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05-22-2018 , 03:29 PM
I, for one, recognized he sarcastic nature of your post.

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05-22-2018 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gambit2300
Now it even makes less sense. , $6 in the blinds and he limped in to isolate? Even if that is true, then there was already $10 in the pot, The Limper and the BB since the SB folded. $10 is a qualifier so I can smell the made up story from here, it smells a lot like Bullsht.

Did you even try to think it through?

Blind vs blind, would have chopped but were checking it down because "do you have a jackpot hand?" Didn't note or realize $10 was needed. Not that tough to comprehend.
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05-22-2018 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
Blind vs blind, would have chopped but were checking it down because "do you have a jackpot hand?" Didn't note or realize $10 was needed. Not that tough to comprehend.
This is obviously a bullsht urban Legend, the only way it has just $8 is blind vs blind and thinking pocket aces didn't bet is a joke, and when the Royal hit no one bet $4 or $8 is unbelievable and no one who works in the room didn't confirm anything just a friend of mines friend was there, I also hit the lotto on my same numbers I play every week but I forgot to play. That is about as believable.
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05-22-2018 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gambit2300
This is obviously a bullsht urban Legend, the only way it has just $8 is blind vs blind and thinking pocket aces didn't bet is a joke, and when the Royal hit no one bet $4 or $8 is unbelievable and no one who works in the room didn't confirm anything just a friend of mines friend was there, I also hit the lotto on my same numbers I play every week but I forgot to play. That is about as believable.
If you've never seen two OMC low limit players check it down in the blinds to try and hit a jackpot then you must have started playing poker yesterday.
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05-22-2018 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
If you've never seen two OMC low limit players check it down in the blinds to try and hit a jackpot then you must have started playing poker yesterday.
There are indeed tons of these exact sort of players, especially in a 4/8 LHE game.

But the type of players that do this are also the type of players that are completely obsessed with the BBJP. They would 100% know that you needed $10 in the pot to win it, and exactly what hands qualified and what hands didn't. In fact, they would probably make sure every new player at the table knew all the rules if the BBJP as soon as they sat down.

That's the strangest thing about this story.
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05-22-2018 , 10:10 PM
I've seen lots of times where both players just say check check check without even looking at the board.
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05-23-2018 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I've seen lots of times where both players just say check check check without even looking at the board.
If the small blind and Big Blind do that why not just chop the blinds right away? Just toss the small blind his 2 chips back and it is over.

Still no one from the Orleans has chimed in yet? Makes you wounder if this really happened.
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05-23-2018 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gambit2300
If the small blind and Big Blind do that why not just chop the blinds right away? Just toss the small blind his 2 chips back and it is over.

Still no one from the Orleans has chimed in yet? Makes you wounder if this really happened.
Because one of them asked the other if he had a jackpot hand (never mind that virtually every hand can make a jackpot, depending on the rules there), and they decided to check it down to try and hit it. I see some version of this literally EVERY time I play poker.

I don't know if the whole story is true or not either, but I can absolutely see how it could have happened.
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05-23-2018 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
Because one of them asked the other if he had a jackpot hand (never mind that virtually every hand can make a jackpot, depending on the rules there), and they decided to check it down to try and hit it. I see some version of this literally EVERY time I play poker.

I don't know if the whole story is true or not either, but I can absolutely see how it could have happened.
But if the are specifically only playing the hand to win the BBJP, why didn't they make sure they had $10 in the pot on the river?

The only explanation I can think of is that they didn't know the rules, but the type of players that agree to play for the BBJP instead of chopping always know the rules of the BBJP.

Or maybe someone misread their hand?
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05-23-2018 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gambit2300
Still no one from the Orleans has chimed in yet? Makes you wounder if this really happened.
Did you miss the post mentioning that Miami John Cernuto tweeted about it?





Sure, he doesn't work there (and I think an employee of the room probably won't be identifying themselves as such on this forum), but it's very believable that he was in the room playing in what is the biggest regular LO/8 game in Vegas.
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05-23-2018 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
Did you miss the post mentioning that Miami John Cernuto tweeted about it?





Sure, he doesn't work there (and I think an employee of the room probably won't be identifying themselves as such on this forum), but it's very believable that he was in the room playing in what is the biggest regular LO/8 game in Vegas.
For one I do not follow MiamiJohnC, played with him at the Hard Rock in Florida and if he told me he was wearing a Full Tilt hat I would have to check it to see if he was not really wearing a Poker Stars hat.

BTW what a long way he has fallen, hanging out at the
Orleans?
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05-23-2018 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
But if the are specifically only playing the hand to win the BBJP, why didn't they make sure they had $10 in the pot on the river?

The only explanation I can think of is that they didn't know the rules, but the type of players that agree to play for the BBJP instead of chopping always know the rules of the BBJP.

Or maybe someone misread their hand?
I’m actually amazed at how clueless a lot of people are about the rules.
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05-23-2018 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Gambit2300
For one I do not follow MiamiJohnC, played with him at the Hard Rock in Florida and if he told me he was wearing a Full Tilt hat I would have to check it to see if he was not really wearing a Poker Stars hat.

BTW what a long way he has fallen, hanging out at the
Orleans?
Miami John is an Omaha 8 or Better specialist and the Orleans has the highest game in town for that game. I'm sure he can play 200-400 if he wants to, but there is none available.

Feeling sorry for MK because of that stupid jackpot situation.
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05-23-2018 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
Miami John is an Omaha 8 or Better specialist and the Orleans has the highest game in town for that game. I'm sure he can play 200-400 if he wants to, but there is none available.
I am a specialist in typing the same number of characters in all my posts and I'm sure I could compete with the best in the world, but there in none available......
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05-23-2018 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gambit2300
If the small blind and Big Blind do that why not just chop the blinds right away? Just toss the small blind his 2 chips back and it is over.
Because they want a chance at a high hand bonus. I don't think there is a pot size requirement for that.
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05-23-2018 , 08:25 PM
Playing no limit in high bad beat jackpot places like Orleans and Station Casinos is a little stupid. You're in the blind with 89 suited. Someone raises to 5 BB and you have to fold. In limit, you can still call.

Flop comes TJK of your suit for a straight flush. Someone got AK for a royal. Had you played 4-8 limit you'd have your 60 grand. But at 1-3, you're in regret.

If you wanna play NL go to Bellagion, Arian, Venetian, and other places on the Strip. Don't go to Station Casinos or the Orleans.

When I go to Orleans or Red Rock, I only play limit. And so should all of you.
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05-23-2018 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
Playing no limit in high bad beat jackpot places like Orleans and Station Casinos is a little stupid. You're in the blind with 89 suited. Someone raises to 5 BB and you have to fold. In limit, you can still call.

Flop comes TJK of your suit for a straight flush. Someone got AK for a royal. Had you played 4-8 limit you'd have your 60 grand. But at 1-3, you're in regret.

If you wanna play NL go to Bellagio, Aria, Venetian, and other places on the Strip. Don't go to Station Casinos or the Orleans.
Why? You won't pay any less in those rooms, and at Orleans you still have a small chance at the BBJ and other promos. Orleans charges $3 rake plus $2 for promos. Bellagio and Aria charge $5 rake. I think Venetian charges $5 rake plus $1 for promos now.
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05-23-2018 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Why? You won't pay any less in those rooms, and at Orleans you still have a small chance at the BBJ and other promos. Orleans charges $3 rake plus $2 for promos. Bellagio and Aria charge $5 rake. I think Venetian charges $5 rake plus $1 for promos now.
I'm not talking about rake, I'm talking about pain.

You can call a 6 dollar 3 bet in a 4-8 limit game with pocket 4's with the intent of going for the jackpot. The same 3 bet in 1-3 nl could be a 50 dollar call instead of 12. And what if you hit, think of the pain of having had to fold the 60k jackpot hand for a mere 50 bucks.

The only reason I don't play as low as 2-4 limit at the Orleans is because they have a rule that in 2-4 limit the jackpot is half. But at 4-8 the jackpot is the same as 1-3 nl.

I play no limit only at the Strip, never at the Orleans or the Red Rock. I play limit there strictly for the jackpots.

This is practice is not my idea. The late Quack Quack taught it to me. He played 2-4 limit and 2-6 limit just for the jackpot. He played no limit elsewhere. Although he did do overs.
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05-23-2018 , 08:55 PM
Don't see how the pain wouldn't be even worse if you were playing at Bellagio and lost with your quads but didn't get paid, knowing that you would have hit a jackpot if you had been playing at Orleans.
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05-23-2018 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Don't see how the pain wouldn't be even worse if you were playing at Bellagio and lost with your quads but didn't get paid, knowing that you would have hit a jackpot if you had been playing at Orleans.
LOL But if you hit it at the Bellagio you didn't really hit it at the Orleans. However, if you hit it at the Orleans you really hit it at the Orleans.
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05-23-2018 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
Playing no limit in high bad beat jackpot places like Orleans and Station Casinos is a little stupid. You're in the blind with 89 suited. Someone raises to 5 BB and you have to fold. In limit, you can still call.
Playing no limit in those places can be great because you run into a table full of bad regs.
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05-23-2018 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
Playing no limit in those places can be great because you run into a table full of bad regs.
Have fun playing against those bad regs.

But don't you dare come here crying that you missed out on a 60k bad beat win because you folded small pocket pair after someone three bet it to 50 pre-flop and you folded what would have been a jackpot on the flop.

My shoulders aren't available for you to cry on, believe me. Remember that I warned you.
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05-23-2018 , 10:34 PM
Dealer should remind them if it’s jackpot eligible on the turn.

Last edited by pokerodox; 05-23-2018 at 10:40 PM.
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05-23-2018 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerodox
Dealer should remind them if it’s jackpot eligible on the turn.
I'm pretty sure in most places with a jackpot the dealers are instructed to do the opposite of this. Sometimes even a player mentioning the jackpot can invalidate it (or at least such is threatened). The house has no interest in making sure a jackpot is hit; they would rather it not be hit, as then the amount keeps growing and they get to advertise a larger jackpot, plus they get to hold onto the interest for longer.
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05-23-2018 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
Have fun playing against those bad regs.

But don't you dare come here crying that you missed out on a 60k bad beat win because you folded small pocket pair after someone three bet it to 50 pre-flop and you folded what would have been a jackpot on the flop.

My shoulders aren't available for you to cry on, believe me. Remember that I warned you.
That would be results-oriented thinking. I am almost completely immune to making that mistake.
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