a short bus ride to the strip on Tropicana.
I'm from probably the worst city in America. I walked through some "bad parts" of Las Vegas at 3 am. I wouldn't be alive if I did that in Detroit, but I simply wouldn't attempt that here. There's a reason Subway and Jimmy John's close at 6 pm in Detroit, lol. Las Vegas is beautiful compared to here. Plus I've already scoured www.city-data.com and watched many vlogs from people who live there and gave their input on the areas to live.
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:15 PM   #34
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Business is down in Vegas, I can tell by the number of promotions I get in the mail. I'm a low limit player, maybe ~$500 buy in per day, and I get offers for free rooms all the time.

Maybe you could parlay some new player card type of promotions into free rooms for a bit. Off strip, Boyd Gaming (Stations) and the downtown properties seem to be the easiest places to score a room.

With the weather being so cold seems like a good time to leave Detroit. 75 degrees here today. Good luck.
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:29 PM   #35
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Business is down in Vegas, I can tell by the number of promotions I get in the mail. I'm a low limit player, maybe ~$500 buy in per day, and I get offers for free rooms all the time.

Maybe you could parlay some new player card type of promotions into free rooms for a bit. Off strip, Boyd Gaming (Stations) and the downtown properties seem to be the easiest places to score a room.

With the weather being so cold seems like a good time to leave Detroit. 75 degrees here today. Good luck.
I am hoping I can use Play Promotions or comps for free rooms. I was racking up my points at Caesar's in Canada, which is close by, for the promotions. But sadly the year ended and so did my points. Great time to leave Detroit. It's 10 degrees here dangerous to drive.
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:49 PM   #36
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NOT a great time to leave Detroit ... $1Million BBJ at one casino and the action junkies are at the other two to get away from the 'dream' chasers punting off $80 at a time at MCC.

On the flip side I think you will find the LV action at 1/3 or 2/5 very comparable to the 1/2 action (not at MCC) in Michigan. You may want to wait for May and the WSOP to give Vegas a try, but you will need to start booking your 'room' soon for that. If you know other Detroiters that might be out there for the Series, you could rent to them during their stay to help you expenses too.

Have you been to Cleveland, Columbus(OH), Cincinnati, Chicago, Milwaukee or even Pittsburgh to test those waters? You could chase the WSOPc, HPT and MSPT all across the region and just play cash while those tours are on location while still maintaining home base in Detroit.

It certainly would be hard to convince the 'young' me to not go to Vegas. I stayed at what I think is now the Ellis Hotel behind Bally's for over a week and just walked to the strip with ease from there. Might be able to swing a weekly or monthly rate there somehow if you tell them to cut back on the maid service. (It's $25 a night today!)

Your airfare is probably dirt cheap on Spirit (and mostly non-stop from DTW), especially if you don't check a bag. I just bring two backpacks. If you think you might make a few trips, then join their club and save even more. GL
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Old 01-03-2018, 03:20 AM   #37
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NOT a great time to leave Detroit ... $1Million BBJ at one casino and the action junkies are at the other two to get away from the 'dream' chasers punting off $80 at a time at MCC.

On the flip side I think you will find the LV action at 1/3 or 2/5 very comparable to the 1/2 action (not at MCC) in Michigan. You may want to wait for May and the WSOP to give Vegas a try, but you will need to start booking your 'room' soon for that. If you know other Detroiters that might be out there for the Series, you could rent to them during their stay to help you expenses too.

Have you been to Cleveland, Columbus(OH), Cincinnati, Chicago, Milwaukee or even Pittsburgh to test those waters? You could chase the WSOPc, HPT and MSPT all across the region and just play cash while those tours are on location while still maintaining home base in Detroit.

It certainly would be hard to convince the 'young' me to not go to Vegas. I stayed at what I think is now the Ellis Hotel behind Bally's for over a week and just walked to the strip with ease from there. Might be able to swing a weekly or monthly rate there somehow if you tell them to cut back on the maid service. (It's $25 a night today!)

Your airfare is probably dirt cheap on Spirit (and mostly non-stop from DTW), especially if you don't check a bag. I just bring two backpacks. If you think you might make a few trips, then join their club and save even more. GL
Thanks for your input. It sounds like you're familiar with Motor City. There is more action there than probably any casino in Las Vegas, according to Bravo. I take it you're from the area of Detroit. I can't base my life around the bad beat jackpot either. I know it's big, and I'll be around Detroit for a little bit longer. It would be nice to hit, yes, but only 10 people can hit. I could sleep in my chair for the next 60 days and still have a less than 5% chance of getting a table share. The weather in Las Vegas is a big thing for me as well as more places to eat for a single man who does not want to cook ever. The comps, the game selection, better ability to move up stakes, way more tourists, way more regs, more women, better public trans, and much ****ing more.

I don't want to go anywhere else besides Las Vegas really. I went other places. I've been playing for about 15 years and going to casinos for 12 years. Las Vegas should be my home base. I'll always have a home here, in the Detroit area, about 15 minutes from all 4 casinos. Every time I fly back to Detroit I will always have the beautiful Motor City to scratch my poker itch.

Spirit is dirt cheap right now. $100-130 for a one-way. AirBnb rooms are from $21-35 very close to the strip. It's super low-cost right now. Easy to take a shot. Very soon I'm thinking and I will go. Just have to get a few more ducks in a row.
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WSOP isn't the only good time to play. The CES conference going on soon (1/9 thru 1/12) has the easiest games I've ever played. Foreign guy once called my ~$300 all in with ten high on a AAK34 board. I had AK and raised pre-flop. That was four years ago and I'm still shocked.

I am going to drive to Vegas just to play that week.
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WSOP isn't the only good time to play. The CES conference going on soon (1/9 thru 1/12) has the easiest games I've ever played. Foreign guy once called my ~$300 all in with ten high on a AAK34 board. I had AK and raised pre-flop. That was four years ago and I'm still shocked.

I am going to drive to Vegas just to play that week.
WSOP would be great to play. But I'd like to be down there months before that happens. Las Vegas is better on average than anywhere else. I can always live there and venture out to other places when Vegas is slow. That's also unreal. Lol ten high? I have to fight for every pot here! I hope one attempt at Vegas will be enough and it should only be one attempt. I'm understanding and happy regardless if I have to come home, save up, and try again. My game is solid, though. It's difficult to take a huge downswing in $1/2. It's rare, so hopefully that rare occurrence won't happen on my attempt for LV. I'm bringing 9-10 buy-in's and staying 4 days and 3 nights. Likely 3 full days of play.
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It's difficult to take a huge downswing in $1/2. It's rare, so hopefully that rare occurrence won't happen on my attempt for LV. I'm bringing 9-10 buy-in's and staying 4 days and 3 nights. Likely 3 full days of play.
Go do it!! I think you will find a lot of the 1/2 play like MCC is now with the BBJ chasers. I also think you 'need' to play some 1/3 at Aria or Bellagio to get a real feel for LV poker. I've found the morning games at Bellagio to be quite nice with mostly out-of-towners instead of the regs that will flock into poker rooms to start filling their comp time requirements.

The worst case of reg 'squatting' that I saw was at TI, they have a bonus based on hours of play and I think you have to collect it on Sunday or you don't get it ... something like that. But it was like $150 for playing 20 hours. Even though we stayed there for a week I only played one night due to the table dynamic I saw. GL
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Go do it!! I think you will find a lot of the 1/2 play like MCC is now with the BBJ chasers. I also think you 'need' to play some 1/3 at Aria or Bellagio to get a real feel for LV poker. I've found the morning games at Bellagio to be quite nice with mostly out-of-towners instead of the regs that will flock into poker rooms to start filling their comp time requirements.

The worst case of reg 'squatting' that I saw was at TI, they have a bonus based on hours of play and I think you have to collect it on Sunday or you don't get it ... something like that. But it was like $150 for playing 20 hours. Even though we stayed there for a week I only played one night due to the table dynamic I saw. GL
Thanks for the encouragement. I'll probably play at the Venetian because it's $1/2 and not $1/3, giving me couple extra buy-ins. I might venture elsewhere but first the Venetian. Any table dynamic will do for me. I'd like an easy game but I will take what I can get. I'm used to playing the same exact regs over and over.
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When will you move t Vegas please? I am thinking of it too.
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I agree with answer20 about TI - okay to stay, but don't play there. My first visit to Vegas was this past summer. Five days at Bally's and two weeks at TI. (TI told me "it was illegal" to stay at there more than two weeks.) Played 1/2 NL mostly at Caesar's and Venetian. Both were good games. With that limited sample, I thought Caesar's was softer and there were more pros (still only occasional) at Venetian. Watch the button straddles, different rules in different casinos.
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Five days at Bally's and two weeks at TI. (TI told me "it was illegal" to stay at there more than two weeks.)
Not 'illegal' but a policy that some hotels have to prevent them from getting into sticky situations.

Hotel/Motel are supposed to be for 'transient' visits. If you stay more than 30 days you 'can' actually become a resident and this status changes a couple of things:
1) You are now considered a 'renter' and they can't collect most taxes from you.
2) You are more difficult to kick out if you aren't paying them.

Some will let you check in and out the same day, thus re-setting the clock on this condition.

Most places throw the 2 week 'scare' at you because they figure after an extended stay your gambling will drop off significantly and (guess what) they aren't really there to provide lodging. GL
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given the number of motel/hotel rooms in Vegas one could move every week and not stay in the same place twice in a year.

Just stayed at Sam's Town comped, nice property and they seemed to appreciate the business. Tipped the guy $10 at check in and got a big suite free upgrade.

Had some equipment in my truck that needed to be watched, for $10 the valet guy parked it in the front right next to him.
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