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03-08-2022 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Relegades

UTG self-proclaimed OMC open limps,
UTG+1 (lawyer who has been playing decent & somewhat snug) isos to $50 (standard size by him).
i flat AKs UTG+2, as i was already somewhat suspicious of the OMC just open limping pre. yes, it is standard to 3bet here, but if there are any combos of AK to flat, it's going to be AKs>AKo
folds back to OMC who backraises to $180, UTG+1 mucks and i just decide to muck faceup. totally fine to call here as well though as well, merits to both.

while there's still a ton of merit of still playing AKs IP, i know i'm up against a range of AK/QQ+ & figure against this opp. in specific i'm not really picking up another dime with my hand if i do connect. i fold faceup and visibly have the guy mindblown/thinking about my fold even 30m after playing the hand, calling me a nit for the rest of the session. OMC does end up showing QQ faceup, which would be my bestcase scenario vs him other than AKs/AKo. i also figured that there would be somewhat of a tilt factor if he actually does have AA/KK, on top of the entire table assigning me as a meganit or something. and for 5BB, i think that's worthwhile.
I think you actually played it fine. Of course the standard play is raise fold. Id love to know if this is super standard or not. I think calling could be potential suicide unless the player is a fit or fold kinda player and would be easy to get off a hand if he whiffs completely or does make nutted hands. I have a rocky player in my regular game and if he did this he is KK/AA more than not and at worst QQ, but that would be loose for him to backraise QQ.
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03-16-2022 , 12:01 PM
was that you as "coach" in this vlog?

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03-16-2022 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bmoney
was that you as "coach" in this vlog?

yep, i mentioned that her game was fairly solid overall but guess she didn't include that in...i also was on like <6h of sleep in that 48h timespan because i was playing & staying up till my late night flight back home.

but all around, she was fun to have at the table and i would say that she most definitely was the best opponent i had at the table that day.

Last edited by Relegades; 03-16-2022 at 02:29 PM.
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03-16-2022 , 02:31 PM
lol I enjoyed your TR, but why on earth would you coach someone at the table?
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03-16-2022 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheGramuel
lol I enjoyed your TR, but why on earth would you coach someone at the table?
I simply noted that she could protect her checking range in some spots after watching some vlogs, other than that her game is fairly solid overall. They're fairly general comments that can be interpreted so broadly by everyone

It's like two comments on my assessment on her game, it's not like I'm full on explaining and nitpicking on why a x or small bet is optimal w/ K7 on an 8777 board lol
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03-17-2022 , 12:31 AM
are there legit any vloggers here I could learn a thing or two from them or from low limit live play? anyone reccomend?
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03-17-2022 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
are there legit any vloggers here I could learn a thing or two from them or from low limit live play? anyone reccomend?
are you into minecraft, electric bikes, punting 6 figures, angry rants about pedestrians, sleeping in a car, or lollipops?

if not then vlog may not be the format for you
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03-17-2022 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
are there legit any vloggers here I could learn a thing or two from them or from low limit live play? anyone reccomend?
not really tbh, but i'd recommend watching Lex O's vlog given that he has his thought process/reasonings behind every decision he makes ingame

sure a lot of stuff done in 5/10 won't apply in 1/2 e.g. light 3betting, however concepts such as bet/folding and thinking in terms of ranges can be picked up & learned from him
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03-17-2022 , 04:04 AM
do you consider him a good player? i haven't watched but in the vlog thread he's been criticized pretty heavily but mostly for mindset ie it's gut wrenching for him to be in like a 4 buyin downswing or something so maybe they only critique his mental awareness and not the strategy?
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03-17-2022 , 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
do you consider him a good player? i haven't watched but in the vlog thread he's been criticized pretty heavily but mostly for mindset ie it's gut wrenching for him to be in like a 4 buyin downswing or something so maybe they only critique his mental awareness and not the strategy?
strategy is fine, although it is clear that he mainly is a blueline player and is probably bleeding in redline like me. he also plays fairly tight as well

but is fine in live low stakes no limit, which i consider to be stakes up until 10/20. you can play massively exploitable/unbalanced vs. 90% of field & still print up to 5/10
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03-18-2022 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Relegades
strategy is fine, although it is clear that he mainly is a blueline player and is probably bleeding in redline like me. he also plays fairly tight as well

but is fine in live low stakes no limit, which i consider to be stakes up until 10/20. you can play massively exploitable/unbalanced vs. 90% of field & still print up to 5/10
I'm just a rec 1-2/1-3 player, so am not sure what the bolded above means. Can you give a layman's explanation?

TIA.
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03-18-2022 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGun in VA
I'm just a rec 1-2/1-3 player, so am not sure what the bolded above means. Can you give a layman's explanation?

TIA.
sure thing.

when i say that i player is playing a "blueline" or "redline" strategy, i'm referring to their overall money won or lost after a showdown on the river (blueline), or their money won/lost without a showdown (redline.)

meaning, a "redline" centered strategy has their play around getting others to fold by the river, and a "blueline" strategy is going to be focused on making strong hands and extracting value from weaker ones & winning at showdown.
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03-19-2022 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Relegades
sure thing.

when i say that i player is playing a "blueline" or "redline" strategy, i'm referring to their overall money won or lost after a showdown on the river (blueline), or their money won/lost without a showdown (redline.)

meaning, a "redline" centered strategy has their play around getting others to fold by the river, and a "blueline" strategy is going to be focused on making strong hands and extracting value from weaker ones & winning at showdown.

Thanks, this helps. Would it be correct that at the higher limits it's proper to play a mix of these strategies, even if you have a preferred/dominant strategy? Thinking of vloggers, it seems like Mariano, Rampage, and Wes Cutshall favor redline strategy (aggro to induce folds by the river), while Brad Owen, Lex O, & Deach are more blueline (value oriented), but all of these seem (to me at least) capable of mixing their playing styles. Owen in particular seems to have evolved his game as he's risen in stakes.

Appreciate your response(s), and continued good fortune in your journey.
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03-19-2022 , 12:15 PM
I, too, appreciate the response, as this isn't something I've specifically thought about in my game.
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04-16-2022 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGun in VA
Thanks, this helps. Would it be correct that at the higher limits it's proper to play a mix of these strategies, even if you have a preferred/dominant strategy? Thinking of vloggers, it seems like Mariano, Rampage, and Wes Cutshall favor redline strategy (aggro to induce folds by the river), while Brad Owen, Lex O, & Deach are more blueline (value oriented), but all of these seem (to me at least) capable of mixing their playing styles. Owen in particular seems to have evolved his game as he's risen in stakes.

Appreciate your response(s), and continued good fortune in your journey.
ah, forgot to reply to this lol

higher limits being 5/10+? it comes down to knowing your opponent/playertype and adjusting accordingly. e.g. you can valuebet most recreational players razor thin in live, however say vs. a player like close2broke (very LAGgy vlogger) you may want to think twice before doing so.

another example, if youre at a more aggressive table that is 3betting light often, you're going to want to mix in some 4b bluffs, know which hands to call with, etc. you also would adjust your opening size and slghtly tighten up preflop range as well.

anyways, i'll be in las vegas from the today-27th or so, will be playing wynn 2/5 1500 max and possibly some 5/10 elsewhere, but focused on playing the remaining tournaments on wynn's tournament schedule. will try to periodically update, especially if i have any day2/ deep runs
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