Too many holier than thou jerks in this thread

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It may be lame that you can't joke around and say you have a bomb at the airport, but that's the way it is. This guy knew not to **** around at casinos, but did it anyway.

Hi QC19:

I've only read part of this thread, but if I was the Aria poker room manager, you would have been banned. But that's really not the point. Your issue is that you want the ban lifted.

To do that, and I've been around this stuff for a long time, it's my opinion that your best shot is to solicit the support of the poker room manager. Once that's done, then he would probably be the one to request that your ban be lifted.

By the way, the name of the Aria Poker Room manager is Sean McCormick. He's relatively new on the job and while I have met him, and my impression is that he's a fine person, I only know him casually. So my advice to you is to write Sean a polite letter explaining why you were banned and how you now realize that your behavior, which you thought was okay at that time and was actually good for the game, is really unacceptable. I would also state in the letter that you will call him in the near future and take it from there.

Also, no matter what you are told, make sure that you are always polite and professional.

Best wishes,
Mason

Ray:

He's banned from all MGM properties which means in Las Vegas there is really no place else for him to play if he wants to play PLO. It's my opinion that there is some chance he might get help from the new poker room manager and I also think that's his best course of action.

Mason

in the air force my grandfather was a bombardier!

I think joking about having a bomb at the airport is much worse than what this guy did. Why would it be lame to joke about having a bomb at an airport? I think it would be incredibly stupid to do that.

Hi Mason,

I appreciate the input. I've already sent a letter to Sean detailing what happened, apologizing for my actions that night, which didn't have malicious intent and promising to refrain from anything even resembling cheating should I be given a chance to return.

I didn't receive a reply and I'm not sure if that is due to a general approach to folks who are banned or a combination of him having more important things on his plate, me just not being a being a big priority or them being inundated with these type of letters.

Figured I'd update the thread with my previous post to see if anyone has any other helpful suggestions and/or contacts at Aria in order to get this ban lifted. In the meantime I may just go ahead and send another letter and follow up with a phone call.

Gl op I feel you should get reinstated as punishment didn't fit the crime by any means. Sending you out of the room for rest of day with a warning would have been more then sufficient.

this does seem way over the line. punishment definitely doesnt fit the crime

QC, if you didn't put this in your letter and get a chance to talk with them, I would also point out that the dealer did not stop you from doing this, respectfully of course. It seems that they should expect more from their dealers and imo I would assume it's ok since the dealer did not stop it.

If they are not answering your letters it would probably work best just to show up in person, talk to the poker room manager, and explain your case. A lot more can be accomplished face to face then over snail mail.

Stop cheating ----> becoming unbanned

Swapping cards BLIND with another player while no other players object and the dealer doesn't stop it isn't cheating. Is it normal or should it be allowed, personally I don't think so, but it isn't cheating.

The rule is absolutely in place to prevent cheating. Numerous poker rules work on the assumption that it's possible some cards are subtly marked, even if just with fingernail marks or whatever, and try to minimize the impact of that. Hence why we have burn cards, for example.

In the context of that level of paranoia, switching cards is absolutely cheating. That doesn't mean OP did it because he intended to cheat, but honestly if I put myself in MGM's shoes, I'd ban him and never let him back. His rake money isn't worth the risk and I would place no trust in what he said or wrote, only what the cameras showed.

Hi guys, well let's see, lots has gone on over the last 4 months since I got banned. Man, it was nuts. But, I'm not back from one of my villa over seas and thought, why not check in here, right bros!!

So, although I haven't been back to Vegas for six months or so, and don't really know when I'll go again, I WANT THIS FIXED. Big roller or not, I'll fly out there just to take care of this - WHO can give me attention to figure out how? I hear there is a new guy in town, think he will understand why playing Indian Poker was not a silly idea? I hope so, cause I'm the type of guy he wants in his casino. All fun, lots of pun(s). HA!

Anyhow, just tell me where to fly now that I'm back in the country and can adequately use the internet again. It's been nuts over there with no service!!

You make a good point, but I would like to know what is the responsibility of the dealer? The dealer didn't prevent it and if it is against the rules, which it is, the dealer should have stopped it. I would just like to see some responsibility being taken. Yeah I know, taking responsibility in this day and age is a joke, but I still believe in it.

If I was MGM I'd do something about the dealer too - at a minimum a serious talk about game security. I don't think that's going to help QC19's case though. Letting him back in is still darn close to a negative freeroll. Especially when you consider from the house's perspective that you'd be giving him back access to potentially cheatable table games.

And it is because of this responsibility the dealer has that I have no sympathy for qc for putting that dealer in a situation where he may not be able to feed his family just so qc can be cute at the poker table and try to impress strangers.

If the dealer knew what was going on and allowed it, then was the OP cheating?

Edit: And yes I realize that this is a hypothetical and it's the OP's version of the story we're getting.

LOL, shame on OP for allowing the dealer to fail in doing his job!

Typical professional poker player attitude towards the working man. You know, somebody who actually contributes to society.

LOL society.

Has nothing to do with attitude, it has to do with facts. How in the world did the player force the dealer to not do his job??? It is the dealers J O B to enforce the rules and deal. Seems very straightforward to me, but then again I'm a little bit to common sense minded for most people.

For the record, I'm not ripping the dealer. I'm simply stating that the op can ask about the dealer letting it happen and learning a lesson from it. If the op was flat out cheating, then to hell with him, but all we can do is go off the info we have.