FWIW, i played a couple of 2/5 sessions at Bellagio this summer in June during WSOP. It was two of the worst holdem tables i have ever been playing at. Just a pure nitfest all the way. No big pots without the nutz, not straddles,no fun no nothing.

Its possible i just ran really bad with the games i got of course, but i would prefer the Aria games everyday of the week. Yes, it plays bigger due to the now 1500 max buyin- but its still a better game with more money on the table,more action and more big pots.

Yeah, bell 2/5 is a drag...

I’m just convinced Vegas has the worst games in the US.. Saturated with “pros”, nits, regs who watch movies/ have those over sized head phones, play chess online. Don’t talk.

Even 1/3 sucks here.

Its very possible,even though i am not familiar with games outside Vegas in the states.

All you mention in your post+ all the strat talk from regs and nits that are unsure of themself. And of course,getting the straddle on is nearly impossible.

Well, one of the down sides of playing when the wait lists are so long is that the type of person you want at your tables isn't the type of person who will wait 2+ hours to get a seat in a game.

Absolutely true. Thats the main reason why i am not going to Vegas in June next year. The games was at an alltime low this summer compared to earlier years during wsop.

Good point.

Try SouthPoint

At Bellagio- Unless a new 2/5 table is starting, you will see most players sitting with >$1,000. Once a game has been going for a couple hours, there will be just as much money on the table at Bellagio 2/5 as Aria. But Wynn will have significantly more for both 2/5 & 1/3

In terms of difficulty, Bellagio 2/5 may seem easier due to a lower max buy in, but that can be deceiving as well.

I’ve played in several 1/3 games at Wynn that felt more like 5/10 at Bellagio in terms of player skill and money on the table.

I completely disagree with this. I think bellagio and caesars 2/5 both play notably shallower than deeper 2/5 options, but sometimes you can find very deep high action games.

I have not played too much at wynn but in my limited experience there I would be very shocked if you found many 1/3 games comparable to Bellagio 5/T. Sometimes in Vegas lowstakes you get bad/low action tables with a couple tight passive recs and 4-6 other regs that are not good at all, but in 5/T games you start running into decent winning pros more able to put you in spots at a much higher frequency.

I've had bad 2/5 tables at Aria, Bellagio, Caesars, and would be shocked to find any 1/3 table in Vegas close to as hard (have played 8 handed all reg 2/5 a couple times lmao, talk about depressing). And the regs in any 5/T game are clearly playing and understanding the game at a higher level than the vast majority of Vegas 2/5 regs at cap 500 or cap 1200.

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More generally, I think Vegas tables are super hit or miss. Everyone I know says a different room is super soft, games are best somewhere else, etc. I have found that game quality varies drastically everywhere from day to day, room to room, and even table to table in the same room. Anyone's experience playing 5 or 10 tables over the course of a Vegas trip is not representative of LLSNL in Vegas as a whole or even representative of the state of games in a single room if it's one of the big ones.

If headed to Vegas and wondering where to play, my main advice would just be to be open to tablehopping. Finding good games is possible and the bigger rooms will have good, bad, and decent 2/5 tables running for sure. 1/3 is still quite soft everywhere, though some of the games play really loose passive and weird due to promos.

Fwiw closing in on 1k hrs of Vegas poker in the past year mainly at small cap 2/5 but also including 1/3 while waiting for tables, deeper 2/5 and 3/5, and 50ish hours of 5/T. If anyone has played 2/5 at Caesars in the past few months, good chance we played together

A typical Bellagio tables going for a few hours won't have as much as a typical Aria table

Not even close

That's not to say it's a better game or worse game,but when Arias max is 3 times higher it just simply isn't true

Pretty much spot on, Varies a lot day by day.

I also have about 400 hours at Wynn 1/3 and it is always a whale fest, It is nowhere near the same skill level as Bellagio 5/T lol