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03-14-2024 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TuscaloosaJohnny
One of my great laments was never playing that O'Shea's game...and I'm not sure why I never did because I always had the goal to play in as many poker rooms as possible back in the salad days of all-poker-all-the-time.
Osheas was a drunken **** show of a game. It was truly glorious.
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03-14-2024 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BigWhale
I played $0.50/$1.00 at Bill's Gambling Hall (!) - which I believe is now The Cromwell - back in 2011 during my first ever poker trip to Vegas. I bought in for $200, which was the max, and the entire table looked at me like I was this crazy high roller. Most sat with stacks between $40-$100 if I remember correctly, and game was obviously super nitty. Which at the time suited me well.

(who am I kidding, I am still only able to beat super passive games even now)
I didn't know who he was at the time, but now remember that it was quite a spectacle to see TBC blowing up after every beat he took when I sat with him in the .5/1 game at Bill's in 07'
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03-14-2024 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
Caesars games are horrible anyway
false. i saw some serious gamble at 1/3 this past week. late night sessions tho.
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03-16-2024 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Fun fact: It's been over 10 years since the Linq Promenade opened with the new O'Sheas. I think the rest of the property rebranded from Quad to Linq at some point in 2014.

Will never forget when a dealer asked me where my accent came from and I told him I was originally from Germany. Then he told me that they celebrated Hitler's birthday in the hotel back in the day. At that time, in the early smartphone days you weren't allowed to use your phone at most poker rooms. So I had to get up to look it up on the internet.
The owner of the IP was a huge Nazi. He had a big car collection, but his prized pieces were Nazi cars. It was always rumored he had a huge Nazi war memorabilia collection; Plates Hitler ate off of and stuff like that.

Crazy.
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03-16-2024 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
When it rains hard if you got to the parking garage you see at its core it's still the IP.
Everyone who has ever been to Vegas has at one time or another smelled that horrible sewer smell on occasion. It comes from how they collect every drop of water they can in order to preserve Lake Mead.

That smell seems to be a permanent fixture in the IP/Linq
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03-17-2024 , 02:27 AM
Really hoping to hit the Big O game at Caesars when I visit in April. Wonder if it’s a lot of action or full of nits
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03-21-2024 , 09:57 AM
You never know what you're going to get for action in Vegas during 'slow' times. I would assume Cesars will be much better than The Orleans game but I have heard stories of a large number of Regs who sit around Cesars collecting comps.

The one thing about Vegas is that you really have to be flexible and table select. A game may be great and then falls apart when two Players leave .. that's your sign to look at the options elsewhere in the room or other venues. I rarely hear about 'great' long sessions unless it was at one of the larger rooms.

With NCAA going on some of those weekends will be very busy .. perhaps not so much during the week. GL
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03-21-2024 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JimL
Everyone who has ever been to Vegas has at one time or another smelled that horrible sewer smell on occasion. It comes from how they collect every drop of water they can in order to preserve Lake Mead.

That smell seems to be a permanent fixture in the IP/Linq
There is Lake Harrah's at the back of the parking garage when it rains...
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04-02-2024 , 12:22 PM
Red Rock, Santa Fe, and Boulder Station all raised rake on April 1 to $6 + $2. It seems like a matter of time before MGM and others follow suit. I would guess before WSOP or June 1.
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04-02-2024 , 09:11 PM
The start of the WSOP season seems like the traditional time to raise the rake on the strip.
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04-04-2024 , 04:57 PM
Sad state of affairs. Vegas used to be the most reasonable rake in the country, now it is as bad or worse than most places. At least Bellagio and Wynn don’t do promos and have five max rake and good action. In Maryland the rake at most places is 5 plus 3 promo (3 promo is bad, at least they have good promos often and give it back but I’d rather it not exist). I do my best to only play time games or non jackpot games like plo or five card.
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05-13-2024 , 06:53 PM
Why do people insist on continuing to play at Horseshoe and Caesars Palace and pay the highest rake in Vegas? Every trip report I read on here shows the OP playing in these rooms.

Why let them get away with increasing the rake when no other strip properties have? If everyone boycotted them they would be forced to lower it back down.
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05-13-2024 , 08:09 PM
If you keep posting about it, it will change.

I believe in you.
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05-13-2024 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wsopfinaltable
Why let them get away with increasing the rake when no other strip properties have? If everyone boycotted them they would be forced to lower it back down.
There's a minimum rake you need to stay in business. Other rooms are trying to fight this but they'll all eventually raise theirs too. You can't keep paying your employees minimum wage when your city doesn't have minimum wage living arrangements.
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05-13-2024 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wsopfinaltable
Why do people insist on continuing to play at Horseshoe and Caesars Palace and pay the highest rake in Vegas? Every trip report I read on here shows the OP playing in these rooms.

Why let them get away with increasing the rake when no other strip properties have? If everyone boycotted them they would be forced to lower it back down.
Maybe the majority of players are less rake sensitive than you are.

If you asked tourists entering the Horseshoe poker room what the max rake was, how many do you think would know?
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05-13-2024 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wsopfinaltable
Why do people insist on continuing to play at Horseshoe and Caesars Palace and pay the highest rake in Vegas? Every trip report I read on here shows the OP playing in these rooms.

Why let them get away with increasing the rake when no other strip properties have? If everyone boycotted them they would be forced to lower it back down.
You're talking about the Vegas strip where people play 6/5 BJ triple zero roulette and 50 dollar a night "resort fees".
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05-14-2024 , 08:02 AM
While 'probably' not obligated to do so, most people feel it's necessary to play at the facility that 'probably' gave them some room comps or reduced rates or free play or some other form of incentive to travel to their properties.

I tend to agree that a lot of Recs may not be aware of how rake impacts the game long term. Most only care that there are or are not promos ongoing but gloss over how those are funded.

The majority of home games in our area charge $10, but provide 'any' food or drink that a Player may want .. and believe me, some of the requests are both laughable and presumptuous of their status in the game. Players don't really want to pay that, but when it's the 'only' game they want to play in at that time/day then it is what it is .. the American way of supply and demand. GL
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05-17-2024 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wsopfinaltable
Why do people insist on continuing to play at Horseshoe and Caesars Palace and pay the highest rake in Vegas? Every trip report I read on here shows the OP playing in these rooms.

Why let them get away with increasing the rake when no other strip properties have? If everyone boycotted them they would be forced to lower it back down.
I checked the games a few times to see if maybe its no pros/regs cuz of the rake (the ol’ negreanu argument that rake is good!) and it was a pro fest. Idk what they are doing.
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05-18-2024 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomark
I checked the games a few times to see if maybe its no pros/regs cuz of the rake (the ol’ negreanu argument that rake is good!) and it was a pro fest. Idk what they are doing.
Caesars does have the best comps, and if you're getting a Locals mailer then there are very good incentives to play there on specific days.
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Yesterday , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wsopfinaltable
Why do people insist on continuing to play at Horseshoe and Caesars Palace and pay the highest rake in Vegas? Every trip report I read on here shows the OP playing in these rooms.

Why let them get away with increasing the rake when no other strip properties have? If everyone boycotted them they would be forced to lower it back down.
You're probably mistaken about what the result of your boycott will be. The likely result would be one more room closed and more square feet of slots.
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Yesterday , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
You're probably mistaken about what the result of your boycott will be. The likely result would be one more room closed and more square feet of slots.
yeah nobody is lowering rake ever.
more likely looking for an excuse to close
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Yesterday , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Langdon
yeah nobody is lowering rake ever.
more likely looking for an excuse to close
My market has three casinos with poker rooms.

Last year, the room with the most traffic raised rake to $6. While the other two rooms kept theirs at $5.

The PLO and $20/40 players threatened to move their games to a different casino. The poker room lowered their rake back to $5, but kept the NLHE rake at $6. The NLHE players moved en masse to the other rooms. That casino lowered their rake back to $5 after 3 or 4 months. But the players didn't come back. They took in $660,000 less in rake compared to the prior year due to loss of traffic.
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Yesterday , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Man Coffee
My market has three casinos with poker rooms.

Last year, the room with the most traffic raised rake to $6. While the other two rooms kept theirs at $5.

The PLO and $20/40 players threatened to move their games to a different casino. The poker room lowered their rake back to $5, but kept the NLHE rake at $6. The NLHE players moved en masse to the other rooms. That casino lowered their rake back to $5 after 3 or 4 months. But the players didn't come back. They took in $660,000 less in rake compared to the prior year due to loss of traffic.
I don't believe that will ever happen in Vegas.
but if a LV room lowers rake, you can let me know
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Yesterday , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Langdon
I don't believe that will ever happen in Vegas.
but if a LV room lowers rake, you can let me know
Not exactly a big change, but Bellagio did change the rake structure on their 2-5 games last year to be ever so slightly more favorable. It's still $5 max, but the rake points used to be 10-30-50-70-100, now it's 20-40-60-80-100.

A very minor reduction but it does result in ever so slightly less going down the chute per hour.
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Today , 10:24 AM
It's not LV, but a room in our area drastically lowered their rake on the one night a week when the competition is the steepest. It worked out very well for them and the majority of the customers understand and appreciate that the rake remains 'normal' on the other nights the room is open. GL
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