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06-17-2023 , 04:58 AM
Looking at the A’s records in the last several years and they have definitely done a lot better than the Raiders did after their last Super appearance in 2003.

When the Raiders go 8-8 (or now 8-9 or 9-8 with a 17 game schedule now) it’s a great season for them.

The Raiders have 2 seasons over .500 after 2003 and the A’s have 9.

Baseball can’t compete with football obviously but if the Raiders had 9 winning seasons that would be a major difference.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/t...AK/index.shtml
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06-17-2023 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Well it’s happening and fortunately I like baseball so I guess I’ll try to see the positives instead of the negatives.

The A’s won’t be the Knights, the Dodgers or the Yankees. But I do think some of the criticisms of them are harsh because they are so bad right now.

The A’s did win 86 games two years ago, made the playoffs the year before that, and won 97 games in each of the two years before that.

For a long time they have years when they suck, and then get much better as the young players make it to the big leagues, then the players leave leave and the pattern repeats itself.

Taxes are much lower in Nevada and Vegas is an appealing place to play so I wonder how much easier it will be to keep players if the owner ever cares about that.

With the expansion of the baseball playoffs I wouldn’t be surprised to see the A’s make the playoffs the first year they play in Vegas, or maybe even sooner.

And like you said, if the A’s aren’t good it can still be worth going to see other teams that are worth watching.
The thing is it's clear the owner is a cheap pos who doesn't actually care about the team. If he can take the taxpayer money, put a garbage product on the field and flip the team in a decade for 10x what he paid for it he's perfectly happy to do so(the Jeffrey Loria move.) it's an even bigger joke considering they actually have these cycles where they're good every few years and they just don't keep anyone.

As for the bolded you're right but it should be pointed out in 2020 they made the playoffs when half the teams made the playoffs in the 60 game season.

Although at the pace Manfed is going within 10 years half the league will be in the playoffs while they still play 162 games for no reason.
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06-18-2023 , 01:07 PM
Steve, did you go to the parade yesterday? Finally we can put this nightmare of good times and championship behind us!
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06-18-2023 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
The thing is it's clear the owner is a cheap pos who doesn't actually care about the team. If he can take the taxpayer money, put a garbage product on the field and flip the team in a decade for 10x what he paid for it he's perfectly happy to do so(the Jeffrey Loria move.) it's an even bigger joke considering they actually have these cycles where they're good every few years and they just don't keep anyone.

As for the bolded you're right but it should be pointed out in 2020 they made the playoffs when half the teams made the playoffs in the 60 game season.

Although at the pace Manfed is going within 10 years half the league will be in the playoffs while they still play 162 games for no reason.
Will wait to see what he does in Vegas, but he wanted out of Oakland and losing and tanking attendance helped that

But I’m fine with a garbage product actually, can’t wait to go to MLB stadium on Strip
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06-20-2023 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
Well, I guess it’s a question of who the target market is. Personally, I like the idea of cheaper seats to appeal to families and allow for more children to go to the game. Petco Park in San Diego is a fine example. They have a 42k+ seat stadium with a “downtown” type area for shops and a grassy field where families can set up blankets for picnics and watch the game.

I guess if Vegas is more interested in appealing to the rich and luxury markets, smaller makes more sense. Especially if they make the playoffs and the forced scarcity of seats drives the ticket prices on the secondary market up to the point where only the rich can afford to go.
Ticket prices are only part of the equation. Most teams would gladly sell $22 tickets to people who are going to go and spend $15 for a beer and $10 for a hot dog (maybe multiple times). Spending more on concessions than the ticket is the norm.

Concession sales are of the biggest pieces of contention beteeen sports teams and the cities they are located in. For example, in the city of Chicago, Wrigley Field is owned by the Cubs. They get 100% of the concessions of their games. Soldier Field (home of the Bears) is owned by the city. As a result, the Bears split the profits from concessions with the city.

It makes a huge difference.

Anyone know if the public money going to support the A's in Vegas will be backed by concession money?
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06-21-2023 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Steve, did you go to the parade yesterday? Finally we can put this nightmare of good times and championship behind us!
No I didn’t, even though I wanted to but I had to work. I did go to game 2 though. And as I told someone recently, the celebration has just gotten started. I wonder what tickets for opening day will cost because there will obviously be a celebration then.

As for the parking fees, Joe Biden would probably call them racist because he said that about some other fees that he called junk fees.
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06-22-2023 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
No I didn’t, even though I wanted to but I had to work. I did go to game 2 though. And as I told someone recently, the celebration has just gotten started. I wonder what tickets for opening day will cost because there will obviously be a celebration then.

As for the parking fees, Joe Biden would probably call them racist because he said that about some other fees that he called junk fees.
I mean resort fees aren't racist but they are a total scam.
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01-28-2024 , 03:56 AM
They're probably better off.

I heard there was a problem with the site being too small? Didn't they know that before?
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01-28-2024 , 04:25 AM
...and your source for this is?

I mean, I'd prefer they not come here, but everything I've seen says it's happening.
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01-28-2024 , 02:55 PM
The less Oakland fans in Las Vegas the better we have enough already with the football team.
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01-28-2024 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
They're probably better off.

I heard there was a problem with the site being too small? Didn't they know that before?
The Trop is a horrible location. Everyone knows they belong at the Rio but nobody wants to admit this. A **** team that can't break .500 is not what we need. Stay in Oakland.
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01-28-2024 , 04:50 PM
The A’s at the Trop location would be awesome. A baseball stadium right on the Strip would be amazing.

And while it would be preferable to get an expansion team it’s probably best to manage expectations here on two fronts

1) how long until possibly get an expansion team? A decade or more? Or never?

2) vast majority of mlb teams are running around wasting time. Vegas isn’t a big market. Won’t be able to realistically compete with the big boys. That’s just the way baseball is. Although the A’s have had some years where they over performed

But just being able to go to MLB games would be great, see other teams and their stars, and bad baseball teams don’t get blown out every game

Put me down as being disappointed if this falls through
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01-28-2024 , 05:50 PM
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A **** team that can't break .500 is not what we need. Stay in Oakland.
I don’t really want to see the A’s move. But this attittude is very silly.
The A’s were well above .500 in 4 of the last 6 seasons. They were only tanking this past year to convince everyone to let them move.

Baseball teams can turn around very quickly. My own team (Orioles) went from being the worst team in the AL to the best team in just two years. The Rangers won the World Series this year after losing 94 games the year before.
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01-28-2024 , 06:08 PM
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I don’t really want to see the A’s move. But this attittude is very silly.
The A’s were well above .500 in 4 of the last 6 seasons. They were only tanking this past year to convince everyone to let them move.

Baseball teams can turn around very quickly. My own team (Orioles) went from being the worst team in the AL to the best team in just two years. The Rangers won the World Series this year after losing 94 games the year before.
Yeah I didn’t know how good until I check, for three straight years they had .599, .599, and a .600 winning percentage

And I agree they were kind of tanking recently
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01-28-2024 , 06:14 PM
Baseball is a dying sport. Younger generations don’t care about it. 10 years after the stadium is built it will be almost 2040. How popular will baseball be by then?

And now the regular season means less than ever with the number of teams they let into the playoffs.
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01-28-2024 , 06:18 PM
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I don’t really want to see the A’s move. But this attittude is very silly.
The A’s were well above .500 in 4 of the last 6 seasons. They were only tanking this past year to convince everyone to let them move.

Baseball teams can turn around very quickly. My own team (Orioles) went from being the worst team in the AL to the best team in just two years. The Rangers won the World Series this year after losing 94 games the year before.
The A’s tank more than any team in the league though. This isn’t new for them.

Sadly it still makes them better than the Raiders who just suck every year. At least the A’s are occasionally very good before they lose all the good players and tank again.
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01-28-2024 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Baseball is a dying sport. Younger generations don’t care about it. 10 years after the stadium is built it will be almost 2040. How popular will baseball be by then?

And now the regular season means less than ever with the number of teams they let into the playoffs.
i love baseball and even i agree with this. and in ten years they'll probably have 16 teams in the playoffs.
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01-28-2024 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
They're probably better off.

I heard there was a problem with the site being too small? Didn't they know that before?
Any source for this post, like where did you "hear" this ?

It seems contrary to everything else seen to date Is this a stop the presses update ?

Curious, personally I was happy with the minor league team here, until they moved the f**k out to Summerlein from Cashman.

Any insight on Big League Weekend happening or not in 2024 ?
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01-29-2024 , 02:26 AM
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...and your source for this is?

I mean, I'd prefer they not come here, but everything I've seen says it's happening.
Chatter/rumor in a forum. That's why I asked here, figured someone might have heard something.
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01-29-2024 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
I don’t really want to see the A’s move. But this attittude is very silly.
The A’s were well above .500 in 4 of the last 6 seasons. They were only tanking this past year to convince everyone to let them move.

Baseball teams can turn around very quickly. My own team (Orioles) went from being the worst team in the AL to the best team in just two years. The Rangers won the World Series this year after losing 94 games the year before.
For this the A's would have to spend a lot of money. I don't see it. Don't forget the Knights made it to the finals first year. only missed the playoffs once and won all the marbles within 5 years. Raiders have made the playoffs or at least are scaring it. A's can't come here and stink up the joint. That arena will be empty very soon.
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01-29-2024 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Playlive
For this the A's would have to spend a lot of money. I don't see it. Don't forget the Knights made it to the finals first year. only missed the playoffs once and won all the marbles within 5 years. Raiders have made the playoffs or at least are scaring it. A's can't come here and stink up the joint. That arena will be empty very soon.
Raiders also only have 8/9 home games a year and basically all on Sunday. Even if they suck the arena is half filled with fans of the other team anyway in their weekend Vegas trips.

A's won't have that luxury with 81 home games.
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01-29-2024 , 02:48 PM
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They're probably better off.

I heard there was a problem with the site being too small? Didn't they know that before?
don't know where you get your news but this is false.
Trop announced their closing

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01-29-2024 , 03:15 PM


Tropicana closure date set ahead of A’s ballpark construction
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...ction-2989973/
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01-29-2024 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Playlive
For this the A's would have to spend a lot of money. I don't see it. Don't forget the Knights made it to the finals first year. only missed the playoffs once and won all the marbles within 5 years. Raiders have made the playoffs or at least are scaring it. A's can't come here and stink up the joint. That arena will be empty very soon.
Well as previously discussed the A’s really haven’t spent that much money in past but still haven’t stunk up the joint.

That stadium is going to be very popular on the Strip. Prices will be cheaper than the Knights and Raiders. Lots of tourists will be going to those games. It’s also not going to have a very large capacity

I expect it will do fine
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01-29-2024 , 11:11 PM
Bally's is it's own company?
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