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10-19-2017 , 05:45 AM
the fix is always in
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10-19-2017 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Heard an interesting angle on why Ellen Degeneres, hard-hitting news reporter, would be the one to get an interview with Campos the security guard. Turns out MGM sponsors that show and MGM has Ellen-themed slot machines in some of their casinos. They also didn't have to worry too much that Ellen would start hitting him with tough hardball questions.
MGM gave him a choice.

Ellen, The Simpsons, The Walking Dead or Buffalo!!
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10-19-2017 , 01:00 PM
Too bad he couldn't choose Big Bang Theory, at least it has a cute chick.
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10-19-2017 , 02:33 PM
Do people realize that there are Ellen slots in non-MGM casinos, too?
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10-19-2017 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
Do people realize that there are Ellen slots in non-MGM casinos, too?
Not conspiracy theorists, no.
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10-19-2017 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Heard an interesting angle on why Ellen Degeneres, hard-hitting news reporter, would be the one to get an interview with Campos the security guard. Turns out MGM sponsors that show and MGM has Ellen-themed slot machines in some of their casinos. They also didn't have to worry too much that Ellen would start hitting him with tough hardball questions.
Sounds like an angle put forth by someone who has no ****ing clue how publicity/entertainment business operate.
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10-19-2017 , 05:26 PM
I wonder how much MGM paid Jesus to have him forgo other interviews and only appear on Ellen.
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10-19-2017 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Heard an interesting angle on why Ellen Degeneres, hard-hitting news reporter, would be the one to get an interview with Campos the security guard. Turns out MGM sponsors that show and MGM has Ellen-themed slot machines in some of their casinos. They also didn't have to worry too much that Ellen would start hitting him with tough hardball questions.
Those Ellen slots are in Stations and Venetian too.
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10-20-2017 , 02:09 PM
I think I've seen an Ellen machine in nearly every casino I've been in.
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10-20-2017 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I wonder how much MGM paid Jesus to have him forgo other interviews and only appear on Ellen.
More than Hannity was offering.
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10-20-2017 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
I wonder how much MGM paid Jesus to have him forgo other interviews and only appear on Ellen.
Zero

If anyone is paying anything (and that's not a guarantee) it would be the show, and they would be the ones with the incentive to keep him exclusive.
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10-20-2017 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
Zero

If anyone is paying anything (and that's not a guarantee) it would be the show, and they would be the ones with the incentive to keep him exclusive.
MGM's incentive is far greater than that of Ellen's show. In fact, I'm not seeing how Ellen's show really has an incentive to keep it exclusive. It's not like those episodes are replayed. The incentive for Ellen's show would just be to get the first interview..ie an interview with Ellen and then no more interviews for the next 5 days.

It makes far more sense that MGM setup the interview with Ellen, with the understanding that she would only throw softball questions at him (which I believe is the general style of her interviews anyways). MGM is about to be entangled in very expensive lawsuits and it's important that they convey a very consistent story with no slip-ups.
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10-21-2017 , 12:13 PM
Since as you pointed out that MGM is about to be embroiled in lawsuits they have no incentive for their security guard (who I assume is now a former security guard) to go on the show. IANAL but there seems no upside for them and no PR value that would outweigh the negative legal ramifications if he says something that ends up hurting them in court. Lawyers in pretty much any situation will only offer the advice of shut up shut up shut up.

And yes, talk shows and journalists do compete for the exclusives. This I know firsthand.
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10-21-2017 , 02:44 PM
Seems that would look super sketchy for Campos to not interview at all. By interviewing with Ellen they can push the narrative that they weren't trying to hide anything. The show pushed the narrative that Campos (a representative of MGM) is a hero that saved many lives.

Do we think these shows reached out to Campos and negotiated directly with Campos? I would think this was negotiated mostly with MGM. Campos simply had to agree to do an exclusive with an interviewer that won't ask him tough questions, won't cut him off, and will give him season tickets to the Raiders and donate money on his behalf (via show sponsors).

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“One of the MGM officials voiced her concern to Jesus that [Fox News’ Sean] Hannity was a very difficult interview, he would interrupt him, etc.” said David Hickey, international president of the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America. “That’s one of the reasons I asked to have a private meeting with them because I was concerned about how or if it would affect Jesus’ confidence in completing the interviews that we had already scheduled
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I was concerned when, four hours before these interviews are to start, that questions of him being capable to do these interviews are being thrown out,” Hickey said.
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Campos was staying in a Las Vegas-area hotel suite, with a living room and an adjoining bedroom. Hickey and MGM officials met privately in the bedroom about 1 p.m. When they came out at around 2 p.m., Campos had disappeared.
Source: https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...egas-shooting/

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“MGM was behind the decision to call off all the interviews and did a deal with Ellen, knowing she would not play hardball on the timeline as long as she had the exclusive,” a TV insider told the news outlet."
http://nypost.com/2017/10/19/vegas-s...view-to-ellen/

TV insider is quite a vague description of the source.
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10-21-2017 , 02:47 PM
Here is [one interpretation of Campos' media appearance:

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Simultaneously, security guard Jesus Campos (he of the controversial timeline) is on media lockdown, for fear his statements could have probative value in the expected wave of litigation. Worried that inconsistent accounts of the fatal event could crop up in court, MGM has only permitted him to appear on Ellen. No Hannity or Rachel Maddow for you, Jesus! (Campos, who had booked a slate of TV appearances, is at the center of a timeline that has been changed thrice over by Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo, creating headaches for MGM’s public-relations department.) Las Vegas Metro says that Campos called for police backup immediately but an earlier timeline had him waiting six minutes before whistling in the law, a possibility that would open MGM to massive allegations of liability.

Campos’ union boss, deplorably, was booking Campos’ exploitive slate of interviews, before the guard went to ground. (Under pressure from MGM?) “I was in a meeting with MGM’s upper management and they were definitely concerned about how tough someone like [Sean] Hannity would be on him and they voiced their opinions,” said International Union, Security Police & Fire Professionals of America prexy David Hickey (left), who absolves himself of responsibility for the media circus. “I thought they were being negative, telling him that someone was going to be tough and how they were worried about his health — it wasn’t the thing he needed to hear four hours before the interviews were going to begin.” For conspiracy theorists, Hickey’s story was that MGM execs took Campos into a bedroom to have a private chat and that when Hickey went looking for him, Campos had disappeared.
I'm not sure why it's necessarily deplorable that the head of the union was booking interviews, unless he was getting a cut of whatever Hannity was paying.
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10-21-2017 , 09:32 PM
Because modern news "reporting" always has to have a villain of some sort.
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10-22-2017 , 11:52 AM
Description above makes sense. Campos was going to do a bunch of interviews and MGM couldn't stop him, but could add enormous pressure. Doing the one appearance in a safer environment and having their own legal and PR teams coach him for it was where they settled.
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10-22-2017 , 10:00 PM
They could have paid him a large sum to sign an NDA. Then for PR purposes they allowed him to appear on Ellen. That is probably what happened.
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10-22-2017 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by eco74
Description above makes sense. Campos was going to do a bunch of interviews and MGM couldn't stop him, but could add enormous pressure. Doing the one appearance in a safer environment and having their own legal and PR teams coach him for it was where they settled.
Our company policy states only the PR dept. can do interviews with the media regarding corporate affairs. I'm not allowed to, if I want to keep my job.
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10-23-2017 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
They could have paid him a large sum to sign an NDA. Then for PR purposes they allowed him to appear on Ellen. That is probably what happened.
This is pretty much what I was getting at
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10-25-2017 , 03:44 PM
That makes no sense whatsoever.
If you sign a non-disclosure and are then allowed to disclose in public, what was the point of the NDA in the first place?

To me, it's far more likely that he didn't want to do any press himself. Rightly or wrongly, he felt bad and maybe even feels a part of guilt that he could've done something to stop that nutter. He doesn't want to revisit it again and again.

He finally agreed to do one appearance only, with someone who'd be openly sympathetic.
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10-25-2017 , 03:53 PM
Similar to other mass shootings, Paddock's hard drive is missing.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-s...ry?id=50709285
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10-25-2017 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fdevny
Similar to other mass shootings, Paddock's hard drive is missing.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-s...ry?id=50709285
I thought this was interesting:

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His finances did not appear to be a problem and Paddock had settled any debts he had with casinos shortly before the attack, a source said.
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10-25-2017 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
That makes no sense whatsoever.
If you sign a non-disclosure and are then allowed to disclose in public, what was the point of the NDA in the first place?

To me, it's far more likely that he didn't want to do any press himself. Rightly or wrongly, he felt bad and maybe even feels a part of guilt that he could've done something to stop that nutter. He doesn't want to revisit it again and again.

He finally agreed to do one appearance only, with someone who'd be openly sympathetic.
He previously agreed to multiple appearances with several news outlets, revisiting it again and again.

The point of a NDA is to control what information gets disseminated and how.
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10-25-2017 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
I thought this was interesting:

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His finances did not appear to be a problem and Paddock had settled any debts he had with casinos shortly before the attack, a source said.
It doesn't seem interesting to me. The only people that said otherwise were the screwballs on 2p2.

So Campos ran off the Mexico for a little visit. Whatever happened to "don't leave town"? This whole investigation is a circus. And not because Mandalay Bay was build by Circus Circus.
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