31 days elapse, and I have checked the mail every afternoon (I live near work) to intercept this summons (my soon to be ex wife doesn’t know about any of this)

Day 32. The letter inside is yellow and showing through the envelope window and I damn near faint opening it.


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City of Maryland heights v. mizzoulegend

OMG. It’s real.

I call frank and he says read from the top and don’t leave anything out. At least frank is thorough for $900. Lol

He busts out laughing after the first line!!

He says, if I ever had a doubt you were innocent that summons just cleared it up.

I relieved, but I am still being prosecuted. I’m at a loss for the humor.

Frank explains it I’m guilty, or they have a case, that letter is going to say State of Missouri v mizzoulegend

He says now we go on the offensive and fight.




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Crap!!!

I left out one crucial part.

Two weeks after the incident I received a permanent ban in the mail from Harrahs signed by Bill Kima, general manager.

He now apparently runs Rivers in Pittsburgh

I call to Clarify and he says I’m banned from all properties and hangs up.

Nice. No wsop for me, ever.


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My lawyer requests the video from the prosecutor and she says she will get it when she prepares her case and send it over but expect the first court date or two to be continued

I then get the letter.

An offer.

Littering. $105 fine.

I call frank and he says there, you can pay to make it go away.....except

That pesky little part about maybe being arrested, getting finger printed in a casino working in an industry that cares

I decide to fight and want my day in court.

11 months go by, date after date gets continued and finally the prosecutor makes a visit to harrahs and demands to see the tape. They refuse.

For a year they stone walled saying they couldn’t identify the players at the table (you mean all the ones swiped in?) (I asked for this info while being Interrogated btw)

They had no record minutes later of the dealer involved either

And now they won’t show the prosecutor the tape

She explains, according to frank, that she won’t prosecute a single case they bring if she doesn’t see it. And low and behold, it shows my side of the story

I get a letter dismissing my case, stating Nolle prosequi

It means they are abandoning the case, and the letter stated , thankfully, the evidence pointed to my innocence

Ive now needed that letter twice in my life


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If you run a background check on someone who has been trespassed from a casino no record of an arrest exists. This is a dilemma when applying for jobs in that back ground checks are not fool proof.

I found this out the hard way. When applying for a job, the prosecutor ran my record and no arrest appears. Great.

I apply and answer no, I have not been arrested. I’m not sure why i offered this part but it saved me. I notated I was fingerprinted in an incident in a casino in 2004 and and then cleared of any wrongdoing by videotape evidence

Apparently, industries like mine run more thorough FBI checks and guess what shows up. It says I was placed into custody (interesting choice of words) and finger printed

Thank heavens for the letter


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Ok,I know most of you could care less about my spring this story, but parts of it will be helpful as I proceed, like the OP, I determining if I can get reinstated

Will post update later


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Thanks for posting this Mizzou, can't wait for the thrilling conclusion!

I spent the years 2006-2012 rejected and ignored by changing management at harrahs, and then an acquisition by Hollywood in St. Louis. The acquisition gave me instant access to one more local, but hindered me in Vegas and elsewhere if ever getting back in.

I believe there is a point where once you are gone, you aren’t coming back.

In the year after I was banned, I was playing 1/3 NL at another casino and two dealers from harrahs were in the game. I was open about what happened and they laughed, saying that went sideways fast and no one ever expected me to lawyer up. No one ever does.

I asked simply, how he heck did I end up in this spot, and they asked If i knew the victim. Apparently, he owned Chinese restaurants and was a degen baccarat player, into Harrahs for well into six figures.

Management was simply saving face, and I was the wrong guy at the wrong time. It was that night I gave up on ever getting back. I won the battle, but lost the war.

Then one fateful night, my day job saved my hobby. Don’t get me wrong, my personality ruined part of it, but life run good I intersected with poker and got got my “one time”


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Long story short, parts of my industry are very insular and relationships run deep over decades. Some of of guys and women I’ve grown up with will still be close when I’m an old man. Being friends with my clients has paid long term dividends as well.

I had a new business relationship in 2011 and a deal I literally created from scratch was now In Jeopardy of being lost to a non factor of a competitor over an arcane issue I did not create, nor could I fix and a fast growing company was mindset on operating like a mom and pop, only at $30mm revenue levels.

Why is this important? My new counterpart went to bat for me, reminding g the client he wouldn’t even have this deal if I didnt make it work, and he said he would walk away from his piece if I got screwed over. He was willing to leave half his yearly number on the table for me.

I spent the next two years making him a rock star in his bosses eyes. I sent every deal his way. We destroyed expense accounts together. Chelsea FC comes to St. Louis? We not only go, my kid is hanging with David Luiz and Torres.

Outcome? I end up winning a major award from his company as a thank you, and get invited to their annual meeting, and dinner.

Over wine, the guy next to me Introduces himself, and we hit it off immediately. He says he works for Harrahs and I ask what he does. Let’s just say there was a C in the title. I tell him I do financial deals, on real estate, and that I’m banned from his property, so don’t ask for financing because I’m required to mAke a site visit by law. I say I don’t want to get arrested closing a big deal. He laughs and asks what the hell I did.

Story ensues. I throw GM under bus.

And he says, would you ever come back? I tell him yes, of course, if they still own the Wsop, but I’m not interested in their gaming.

No ****, he picks up his cell, and makes the call. He says, “mizzoulegend, reinstated, immediately.”

He then puts phone lower, and asks if I want top tier status too. Nah, a buy in to the main event would be nice as an apology, though.

He laughs, says he respects me asking for the business, and says I should have taken the Status. Lol

I had his card for years and never took that offer. He did his part, and I will always thank him.

Moral of the story? No matter how bleak it seems, you just have to find the one person who gives a damn, or who is willing to step up. I lucked into mine.




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Of all the dumb and useless defenses to theft, “look at my bank balance I don’t need to steal” would be tough to beat.

So you’re the anti-Jean Valjean?

It scares me how inconsistent these properties are at 86ing people.

Nice read mizzou. Thank you for the share!

I think I'm probably banned from a certain independent casino and I wanted to get your opinions.

7 years ago I had a pair of comp tickets to $artist at $casino. I was a good player at the casino and I got comp offers all the time. The wife was ill and unable to attend and I decided to try and sell her ticket. Unfortunately I made this attempt at the same casino. I was ultimately unable to sell the ticket but I was noticed, as my email address was deleted from their system, no more comp offers. I never received any kind of notice of an actual ban, but I haven't been back to $casino and I would hate to visit and have any kind of unpleasantness there.

This was my first "mistake" at any Las Vegas casino, ever. I will write a belated letter of apology to the director of security FWIW. If you had to guess, is it likely that I am banned/would be trespassed?

You are currently self-banned and have been for the past seven years.

Just go in and play and see what happens so that you find out for sure what your status is. Then if you do have a problem (but you may not), you can start figuring out how to deal with it.

You’re going to snitch on yourself over something that happened 7 years ago? I don’t even think what you did was a big deal. Maybe they just don’t like people trying to sell stuff in there.

There was a thread here a few years ago from a guy that started a physical confrontation. He went in months later, let security know about it, asked if he was banned, and for his honesty they banned him for snitching on himself.

Many years ago, I represented some folks who had been busted scalping event tickets onsite at a major Las Vegas casino.

What became clear were the following factors:

Selling tickets for more than face value, at the venue, triggered issues for the scalpers. Tickets could be marked up and sold offsite. Comp tickets were commonly sold in a secondary market.*

If someone were actually arrested, a "standard charitable donation" + 1 year "probation", afterward... what was actually a "deferred prosecution", and everything would be dropped if there were no more problems.

However, that was many years ago, so not a reliable guide for today.

*Today, you see STNCharms, which are NFTs traded on secondary platofrms. At one point Stations has announced it would accept those NFTs as buyin tokens for gambling onsite.

Imagine another player playing against one of you and losing a lot of money.

8 years on and we need to know if OP is still banned