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Old 06-21-2017, 07:02 PM   #101
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Re: Anyone have experience being trespassed at CET over something minor?

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So the solution was to have a tantrum like a child?
I've been here since May, and the number of social misfits/emotional toddlers infesting the tournament areas are astounding. I thought working in IT would have prepared me, but this is on a whole other level.
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Old 06-21-2017, 07:13 PM   #102
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Re: Anyone have experience being trespassed at CET over something minor?

Years ago, me and a friend card counted at blackjack at CET properties and were eventually read the tresspass card. About a month afterward I emailed CET and asked to have my e-mail directed to a poker supervisor. In e-mail I stated that I was asked not to play blackjack or even enter CET properties. I asked if it would be okay if I played in poker events like the WSOP. I was told it would be fine, but to only walk to and from the poker area. I can't remember who was in charge at the time I want to say their last name was Green but I don't remember it was years ago. For the first year or two I kept a printed copy of the email in my car and put it in my pocket whenever entering a CET property.

Getting barred from CET for card counting blackjack isn't necessarily a life time ban from CET. Being an ass-hat destroying stuff in a gift shop is a totally different story.
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Old 06-21-2017, 07:52 PM   #103
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well it looks like you're banned from CET properties so i wouldn't plan on WSOP next year.

i know one guy who got his CET ban overturned, he was smoking weed at the cromwell pool. took him a couple of years to get that fixed.

let me just make sure i have the story straight.

you made it sound like you were innocently shopping for some cheeze-its and your elbow brushed a couple of stupid kids toys on the ground.

"whoops" was what you uttered as you turned around to pick them up. but as you were bending over to retrieve them, paul blart swooped in and slapped on some cuffs.

OR

you were drunk and you walked into the bally's gift shop and started knocking **** over right in front of a security guard. and the security guard was like, "wow, this dude is so drunk and oblivious that he's wrecking **** right in front of me. better nip this in the bud."
Paul Blart hangs out that the Wynn, at least in one of the worst movies ever made , in which the Wynn inexplicably agreed to be featured.
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Old 06-21-2017, 10:33 PM   #104
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The most I have learned from this thread is that squid face is indeed a legend.
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Old 06-23-2017, 01:40 PM   #105
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I think this is actually the best telling of a story in a while. I'm waiting for an M Night Twist.
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Old 06-23-2017, 03:21 PM   #106
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Re: Anyone have experience being trespassed at CET over something minor?

I've only been going to Vegas several times a year since ~1980, so here goes.

1. Don't EVER call for security.
2. Stuff starts going sideways, leave. There are only about 10 million other places to buy liquor, drink,gamble, shop, bang hookers, etc.
3. Be a 'ghost'. Quiet, polite, avoid eye contact and no one will even know you are there. Most people are lazy and don't want to take action but bored security guard roid ragers are extremely dangerous.
4. If a pit boss or security takes an interest in you or your activities, leave. See #2
5. There is more to this story. TBC got 86'd for jerking it at the table, maybe the same thing happened here. Way to big of a reaction for a minor dust up.
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Old 06-23-2017, 03:40 PM   #107
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Re: Anyone have experience being trespassed at CET over something minor?

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I've only been going to Vegas several times a year since ~1980, so here goes.

1. Don't EVER call for security.
2. Stuff starts going sideways, leave. There are only about 10 million other places to buy liquor, drink,gamble, shop, bang hookers, etc.
3. Be a 'ghost'. Quiet, polite, avoid eye contact and no one will even know you are there. Most people are lazy and don't want to take action but bored security guard roid ragers are extremely dangerous.
4. If a pit boss or security takes an interest in you or your activities, leave. See #2
5. There is more to this story. TBC got 86'd for jerking it at the table, maybe the same thing happened here. Way to big of a reaction for a minor dust up.

Solid advice but LMAO at statement that OP maybe was jerking it at the table as well; LOL. No offense OP; just thought the post was funny because of the solid advice that finished with a Pee-Wee Herman accusation.
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Old 06-23-2017, 04:25 PM   #108
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I've only been going to Vegas several times a year since ~1980, so here goes.

1. Don't EVER call for security.
2. Stuff starts going sideways, leave. There are only about 10 million other places to buy liquor, drink,gamble, shop, bang hookers, etc.
3. Be a 'ghost'. Quiet, polite, avoid eye contact and no one will even know you are there. Most people are lazy and don't want to take action but bored security guard roid ragers are extremely dangerous.
4. If a pit boss or security takes an interest in you or your activities, leave. See #2
5. There is more to this story. TBC got 86'd for jerking it at the table, maybe the same thing happened here. Way to big of a reaction for a minor dust up.
There really isn't more to the story. It seems like an overreaction to me too. I acted like a stupid jerk in the moment. But I'm reasonable sure nothing would have happened if there hadn't already been several security guards in the store at the time I knocked over the toys (except being asked to pick them up).

I just found out that my Total Rewards card got deactivated. Very strange since I was just at Harrah's Cherokee redeeming a bunch of comps last weekend, and was still able to book future comp rooms earlier this week. FML
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Old 06-23-2017, 04:27 PM   #109
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Their accounting and security system isn't that good. You should be fine. Good luck!
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Old 06-23-2017, 06:21 PM   #110
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There really isn't more to the story. It seems like an overreaction to me too. I acted like a stupid jerk in the moment. But I'm reasonable sure nothing would have happened if there hadn't already been several security guards in the store at the time I knocked over the toys (except being asked to pick them up).

I just found out that my Total Rewards card got deactivated. Very strange since I was just at Harrah's Cherokee redeeming a bunch of comps last weekend, and was still able to book future comp rooms earlier this week. FML
As an alternative to personally writing a letter as others have mentioned; perhaps hire a lawyer and see what he/she suggests. I would guess their strategy, even if it is writing a letter, would still get you more traction and increase your chances of getting the ban lifted.
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Old 06-24-2017, 03:46 PM   #111
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I just found out that my Total Rewards card got deactivated. Very strange since I was just at Harrah's Cherokee redeeming a bunch of comps last weekend, and was still able to book future comp rooms earlier this week. FML
Smart of you to redeem your comps before they updated their database. Not unusual for companies to do this on a once a week or even a once a month basis. I do suggest not trying to check in for those future rooms.
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Old 06-24-2017, 08:27 PM   #112
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Re: Anyone have experience being trespassed at CET over something minor?

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There really isn't more to the story. It seems like an overreaction to me too.
I dunno. If the story is "Annoyed guy knocked over a few toys," it's an overreaction. If it's "Guy becomes increasingly demanding and upset when told he couldn't purchase alcohol, ultimately becoming violent despite security guards being present," the reaction makes more sense. Bally's take is probably closer to the second one.
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Old 06-25-2017, 01:53 AM   #113
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Smart of you to redeem your comps before they updated their database. Not unusual for companies to do this on a once a week or even a once a month basis. I do suggest not trying to check in for those future rooms.
I didn't expect them to suspend my account. Security didn't say anything about this affecting my ability to play outside of Vegas, so I'm pretty pissed off about this.

I had about $350 in reward credits when the incident happened, but it appears Bally's automatically applied almost all of them to my hotel bill after I was evicted. There were only like $15 in RCs in the account when it was suspended.

The comps I was redeeming at Cherokee were about $600 in freeplay coupons. The reason I realized my account was suspended was that on that morning I got another $330 in freeplay in the mail for specific days next month, and went online to change my next reservation to include those days.

But I doubt I will try go back unless my account is restored...in fact I just booked a trip to Borgata instead.
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Old 07-14-2017, 12:19 AM   #114
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bump. Good try OP!

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Old 07-14-2017, 12:21 AM   #115
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lol, say it isn't so.
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Old 07-14-2017, 12:23 AM   #116
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Haha I saw that and knew this thread would be bumped!

It's not me...I've never played the Main Event and have been back home on the East coast for a month now.

That seems like the worst possible thing a player could do if they were trying to sneak through.
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Old 07-14-2017, 12:43 AM   #117
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Here's a thread from when he was banned.

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...blackjack-game

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Old 07-14-2017, 01:07 AM   #118
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Here's his twitter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/joe_stiers?lang=en


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That old thread..they banned me I tried really hard to get back in and couldn't, found it was easier years later to just get a new playr car
9:35 PM - 13 Jul 2017

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Seemed to be working ok, didn't see why anyone would care, thing is you appeal once a year and it's a formality autorejected
9:36 PM - 13 Jul 2017

So it looks like he was somehow able to get another players card?

Also saw this:


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It's my real id with real name but they put the middle name on the card instead of last name
8:37 PM - 13 Jul 2017

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