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That's why you have to raise pre if you think you have any prayer of a jackpot hand. I was playing 2/4 mining free beers, and raised suited connectors pre. Flopped a straight flush, and couldn't get any more money in the pot, but at least there were 10 bucks in pre and I got a high hand payout.

People are more likely to call a small bet raise pre than a bet on a flop all the same suit.

At 2-4 they get angry if you raise PF too much because they want to see flops for $2. But yeah I’d raise it up anyway.

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05-19-2018 , 05:42 PM

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Steve00007

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Yeah the results of the hand would have been the same, but the pot didn't get big enough for the dealer to take out the jackpot drop. Trying to get paid here would be like telling the lottery they should pay you when you forgot to buy a ticket this week but those are the numbers you always play.

Maybe they would argue that they paid the jackpot drop on other hands so who cares about a dollar they didn’t pay. That is if they even know what a jackpot drop is lol.

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05-19-2018 , 06:06 PM

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Maybe they would argue that they paid the jackpot drop on other hands so who cares about a dollar they didn’t pay. That is if they even know what a jackpot drop is lol.

They might argue that, but it would make as much sense and be as likely to work as saying you bought the lottery ticket on other weeks.

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05-20-2018 , 12:45 AM

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How much would you be willing to wager that it didn't happen?

The Orleans is a pretty busy poker room. There were plenty of witnesses including the staff and a pretty disappointed dealer.

Well, nothing, given that someone posted Miami John's tweet five minutes after my post. I'll concede I was very likely wrong on this one.

But your initial post is definitely phrased in a way that sounds like an urban legend.

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05-20-2018 , 10:56 AM

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If it was 1/2L there was already $3 in the blinds and the first bet is $4 to isolate and how does it only get to $8 Then the BB calls now the pot is $9 and it check through with pocket Aces? Something sounds off.

Did you read the other posts in this thread? They say it was a 4/8 limit game.

FWIW, could also totally be a 1/2 NL game. SB makes it 4, BB calls. Or SB limps, BB checks, SB bets 2 on the flop, BB calls.

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05-20-2018 , 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nut Nut

How much would you be willing to wager that it didn't happen?

The Orleans is a pretty busy poker room. There were plenty of witnesses including the staff and a pretty disappointed dealer.

Does the dealer get a payoff too or are you talking about a tip ?

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05-20-2018 , 12:57 PM

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MK was the dealer of the hand. I feel sorry for her. No share but probably decent sized tips. Too bad.

Two poker vloggers were in the room, one not playing. Maybe they'll talk about it.

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05-21-2018 , 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by carlo

Does the dealer get a payoff too or are you talking about a tip ?

Poker dealers think they are owed a big tip when they deal a bad beat and when they don't receive one they are pissed.

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05-21-2018 , 09:45 AM

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psujohn

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I've heard poker dealers say that their tips go down when a room adds promo drops so extra tips on promo wins just makes up for it. Kinda don't really believe it but it's possible.

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05-21-2018 , 11:45 AM

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Please not to be drailing this into a tipping thread.

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05-21-2018 , 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by madlex

Now it even makes less sense. , $6 in the blinds and he limped in to isolate? Even if that is true, then there was already $10 in the pot, The Limper and the BB since the SB folded. $10 is a qualifier so I can smell the made up story from here, it smells a lot like Bullsht.

Did you even try to think it through?

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05-21-2018 , 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by magking1

Sounds like a new urban legend is being started.

Like the old lady who spite mucks a "winning" hand so the hated table villain cant get bad beat jackpot.

If real then in the voice of Nelson: HA HA

I heard it was a guy wanted for a crime and no one in the game would claim the prize and pay him so he mucked his hand face up.

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05-21-2018 , 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambit2300

I heard it was a guy wanted for a crime and no one in the game would claim the prize and pay him so he mucked his hand face up.

Here is the story about the woman in Arizona.

http://www.espn.com/espn/poker/colum...ine&id=2316427

No clue if there is any truth to it but now I wanna hit the bad beat just so I can do this to some prick.

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05-22-2018 , 01:18 AM

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Am I the only one who thinks the blown jackpot at The Orleans was the dealer's fault for not telling/reminding the players the minimum pot size?

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05-22-2018 , 01:24 AM

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Yep, just you.

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05-22-2018 , 02:17 AM

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Yep, just you.

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05-22-2018 , 04:44 AM

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popeyesretreat

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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher

They got to the river, both hands were tabled so the hand was over. sounds like a made up story to me.

But it is on the internet so it must be true

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05-22-2018 , 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Trebek's Cat

Am I the only one who thinks the blown jackpot at The Orleans was the dealer's fault for not telling/reminding the players the minimum pot size?

Yes, agree. Every time a dealer sees two players checking their hands he should remind them of BBJ, if they happen to have royal over quads.

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05-22-2018 , 11:01 AM

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macktyson

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100% disagree with this statement. Dealers are not to influence action ever.

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05-22-2018 , 11:14 AM

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If anyone had 4 aces or a Royal at the end you don't think they would have bet something? If you had 4 aces and the other guy bet $8 on the river you would have folded? No way either one can fold on the river with either hand. Still say this is a urban legend or a Internet troll story

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05-22-2018 , 11:17 AM

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They are auto-checking down because they are soft-playing. Same thing happened at Winstar in Oklahoma when I was there. Girl was slowplaying quads, doofus was softplaying girl to be nice to girl when he had straight flush. No jackpot.

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05-22-2018 , 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambit2300

Or colluding snow players getting what they deserve

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05-22-2018 , 02:36 PM

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JoseJohnnyJimJack

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Originally Posted by Black Aces 518

What did stupid doofus end up saying or doing after showdown?

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05-22-2018 , 02:51 PM

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I wasn't at the specific table, so I don't know how the exact convo went, but the entire room was abuzz about the situation.

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05-22-2018 , 03:08 PM

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CoreySteel

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Originally Posted by macktyson

100% disagree with this statement. Dealers are not to influence action ever.

I guess next time I have to specify I wasn't being serious

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