Last reply to you!

I'd imagine you were told you were special growing up and could be anything you want. Well, you are special alright, but you most certainly have a career ceiling!

You need to pass a test to get a license and legally operate a vehicle, so you'd be aware of speed limits and other moving violations and the ramifications of breaking them! You don't need to pass ANY test to wager money at a casino at any game offered! Me stating that I wasn't aware of a rule isn't making excuses, it's simply stating a fact! It doesn't exempt me from punishment and I never suggested as much!

It's only polite to say thanks when someone offers advice, so I offered a "Thanks" in my second reply in this thread. You really got me on how long it took me to change my tone/attitude or whatever it was!

Should have kept editing for grammar as well as for gibberish!

Take care!

I'll ignore most of your comments, because just wow. But you are indeed suggesting you should be exempt from the Aria's standard punishment from this action.

You started a whole thread about it.

I can't believe that this thread is almost a month old. There's no benefit whatsoever to Aria for rescinding the ban on OP. It might have been excessive but it's essentially cast in stone now. Sucks but that's how it is.

If you find yourself in a similar situation again, offer to switch seats with the person, not cards. Even in a home game people aren't going to like this if someone ends up losing a big pot to one of you as they will end up thinking they should not have been up against those cards in the first place.

It seems you have learned your lesson so I'm not going to pile on further. GL getting reinstated.

Lesson definitely learned!

Thx!

I for one appreciate that you shared this as a cautionary tale. I am a very much a rules follower but I have friends I could see doing this and I have passed the word along to them so they know this stuff is taken seriously.

Getting the ban lifted appears to be, according to a decent amount of responses, quite a long shot, so I'm definitely cool with it if nothing else comes out of sharing this aside from others being aware of the consequences of taking the fun too far and not getting banned as well.

You have the experience of working casino security obviously, anad I have none. That said, I personally know 3 people who had lifetime bans (all from the same incident) lifted this past summer. Just sayin, it is possible.

There is no more to the story, and you are trolling. You are adding nothing to the thread apart from post volume. That's trolling.

Please stop.

overall it's a good warning, lesson learned of what not to do in a casino

big picture from a risk mgmt standpoint if I were the casino I'd also have a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to things like that, gaming commission is understandably strict, to keep games clean

at least there's other places to play

Do you mind saying what the bans that were lifted were for? Were they also big players at table games?

DrThunder, I realize you were at the table and noted that the other player was not taken in to be interviewed. I suppose the most likely reason here is a casino error, I guess thinking the player had left. Or, there is more to the story.

You can choose to believe whatever you want, but sitting back and calling someone a troll who has been involved in similar situations and using common sense to reason on this incident doesn't help anything.

If not a casino error, why do you think the other player was not brought back to validate the OP's story then?

(also, POTO, If trolling were defined as you describe above, that post is trolling.)

LOLOLOL!

I'm a poker dealer. Been dealing for more than 11 years, 5 of those here in Vegas. If I had a nickel for every time "the table" agreed to some ludicrous change of the rules, or in the overall playing of the game currently in play, I'd never have to work again. Which is good, because the first time I agreed with "the table's" nonsense, and went against the house rules, I would be fired.

That hurt 99

Sorry, but the interweb is a harsh place… and serious business.

Hey OP, I now feel your pain. We started playing Indian Poker the other night since the dude next to me agreed to it. Got a two day ban though, which is ridiculous since nobody else complained the first time. Wanna go grab a beer and talk strategy somewhere while we wait it out?

Hey everyone,

I've been overseas and just got back a few days ago, so I figured I'd give an update.

Prior to leaving I sent letters to security as well as to the new poker room manager. I also called the poker room and spoke to one of the floors for a while and he felt that a lifetime ban seemed a bit harsh and stated he would pass my info along to the poker room manager.

I just finished going through my mail and see that I never received a reply to my letters. Part of me wasn't overly optimistic about hearing back based on some of the replies in this thread and the fact that I'm simply not a priority to either security or poker room management. There is no telling how many letters they receive on a daily basis and how much other stuff they have on their plates which are more vital to daily operations.

If anyone happens to know someone at Aria or plays there on a regular and wouldn't mind running my story past someone to see if there is any chance of me being able to come back, I'd appreciate and promise to name my first child after them. :-)

I have no problem flying to Vegas and talking to whomever I need to in person, but I simply don't want to risk stepping foot on their property and getting arrested for trespassing. I do however feel that if given the time to apologize and explain my actions in person to someone in management, they'd see that my actions didn't have malicious intent and I'd promise to refrain from anything even remotely considered as questionable if given another chance.

Thanks for any advice and/or help!

Medium level players, one being a multi-ring WSOPc grinder. It involved pot in the hotel room...don't know the details, but they were definitely 86'd from all Caesar's properties permanently (I read the notice), and it was later rescinded.

Maybe you mean Carter Gill who had his ban rescinded.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...-wsop-1204629/

Dude play commerce 1:3 half reg half hi lo plo or the bike has 1/3 or even Hawaiian gs has 1/3 cruise out here IT RULES!!

No, Carter Gill isn't three people who I know personally (see my original post on the subject).

Rofl, I just want to say anyone who says you can't think of a good reason to switch cards blind in poker game is completely clueless and obviously has no common sense and little to no intelligence.

Personally, I have jokingly offered it before @ a friendly cash game table where everyone is having fun. You guys are all actual losers if you see a problem with people doing it. It creates a fun atmosphere to the game and while it might change how a hand plays out it doesn't benefit or give anyone at the table any sort of disadvantage. I see no reason this shouldn't be allowed and honestly people saying they have an issue. You are that cash games are supposedly bad or getting worse. Because you can't talk about your hand in a Hu pot or switch cards. So that leaves everyone to not saying a word to each other a boring game and then headphone hoodie kids.

But I'd lol p hard if I had gotten banned for doing it before. Complete joke hope you get reinstated. Dealer should be only one to face consequences, but he obviously didn't or wouldn't say something because it would cause him to be tipped less for being an ass and I imagine the dealer had common sense to know it has 0 affect on anything. And then for them to come hours laser and pester you is so lolz so if you had left already would they of not banned you?
Can't be that surprised because people who work at casinos who post here are so dumb and clueless (suit) but maybe a higher up w common sense will see this and tell the guy who banned you what a tard he is.

Against house it's different as they will just have any recuse for a refund if you lose.

In a poker game, where everyone watched you and agreed. And dealer didn't say no and saw you do it is absurd to not be allowed or any type of ban. With that said I won't b trading cards again soon I imagine. + I only know it's allowed from when tony G and Dnegs did it on the big game obviously.

Got it. I see that now.

Anyhow, Gill's story while very different than OP's may shed some light and even some promise in his getting his ban rescinded.

advice: stop cheating in poker
help: if you are going to cheat at poker do it somewhere outside of powerful casino with cameras and trained staff etc
ideas: develop "street" smarts