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Old 10-02-2017, 01:57 PM   #76
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:00 PM   #77
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Also his father was a noterious bank robber
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:32 PM   #78
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Yes that's possible, maybe even probable. They reported he had over 10 heavy weapons, and a massive amount of ammo. The ammo in particular would be heavy would it not? This wasn't just one trip to his apartment, this was multiple trips.

I know he might not set off alarm bells, but this isn't some guy going off the rails in a moment of weakness. This was planned and deliberate. His motive outside of mass harm to innocent people? We will have to wait and try and understand.
The amount of ammo had to be incredibly heavy and would take a lot of trips. With that said, someone careful could definitely get that amount of ammo and guns and tripods up to his room without calling attention to himself.
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:43 PM   #79
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If I were bringing that many guns to a room, I would probably take several trips from my car, spread out over multiple days.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:26 PM   #80
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Bal,

It would be very easy to do without anyone giving you a second glance. I've taken multiple cases like this to my room in Vegas a number of times. Very common for people to do this with last-minute tradeshow stuff that couldn't get shipped to the venue in time.




I've also taken long sign carriers that look identical to gun cases.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:34 PM   #81
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Man, nothing found out about this guy that would lead him to do this...maybe someone Manchurian Candidate-ed him.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:42 PM   #82
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Man, nothing found out about this guy that would lead him to do this...maybe someone Manchurian Candidate-ed him.
Or the _real_ shooter(s?) left his body there.

Seriously, I'd like to know the lineage of his weapons. I assume Nevada's gun laws are as "strict" (Ha) as Arizona's when it comes to private sales/gun show sales. We may never know where, how or from whom he got these weapons.

I just assumed it was OJ when I saw the first headline.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:53 PM   #83
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My guess is that he had only checked in on the day and didn't leave his room except for maybe the odd quick run to the vending machine or nearby fast food outlet to ensure that no staff intruded and then listened to basically the whole concert and let fly. Not as some terrible hate for country music or its attendees but simply to the world and vegas in particular to which he lost all his money it seems previously.
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Old 10-02-2017, 03:59 PM   #84
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My guess is that he had only checked in on the day and didn't leave his room
He checked into the room on Thursday and housekeeping cleaned it daily.
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Old 10-02-2017, 04:15 PM   #85
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Heartbroken to wake up to see this. Death total now up to 50.

Gunfire was with 100% certainty fully automatic. My best guess is an M16/AR15 variant illegally modified for full auto capability. Even scarier would be an M249 Squad Assault Weapon, but it sounded like he was changing out clips vs. drums of ammo.

Based on the rate of fire I do *not* think it was a heavy barrel full auto machine gun (like an M240 or its variants)
From the sound I heard on tv it's too slow to be real full auto. They were saying somewhere it might have been a cranking device like a BMF Activator or bumpfire. There are also binary triggers that sound like that.
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Old 10-02-2017, 04:26 PM   #86
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The amount of ammo had to be incredibly heavy and would take a lot of trips. With that said, someone careful could definitely get that amount of ammo and guns and tripods up to his room without calling attention to himself.
A thousand rounds of AR-15 ammo weighs 30-40 pounds. Seeing people bringing rifle cases to their rooms is nothing new. People have any number of reasons for having rifles with them, and don't want to leave them in their cars.
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Old 10-02-2017, 04:30 PM   #87
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He checked into the room on Thursday and housekeeping cleaned it daily.
And they are saying on tv he was a country music fan.
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Old 10-02-2017, 04:31 PM   #88
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The killer had homes in Mesquite NV and Mesquite TX.

He had family in TX but why would he live in Mesquite NV? His partner is Filipino and probably had no family there? I'm not local and so don't know the context of Mesquite NV.

Sky News also called him a poker player on their main news broadcast but didn't back this up with any evidence.
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Old 10-02-2017, 04:56 PM   #89
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Prayers to victims.

2+2 Experts on weapons/rate of fire/ammo ITT ...
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Old 10-02-2017, 05:08 PM   #90
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I actually think this thread is more appropriate for info on him as a gambler (since that may be the theory of why he did it).

He must have been extremely well-known to the casino. A super high roller since $100 slots/video poker are usually in the high-limit areas of the casino (I don't know Mandalay Bay). Casinos love slots players. I am sure his room and food was comped by the casino weeks in advance. And he must have told them he specifically wants a room facing the concert.

There has to be tons of inside casino video of him too. Especially in the high-limit area.

They also would know the true extent of his winning and losses. He may have been on credit before he did this horrific act.

I am not sure this will become public though.
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Old 10-02-2017, 05:25 PM   #91
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His brother said he made millions in real estate and still owned a plane. I wouldn't speculate on "why" by just guessing and wait for facts to come out.
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Old 10-02-2017, 05:27 PM   #92
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I actually think this thread is more appropriate for info on him as a gambler (since that may be the theory of why he did it).
TBH if I were a mod I would make it solely a thread for checking in to make sure people are okay and exile all the gun talk and gun control talk to somewhere else.

Everyone's super emotional after an event like this and discussion should be reserved for cooler times. Like, seriously, if people want to brag about how they identified the type of gun based on the sound or if they want to blame Trump/Obama or whatever, I suggest exactly one month from today we create a discussion thread and people can bring up anything that they've been holding onto for 4 weeks.

My prediction? The thread will be a ghost town, and everyone will have forgotten - for the better - what their gut emotional response was.
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Old 10-02-2017, 05:37 PM   #93
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There are threads on this event in at least three forums.
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Old 10-02-2017, 05:41 PM   #94
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TBH if I were a mod I would make it solely a thread for checking in to make sure people are okay and exile all the gun talk and gun control talk to somewhere else.

Everyone's super emotional after an event like this and discussion should be reserved for cooler times. Like, seriously, if people want to brag about how they identified the type of gun based on the sound or if they want to blame Trump/Obama or whatever, I suggest exactly one month from today we create a discussion thread and people can bring up anything that they've been holding onto for 4 weeks.

My prediction? The thread will be a ghost town, and everyone will have forgotten - for the better - what their gut emotional response was.
Top Story: Las Vegas shooter was a $100 a hand poker player.

I don't think you could ever find a more relevant topic. This is a message board that was founded purely for poker purposes. You also have a supposed poker player that committed the worse mass-murder in US history. Of course there is going to be a lot more interest than normal.

And this person had to be extremely well-known to the casino as a resident and a prolific gambler. In the top 1% of 1%. They most likely paid for his room where he unleashed the most mass murderers on domestic soil ever by one individual.
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Old 10-02-2017, 05:44 PM   #95
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Re: Active shooter in Mandalay Bay.

I wonder if he had an issue with someone he knew would be at that concert
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Old 10-02-2017, 05:49 PM   #96
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I wonder if he had an issue with someone he knew would be at that concert
Are you speculating that it was a failed assassination of Dan Bilzerian?
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Old 10-02-2017, 06:14 PM   #97
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Are you speculating that it was a failed assassination of Dan Bilzerian?
You never know, jealousy is a helluva drug
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Old 10-02-2017, 06:17 PM   #98
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I just woke up to a hundred messages asking if I was okay....I'm fine, MSchu18, thanks for asking.

I live right down LVB, only a couple miles away. Absolutely insane.


Relieved you're OK Active shooter in Mandalay Bay.

I lived through the Boston Marathon bombing 4 years ago. These tragedies are pure hell from an emotional perspective.
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Old 10-02-2017, 06:18 PM   #99
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Relieved you're OK Active shooter in Mandalay Bay.

I lived through the Boston Marathon bombing 4 years ago. These tragedies are pure hell from an emotional perspective.
We are all here for you. Please refer this number to anyone struggling 1-800-273-8255.
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Old 10-02-2017, 06:23 PM   #100
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Sheriff of LV just said GO FUND me account is over 1 million and 8 hour wait to donate blood in live press conference.
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