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Anybody know how long a Vegas employer can restrict their employee from using the restroom? Anybody know how long a Vegas employer can restrict their employee from using the restroom?

05-04-2019 , 01:08 AM
Nevada is an at-will employment state, but I'm wondering if there are any laws or regulations (OSHA) maybe that allows the employer to restrict an employee's access to a restroom.
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05-04-2019 , 06:13 AM
Your HR department probably knows the answer.
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05-04-2019 , 07:26 AM
I don’t know about Nevada or the casino industry specifically, but in general the keyword is “reasonable” when it comes to stuff like bathroom breaks.

What’s considered reasonable depends on the kind of work somebody does. It’s certainly reasonable to ask a poker dealer to finish dealing a hand before running to the bathroom. It’s also reasonable to address the topic if a dealer has to use the bathroom during every down. At a minimum, a dealer can be required to wait for another dealer to take over his position at the table before leaving.

In practice, if you’re unhappy with an employees use of the bathroom outside of scheduled breaks, you’ll address that but don’t discipline because of it. If necessary, you find a different reason to terminate somebody. “I got fired because of my urinary tract infection caused by being denied a bathroom break” doesn’t look very good. Neither does “the whole poker room saw that I peed my pants and now I get mocked all over town”.

[my knowledge on the topic is based solely on one HR training for call center supervisors]

Last edited by madlex; 05-04-2019 at 07:33 AM.
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05-04-2019 , 10:54 AM
my advice.....stay away from taco bell before going to work...that should solve your issue...
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05-04-2019 , 04:03 PM
At the point where contracts are dusted off to investigate the use of the word 'reasonable' restroom breaks, it;s already gg.

If you are an employee, you should probably go and do something else at this point.
If you are an employer, you are probably going to have various opportunities to get rid of this person without having to cite excessive use of the bathroom.

If there is a genuine underlying medical problem and you/the employee have a decent track record, I'm sure they can re-assign you/them to a role that doesn't require break list disruption. If you/they have a lousy track record, it isn't worth the effort and is very unlikely to happen.
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05-04-2019 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
“I got fired because of my urinary tract infection caused by being denied a bathroom break”
This is one of the reasons I brought up the thread as the inability to use the bathroom in reasonable amounts of time may have been cause for a doctor's visit or two.

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Originally Posted by madlex
“the whole poker room saw that I peed my pants and now I get mocked all over town”.
I even considered wearing a catheter or something that would allow me to pee during the day. Only problem I saw is that my pants ride up my leg a bit when I sit down and people would be able to see the bag secured to my leg.
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05-04-2019 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DisRuptive1
This is one of the reasons I brought up the thread as the inability to use the bathroom in reasonable amounts of time may have been cause for a doctor's visit or two.



I even considered wearing a catheter or something that would allow me to pee during the day. Only problem I saw is that my pants ride up my leg a bit when I sit down and people would be able to see the bag secured to my leg.
I do NOT practice tort law and this is NOT legal advice.

Are you saying this incident already has happened to you ?

Has a reasonable accommodation of a relevant medical condition been refused ?

If so, call Glen Lerner, Paul, Ed, or Chas Golightly, or some other Nevada lawyer , one whose television ads promise a "free consultation".
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05-06-2019 , 12:56 AM
Apparently, this is the way all the casinos do it.
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05-06-2019 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DisRuptive1
Apparently, this is the way all the casinos do it.
That is why people join unions, and negotiate for better working conditions .... Dealers included, per Mar 20 2019 RJ article:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...union-1622337/

"Dealers at four Las Vegas casinos have voted to join the United Auto Workers union after taking the “unprecedented” step of ending their affiliation with a smaller labor organization.

Nearly 1,500 gaming dealers working at Bally’s, Harrah’s, Paris and Wynn Las Vegas voted over the weekend to join the UAW, the Detroit-based union said in a statement Sunday on its website.

Several hundred dealers at Caesars Palace will vote this weekend on whether to join the union as well."
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05-06-2019 , 02:12 PM
If you have a legitimate medical condition, the doctor SHOULD be able to provide you with appropriate documentation that you would then give your HR representative. Reasonable accommodation provisions will generally require that you afford the employer an opportunity to provide the accommodation.

Have you gotten such documentation and provided it to your HR representative? If not, why not?
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05-06-2019 , 02:50 PM
The question is what would constitute a reasonable accommodation?

Dealers should be allowed to use the bathroom between downs anyway, medical condition or not. If somebody frequently has to use the bathroom during downs, there’s the possibility of another dealer switching in for one or two hands but that’s basically all.

If you approach HR about the situation, they most likely will suggest a move to a different position where those bathroom breaks wouldn’t cause a problem. But that doesn’t help a dealer who wants to keep dealing.

FWIW, I know of a logistics business that installed chip card readers to enter and exit the bathrooms to crack down on employees “abusing their bathroom privileges” which sounds totally ridiculous but apparently is perfectly legal.
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05-06-2019 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by michelle227
If you have a legitimate medical condition
I don't have a medical condition, I just don't like holding my piss in for 3 and a half hours.

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Originally Posted by Gzesh
That is why people join unions, and negotiate for better working conditions .... Dealers included, per Mar 20 2019 RJ article:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...union-1622337/

"Dealers at four Las Vegas casinos have voted to join the United Auto Workers union after taking the “unprecedented” step of ending their affiliation with a smaller labor organization.
I don't think Poker dealers were part of this.
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05-06-2019 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DisRuptive1
I don't have a medical condition, I just don't like holding my piss in for 3 and a half hours.



I don't think Poker dealers were part of this.
They probably were not, but that is on them.
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05-08-2019 , 02:55 PM
[QUOTE=DisRuptive1;55098548]I don't have a medical condition, I just don't like holding my piss in for 3 and a half hours.

You do have a medical condition if it’s any sort of work for you to not piss for 3.5 hours. Normal individuals can do that without any effort at all
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05-08-2019 , 05:59 PM
He SAID he does not have a medical condition, Doctor.

He SAID he just doesn't like the rule.
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05-08-2019 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DisRuptive1
I don't have a medical condition, I just don't like holding my piss in for 3 and a half hours.
I hate to break the bad news to you but you do have a medical condition and I also think you have some mild to moderate psychological issues going on somewhere as well.
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05-08-2019 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
I hate to break the bad news to you but you do have a medical condition and I also think you have some mild to moderate psychological issues going on somewhere as well.
I said the same thing a couple posts ago. This guy has issues
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05-08-2019 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
He SAID he does not have a medical condition, Doctor.

He SAID he just doesn't like the rule.
My point of the post was that he’s wrong in saying he doesn’t have a condition. If he’s peeing that often he certainly has some issue
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05-08-2019 , 11:17 PM
he's not peeing that often.

he just doesn't pee before he starts his shift cuz he wants the excuse to take a break in the middle to pee.

not so different as how people used to start smoking so they would get extra breaks at work that non-smokers didn't get.
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05-09-2019 , 02:56 AM
Then he deserves to be fired for taking advantage of his employer and being a ****ty employee
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05-09-2019 , 07:37 AM
I've said it in the past and it gets more and more true every day, the American worker is such a disappointment anymore.


When you look around at the ****ty working conditions forced upon people , in the majority of cases, they have themselves and their peers to blame.
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05-09-2019 , 08:00 AM
Being allowed to use the bathroom between downs occasionally is certainly not an unreasonable request. I don’t want to know what ****ty jobs people have worked that they are used to working conditions where a short bathroom break is a big deal. Denying employees little things like that leads to unhappiness which leads to turnover. The latter costs more than an occasional bathroom break.

How long you can hold it also depends on how much you drink. Based on the fact that you rarely see a dealer carry a water bottle, I doubt many of them reach the recommended daily intake.
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05-10-2019 , 11:47 AM
JFC people, I’m 44 and there are times when I have to go take a piss every hour for a little while. It happens, it’s not a medical condition, it’s just called aging. All the auto-judgment of the SHEER AUDACITY of a min wage employee needing to take a leak more than once every 4 hours is pretty lame, and assuming it’s abuse of the system is pretty ****ed too. You’re really on the side of the giant corporation on this?
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05-10-2019 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
JFC people, I’m 44 and there are times when I have to go take a piss every hour for a little while. It happens, it’s not a medical condition, it’s just called aging. All the auto-judgment of the SHEER AUDACITY of a min wage employee needing to take a leak more than once every 4 hours is pretty lame, and assuming it’s abuse of the system is pretty ****ed too. You’re really on the side of the giant corporation on this?
+1

It was in my early 40s when I reached the, "Don't drink anything after 10pm or you'll have to wake up in the middle of the night to pee," stage of my life. I used to think that stuff like this didn't happen until you were about 70.

I try to be tolerant of younger people who think this stuff will never happen to them, cuz I was one of those ignorant brats myself, though there shouldn't be much tolerance for the unnecessary insults. I wonder what trolls did before the internet.
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