Schedule:

May 3rd: 7pm-$2/$5/$10, $500-$2000 buy-in.

May 10th: 7pm-$2/$5/$10, $500-$2000 buy-in.

May 17th: 7pm-$2/$5/$10, $500-$2000 buy-in.

May 24th: 7pm-$10/$20 (maybe bigger) $800-$5000 buy-in.

Other live streams showcase 2/5 and even smaller. This was a 2/5/T game though with a $2k max buyin. I've played with Dan O'Brien at 5/T before. Does he normally play higher? There's quite a jump between a $2k max game and a $25k min game.

It's 2/5/10 with a 2k buyin max isn't it?

Missed your reply to that question, looks like we know the correct structure at least.

Everyone in chat has been asking about Neeme and Trooper, tonight Neeme will be the stream, 7 pm Pacific. He also mentioned to pm him if you would like to play there is a seat available. @andrewneeme on Twitter. Buyin is $500-$2000.

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I cant think of anything more boring...

Even Golden Girls?

Anyone else trying to watch? It stays locked up for me so I'm out of luck

Change it from html5 to flash viewer.

EDIT: Dunno if that's an option anymore actually. Try fiddling with quality.

Thx, it did let me do this but then the screen went black. Adjusted the speed to 150p and now I can see a pretty crappy, pixelated video but the sound is good. Guess I'll just watch the replay later

My flash is effed up, I didn't see any kind of option to use anything else.

Watching last night's stream right now.

1. Props to Neeme for getting me to watch this. If he wasn't on the show, I would NOT be watching this right now.

2. I like the commentary but maybe a bit too much. I find myself rewinding to see what happened because the commentary guys are just talking about something else.

3. The format of showing the action on all streets in the display is genius. Sometimes I miss the action because I'm multitasking and to see a visual of what happened on prior streets is key.

With all that in mind, this is a really niche show and I don't know if the cost is returned to the producers for putting this online. Are there numbers of how much this costs to make and how many people actually watch all or part of this? Maybe a total minutes watched figure that shows how man people watched for how long each?

Bellagio producers should watch Live at the Bike and try to replicate that model..

The main problem I see right now with POTS is their graphic engine computer must be an old dog of a machine, because it is slow AF. It makes the whole thing feel dated choppy even though it is a live 2017 show. Come on guys, you can do way better on the tech end.

The content is pretty good, I like the action tracker for previous streets too; wish it worked multi-way because sometimes you wonder "why did that guy call on the flop" when the answer is because they weren't heads up yet and the call from a guy who folded turn made correct odds for the player you are wondering about on the river.

They were talking on the stream about making the game on the 24th bigger. Like a lot bigger. Perhaps even a 25-50-100 or a 40-80-160 game. So that might turn out to be quite interesting.

I didn't notice it being choppy but way too often the hole cards weren't displaying on the screen which made the broadcast far less enjoyable.

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I was on a brand new Mac and it locked up constantly and when it didn't, it was choppy and unwatchable. I gave up after 10 mins of futzing with it, hope it gets better

The main problem with the stream isn't the tech, it's how ****ing nitty the game is, and how boring the players are. I've watched some live at the bike streams, and comparing the little i've seen of POTS, the difference is night and day.

I don't even think making it a plo would help at all. lets face, 7 of those guys are nitty, grinder pros with literally no personality. Almost the entire vegas player pool (that would be interesting on being in the show) are nits/ aspiring pros. The B stream should set itself apart, and try something new. And making a game bigger and or adding in PLO with a bunch of nits won't make it any better imo.

I say: Get the nits or whoever wants to be on the show, BUT- before the start of the game, the players have draw 3 games out of a bag of 12 or so poker variants and THEY HAVE TO PLAY. no ifs ands or buts. that would make for an interesting, action filled game. Not the silent nit fest i see now.

So, you want to see more bad decisions?

In hindsight- 12 games would be too much. Live streamers want to see lots of action, frequent big pots, and lots of table talk. Pot limit mixed games seem to fit that better than anything.

no limit when played correctly is a boring nit fest, especially when it's full ring and filled with nit grinders. There are lots of other games that have built in gamble in them that are good for tv: randomly choosing a 3 game mix out of: PL big o, PL o8, PLO, PL 2-7 TD, and nlhe would generate a lot of action and a more interesting viewing experience, and would be much better advertising for the poker room.

The only people who don't like it are the pros/nits themselves who don't want to actually play poker and think to win money.

How are they recruiting for this game? I've only watched a little of two of the broadcasts, but it seems like all the players are young pros. That doesn't make for the best spectator's experience or even the best advertisement for the room. They need to get some whales in the game.

This seems like a niche enough show that multiple games would appeal to most people watching although it would definitely not be main stream at all. I'm curious how many casual fans watch this live stream or in fact, how many people total watch the live stream. Does it show how many are watching when it is streaming live? I usually catch the episodes later on replay.

Also, they do need to better pick the players on the show. These guys need to be gamblers, or have something unique about their personality. The lineup is lame. Also, I would be interested to hear what they are saying mixed in with the announcers but I think that is something they can't add. I much prefer the HSP format where you hear the players talk but that is obviously edited so a different format.

Discussing the player profiles is something I like but when most of the guys are Bellagio regs, it is lame. They should pretty much ban the Bellagio regs from the game or have only 2-3 of them in there. I rather see more amateur lawyers, doctors, and businessmen gambling it up!

If you watch on Twitch, they say the number watching.

This type of show is all about the lineups, definitely need some loose gamblers to make it interesting. They had a PLO show on LATB and it was the nittiest lineup ever and it made it boring. Its hard for a PLO game to be nitty but they accomplished it, NL is even worse.

LA midstakes games are much better action in general than Vegas midstakes games. There are way more people with big money in LA than in Vegas. Logistically they have to hope there is a big money guy that's in town on a Wednesday that knows this game is going to run and is interested in playing it.

It should be noted in early April there was a Bellagio POTS test run at 1/3 and the game was totally off the chain. From what I could tell it looked like it several 5/T+ players that were just going crazy because it was lol 1/3. It also had one of the sickest/craziest calls I've ever seen in poker. People in the stream chat continue to ask for bigger games but bigger doesn't necessarily mean more entertaining. Sadly, the stream of the 1/3 game which was by far the best Bellagio POTS stream is no longer available on Twitch.

But do the masses want to watch games they don't even play?

They were asking for players to email them a player profile. Thus, all the spaces are reserved in advanced. I doubt there are many big money players that even know about this game. One thing they should consider doing is reserving the right to kick a local pro off in favor of a recreational walk-in....or just fill 7 seats and allow walk-ins to take the final 2.

It should be noted that some of these players may not even be that nitty but you're kind of forced to play like that if you want to fair well in tough lineups. I'm guessing if there were 6 whales and 3 pros in the game, some of the pros would definitely open up there game to play bigger pots with the whales.

First of all- I don't think the B should be deceptively setting up action games in order to advertise for the poker room. Making the game semi private doesn't do anyone any good (except for the select pros that get on the show).

Secondly- IRT to LA vs LV- that's exactly why I said, what I said. The LV player pool is saturated with a bunch of serious, professional poker player type that makes for an incredibly boring game. In my opinion, the poker room should be using the stream for advertising purposes- and they should absolutely NOT be advertising for nit/pros/etc which is exactly what they're doing now.

NL- lots of pros, small pots, almost no multi way pots, almost no stacks get passed back and forth (unless its a cooler), and it makes for boring poker. More importantly recreational players, gamblers etc DO NOT WIN AT NL- THEY DON'T STAND A CHANCE. In fact- they don't even stand a chance to even have a big winning session. That's really, really bad for the poker room and for the recreational players. They eventually just stop playing altogether.

A PL omaha/draw mix solves all those problems. Lots of action, lots of multiway pots, lots of chips flying, and a way, way bigger chance for even recreational players to win often, and have some huge huge sessions. That's fun poker, a fun stream, and great advertising for the poker room.

I know that what I want to watch isn't going to be the most entertaining thing. Since I am serious about poker, I want to watch a table with game conditions that I am more likely to encounter. I want to see how 6 nitty pros carve up 3 LAG whales instead of 9 degens gambling it up because the former is going to be more valuable as a training tool. I am very aware that what I want isn't going to be what is most popular.

If they want to use vloggers in their game, maybe make the cash game pros play a single-table tournament and try to find some tourney pros who might donk off their stack in a cash game.

There aren't 3 LAG whales in these games. They'd be praising a higher power for just one. Also, why would you choose to play in a game with 6 pros (a game that isn't even that deep at that)?