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03-21-2021 , 04:54 PM
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Hello, I'm 23 years old and have been playing poker since 18 on ignition and the other unregulated US sites. I have since then played pokerstars Michigan, built up ~+25K in the past month or two mainly by mass tabling 200NL & 500NL. However, I think the 500NL games are not really beatable for me anymore for any decent winrate unless I game select super hard at off hours & do extensive PIO work/study. I hope to become a full time professional for the time being, so I don't have to worry about college tuition at all when I inevitably return to school & be financially independent.

I will say that I am the type of player that will try to generate action or lighten the mood of any given table, try to make some jokes and have the table a more fun place to be around. I try to be fairly social & friendly with everyone even though i'm naturally an introvert, as I personally think that it's a heavily overlooked aspect of the job as a professional player. Networking and being social & an overall positive experience to be around on the table has gotten me into private games that the silent casino nitreg type of player can only dream to be a part of. I'm used to playing a fairly TAG playstyle, although I am not afraid to mix it up in some spots if I believe that it will be beneficial to do so.


I am at Las Vegas from March 20th to April 6, with intentions of going to Los Angeles & Seattle/Renton to play poker and meet online/RL friends along the way. My main intent for Las Vegas is to maximize my EV and ROI by putting as many A-game hours as I can into the poker rooms. Most of these locations and rooms are comped or resort fee only, so in terms of housing it will only cost around $400 total for these nights. My main games are going to likely consist of:

Aria 2/5 $1,000 max
Wynn 2/5 $1,500 max
Wynn 1/3 $500 max

I will try to update this thread daily with new pictures & results!

Day one of Las Vegas Trip (+1.4K)

Trip bankroll: $16,600 --->$18,000


Aria 2/5, in for $1,200


Wynn 2/5, in for $2,266


A picture of me


Action overall was pretty good, tbh I really didn't feel like I did anything fancy or had to make any real difficult decisions at any point during the sessions I had, given that players either spewed into me or never really put me to the test. Will have to say though, that I did exercise pot control often against players who I think are capable of mixing it up and putting me to the test in some spots (which made it overall easier for me). I first played at Aria when I arrived in Vegas, followed by a 2/5 session at the Wynn after realizing that the new table that I got moved to @ Aria just looked absolutely miserable.
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03-21-2021 , 06:34 PM
Good luck


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03-21-2021 , 07:22 PM
GL, OP.

But Seattle?
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03-21-2021 , 08:05 PM
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GL, OP.

But Seattle?
There are some surprisingly juicy big spread limit games in the seattle area. All that big tech and aerospace money floating around.
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03-21-2021 , 11:40 PM
Good luck OP! Subbed and looking forward to your trip report! Are you from Michigan?


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03-22-2021 , 01:15 AM
Good luck! Looking forward to hearing about your journey.
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03-22-2021 , 09:56 AM
Good luck!!!
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03-22-2021 , 12:22 PM
GL, Relegades. Always like to read TRs and travel in general.

Pics of shoes and BR ofc.
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03-22-2021 , 12:58 PM
Subbed! you can have my first half of 2021 run-good as I won't be needing it!
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03-22-2021 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fuluck414
There are some surprisingly juicy big spread limit games in the seattle area. All that big tech and aerospace money floating around.
Oh hey, please let me know where I can find these games...lol.

$300 max bet, bet and 3-raises cap, $4 rake, $3 jackpot drop with negative equity.

I mean, sure, but...lol.
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03-22-2021 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by seattle
Oh hey, please let me know where I can find these games...lol.

$300 max bet, bet and 3-raises cap, $4 rake, $3 jackpot drop with negative equity.

I mean, sure, but...lol.
It's been a couple years since I have played consistently around here. I remember playing 5-300 at fortune i think that would have 3+ players consistently to the flop for $100+ a piece. I assume the 5-10-25 Omaha game that ran at Tulalip has migrated somewhere, maybe not though since the limit would be dropping by $200 unless it moved to Snoqualmie.

They might not be as juicy as I remember but they were pretty good when I was playing.
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03-22-2021 , 08:35 PM
All the tribals are closed.

PLO can run really big, but it's still $300 max bet/raise.

Fortune games can be good, almost making it seem like a big limit game, but the problem is still max BI cap.

It's hard to explain for those that may not have played in these games, and they have a lot of potential to be great games, but the structure kind of ruin everything.

You're right though, tons of money here, but the casino poker scene is not as good as one might assume based on the amount of average income.

It'll still be an interesting fun stop, just don't expect too much. Will likely be disappointed.
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03-22-2021 , 09:08 PM
GL OP, hopefully this thread will get back to you and not the derail. Meeting up with friends is better equity than whining about a $7 drop.
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03-22-2021 , 10:35 PM
Tunnels...
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03-23-2021 , 12:30 PM
Alrighty, day 2/day 3 writeup up time...

The last 40 hours or so seem kinda murky to me, as I played around 30 hours of straight poker and just woke up from a much needed rest. In these 30 hours, I will have to say that it's a combination of me running bad + & admittedly me playing bad. To make matters worse, tilted off $2K playing some blackjack as well down at Aria. Hey, at least I'm not the really old me and dust off the entire remainder of trip bankroll lol

I played in that time:

-Aria 2/5
-Wynn 2/5
-Wynn 5/10
-Venetian MonsterStack $400 $40K GTD

In the 30 hours I managed to run KK into AA pre for 120BB in the Wynn 5/10, have a 700K chipstack (75BB entering) in the Venetian DeepStack entering the final two tables and losing AA < 99 pre for ~15BB, followed by me shoving my last 10BB with JJ in the big blind and being called off by 22 which also flops a set...20K up top in that MTT too. Sucks, I think if I held on both I probably would at least be final tabling. People kept on mentioning how this one asian dude to my left was the "best tournament player" and seemed like a MTT reg, but idk call me egotistic but I think tournament regs play pretty ABC spots and don't have any clue how to play postflop. Kinda wild actually on how thin I can value bet/aggressively bet/fold a lot of these recs as well playing em...

For the Aria 2/5, the first $1K bullet was definitely a punt. I leveled myself in a 3bp thinking that a reggish type player cbing 1/3 pot on flop on a 842r board 3 ways, then 1/4ing the turn was some sort of blocker type bet with hands such as AK/AQ/AJ type hands attempting to realize equity. I raise turn 2-3x and end up facing a min backraise, which really threw me off and didn't make much sense to me as at this point villain is repping either overs such as AA-KK (think JJ-TT would be betting larger for protection) or complete air. Second bullet was a flopped set vs. turned set on a fairly dry board on another 3BP, pretty standard stuff. Rest of Aria I don't remember, been too long or not notable enough for me.

Wynn 5/10 - the 2/5 game broke, and it was 4AM. I initially bought in for 1.5K, but topped up an additional 2.5K when I realized that the game only had one player I wanted to avoid. The rest of the players consisted of a passive whale who had an ~8K stack, a tilted rec who was down maybe $3-4K and kept on rebuying for $1.5K, a player who I had played previously before in 2/5 who also bought in for 1.5K (who would spaz randomly and 3B like $30-->$180 with hands like 72s and sometimes does with AQ/AK/AA/KK), and 2 other recs. Initially I was doing pretty well and was peak +2.5K, but kinda ran into it later on with KK < AA for 130 big blinds, followed by the table doing $20 straddle from time to time and me getting stacked w/ QQ < KK after I 3B squeeze and I face a 4B from a particularly aggressive opponent and I decide that it is fine to go broke. I don't really care overall that much about the trip on whether I'm up or down financially, but I do care about playing well and just GII good. Whenever I get it in bad or play bad, that's when the tilt really gets to me. I can't control the cards/variance and at the end of the day if variance didn't exist in poker, it'd literally just be equivalent of chess grandmasters sitting at the casino all day waiting for opponents.

A few things I have learned though during this time:

-The usual self reminder that yea, I'm a **** moron with BRM, the biggest mistake out of all of this I think
-I don't have what it takes to become a live pro currently (if ever). Adjusting from 500-1000 hands/hour into maybe 20-30/hour is pretty miserable. I can just braindead grind out the variance online, easier said than done for live...sure I beat the game at 200nl online/500nl on stars MI, but that doesn't necessarily translate into me completely crushing the games in Vegas if I don't handle my mental game and patience.
-Just gonna stick to playing 1/3 and probably the tournaments over at the Venetian for the rest of the trip, I do want to get to a point where I can just stick to playing 5/10+ for the future, just grind out 200NL/500NL online when I get back home till I have a sufficient risk tolerance to try it out again.
-Not all is bad though, there is plenty of time left in the trip & I have a pretty nice advantage of the image that I'm int'l asian money and am an aggressive maniac/bluff happy kid, when in reality if I'm barreling turn/3 streets, best u believe I'm pretty much doing it with a semibluff minimum. But yeah, I get called down really light compared to avg.
-Stop having the shitreg trait of talking about runbad, focus on minimizing my time about PLAYING BAD. I have friends on FB/discord who want to share HHs with me, which turn into them sending me countless DMs about them "running bad" or bad beat standard HHs...correct way to approach this is to have an open mindset on improvement and always being open to taking good advice from others.

I plan on playing Wynn & Aria 1/3 from here on out, but tbh at this point it's more for fun and damage control. I'll probably opt to play the Venetian DeepStack MTT as well, given how I haven't really played any live MTTs much at all before and didn't actually get to visualize how soft they were to me until yesterday.

Pictures:

Starting trip bankroll


Current trip bankroll (friend also flying down here on 24th to return 2.5K he owes me, not pictured. Also, that slot voucher is from a $100 freeplay)


Wynn 5/10, in for 4K until my eventual doom (will revisit and battle this later in my life 100%, was a great game tbh...)


Aria 2/5 session OOF


Donkament stack


Room @ Aria





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Good luck


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Thanks man!

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Originally Posted by Habman
GL, OP.

But Seattle?
Thanks! Seattle is because I have a friend back from university that is a software engineer there & she may be able to provide me with temp. housing for free. Same thing goes for another friend who also lives in Renton, WA & the fortune poker room is decent w/ tech & aerospace money flowing around.

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Good luck OP! Subbed and looking forward to your trip report! Are you from Michigan?


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Yup! Ann Arbor, MI.

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Good luck! Looking forward to hearing about your journey.
Thanks! I'll need it...

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Good luck!!!
Thanks

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GL, Relegades. Always like to read TRs and travel in general.

Pics of shoes and BR ofc.
TYTY, took pics of BR just for you but glanced over the shoes part...I wear Adidas Ultraboost about 100% of the time because of how comfortable they are to walk around.

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Subbed! you can have my first half of 2021 run-good as I won't be needing it!
I hope it's saved for back home when I return to play in the 200nl+ streetz

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GL OP, hopefully this thread will get back to you and not the derail. Meeting up with friends is better equity than whining about a $7 drop.
For sure. I'm completely fine with being transparent and honest with myself to write up & post, as it keeps me accountable & responsible. I really should be trying to minimize the derail as well, given the fact that I'm planning on moving in with a close friend into a 1br apt with her (she's going through a rough time overall w/ parents, and it'd be a plus for me as I am closer to the underground games in MI/would have a free ride to MGM Grand Detroit whenever I want). Living at my dad's apt. having to pay no rent prior to the likely situation in ~4 months or so has hit me with a real quick reality check. I will meet up with another friend who is flying over on the 24th who is a winning player at 200NL like me, he's playing some Venetian MTTs.

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Tunnels...
u wot m8

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03-23-2021 , 12:51 PM
you're roll is kind of lite for 5/10...
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03-23-2021 , 01:03 PM
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you're roll is kind of lite for 5/10...
Yea, it was a really good game tho + 2/5 completely broke at the time. Don't plan on playing any 5/10 rest of trip given that my one shot failed.

I took it as a first time life experience and will surely be back in the future for it, albeit in a much better BR situation & will just drop down in the future instead of moving up when 2/5 breaks.
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03-23-2021 , 01:04 PM
gl, still no shoes though
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03-23-2021 , 02:02 PM
Hey, someone else who uses the Poker Analytics app.
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03-23-2021 , 05:39 PM
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03-23-2021 , 07:57 PM
great TR; thanks for sharing

Sorry to hear about the run bad and self-described play bad, but you are self-aware and seem like a good bet to fix those mistakes

in regards to getting called down light when you are at least barreling with a semi-bluff...do you ever tell yourself "man, I am making other players (that play with him in the future) a lot of $ because he is going to think he can call down everyone light and will be a calling station and pay off wizard the rest of his life"... well if you don't, I tell myself that to justify my failed bluffs lol
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03-23-2021 , 08:29 PM
Tx for the update. Enjoy the rest of your trip!
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03-24-2021 , 11:20 AM
Subbing. Good luck during the rest of your trip.

Heading to Vegas tonight. Will be playing mainly PLO at Aria, but I'll keep a look out for you. I sit in 1/3 or 2/5 while waiting. I'm a middle-aged white woman, 5'7", thin, light brown hair (usually in pony tail), blue/green eyes. Usually drinking wine/champagne Will be there with my husband (short dark hair, blue eyes, slightly overweight ) through April 5.
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03-24-2021 , 11:16 PM
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Subbing. Good luck during the rest of your trip.

Heading to Vegas tonight. Will be playing mainly PLO at Aria, but I'll keep a look out for you. I sit in 1/3 or 2/5 while waiting. I'm a middle-aged white woman, 5'7", thin, light brown hair (usually in pony tail), blue/green eyes. Usually drinking wine/champagne Will be there with my husband (short dark hair, blue eyes, slightly overweight ) through April 5.
I'm playing at Caesars right now but I'll make a trip over soon to Aria!
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03-29-2021 , 02:58 AM
Man I want to be back in Vegas so bad (live in Asia, difficult at the moment). Have some rungood and have fun!

I'm also an Asian male, older than you and usually play at the Wynn 1/3 and 2/5. People call me down incredibly light - use that to your advantage and take them to Value Town.
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