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10-13-2023 , 10:29 PM
Hard to find someone that doesn't exist.

Whale blew millions more than he was comfortable with after getting temporary credit extensions. Now he's making up a story about getting drugged by an employee working in the private high roller room? Lol ok.
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10-13-2023 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Koshka
Hard to find someone that doesn't exist.

Whale blew millions more than he was comfortable with after getting temporary credit extensions. Now he's making up a story about getting drugged by an employee working in the private high roller room? Lol ok.
You could be the guy that drugged him and I’ll turn you in.
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10-14-2023 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Koshka
Hard to find someone that doesn't exist.

Whale blew millions more than he was comfortable with after getting temporary credit extensions. Now he's making up a story about getting drugged by an employee working in the private high roller room? Lol ok.
maybe maybe not. wouldn't be the first time a casino drugged a whale.
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10-14-2023 , 12:54 PM
waitress...
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10-14-2023 , 10:06 PM
Wonder if he has a blood test. Even f he does, it would probably be easy enough to self-administer some ketamine afterward in a desperate attempt to save his own keester.
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10-14-2023 , 10:13 PM
sounds really far-fetched but, as we all know, MGM has done dumber things in the past
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10-14-2023 , 10:26 PM
'...yeah boss, I don't know what happened! I woke up with a buttplug inserted, silk bra and lipstick on and my company credit card had $3.5 milly on it! I must have been drugged!..'

Really only two people to question, the bartender and cocktail server, no way it could of been pulled off without them involved unless it was some Mission Impossible shoot ketamine into the drink with an air rifle from behind the drapes type of trick. MGM has too much to lose to pull this kind of crap.
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10-14-2023 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
sounds really far-fetched but, as we all know, MGM has done dumber things in the past

Caesar's too with Terrance Watanabe.
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10-15-2023 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dw44
Caesar's too with Terrance Watanabe.
Now that's a good story. You knew he was bad when Steve Wynn kicked him out Wynn knowing he wasn't worth the trouble.
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10-15-2023 , 12:54 PM
Watanabe is a sad story...
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10-15-2023 , 02:13 PM
Was the guy "visibly intoxicated" while he was gambling ?

Nevada State Gaming Regulations and Alcohol

Under Nevada State Gaming Control Regulations, it is grounds for disciplinary action on the part of any gaming licensee, agent or employee that would reflect or tend to reflect discredit upon the State of Nevada or the gaming industry. This includes:

Permitting persons who are visibly intoxicated to participate in gaming activity. (NGCB 5.011.01)

Regulation 5, Operation of Gaming Establishments Page 2
(Rev. 04/18)

5.011 Grounds for disciplinary action. The board and the commission deem any activity on the part of any licensee, his agents or employees, that is inimical to the public health, safety, morals, good order and general welfare of the people of the State of Nevada, or that would reflect or tend to reflect discredit upon the State of Nevada or the gaming industry, to be an unsuitable method of operation and
shall be grounds for disciplinary action by the board and the commission in accordance with the Nevada Gaming Control Act and the regulations of the board and the commission. Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, the following acts or omissions may be determined to be unsuitable methods of operation:
1. Failure to exercise discretion and sound judgment to prevent incidents which might reflect on the repute of the State of Nevada and act as a detriment to the development of the industry.
2. Permitting persons who are visibly impaired by alcohol or any other drug to participate in gaming activity."

Under the influence of drugs counts as intoxicated.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...ug-impairment/

Whether or not a patron can prove that a casino spiked a drink or served a drink to a drunk gambler likely not required get a settlement against enforcement of a marker if the casino permits a visibility intoxicated person, under the influence of drugs, to gamble on related extensions of credit which the marker evidences.

1. marker signed, funds advanced,
2. thereafter, a visibly intoxicated guy gambles, losing the funds advanced on the marker,
3. Rinse and repeat.

Proof of a "smoking drink" being served would be leverage as an element for a counterclaim, but not sure it is strictly a marker defense. That the gambling occurred while the patron was visibly intoxicated should be provable and prompt meaningful settlement discussions. ... (I have not reviewed all the rulings on this in recent years or the filings in this matter, , just gave the regulations a quick look.)

(The above is NOT offered as legal advice or opinion and should not be seen as such by anyone. It is just something anyone can find on the internet, and posted here to advance meaningful discussion in this thread. I have no dog in this fight.)

Last edited by Gzesh; 10-15-2023 at 02:31 PM.
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10-15-2023 , 05:19 PM
We can band together and solve this for an attractive split.

My guess is a xanax blackout, or 100 spins at the 5k slots, which he should chalk it up to variance.
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10-15-2023 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
maybe maybe not. wouldn't be the first time a casino drugged a whale.
Stories?...
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10-15-2023 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jcorb
'...yeah boss, I don't know what happened! I woke up with a buttplug inserted, silk bra and lipstick on and my company credit card had $3.5 milly on it! I must have been drugged!..'

Really only two people to question, the bartender and cocktail server, no way it could of been pulled off without them involved unless it was some Mission Impossible shoot ketamine into the drink with an air rifle from behind the drapes type of trick. MGM has too much to lose to pull this kind of crap.
Yeah. And if you think it through... like the shift manager or whoever would have to decide to commit a really serious crime that doesn't benefit him that much. Then approach a waitress/bar tender he probably barely knows and ask them to join in on the crime. It doesn't really benefit them either.

Would you risk prison just so the gigantic corporation you work for made .1% more profit? You couldn't even take credit for it.

Would K even have this effect?
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10-18-2023 , 05:36 PM
and if the shift or casino manager was in on it he or she would have to worry about an $14/hr bartender or server rolling over on them when the cops dangle a 5 year sentence over them. They would sing like canaries.
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10-19-2023 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ES2
Yeah. And if you think it through... like the shift manager or whoever would have to decide to commit a really serious crime that doesn't benefit him that much. Then approach a waitress/bar tender he probably barely knows and ask them to join in on the crime. It doesn't really benefit them either.

Would you risk prison just so the gigantic corporation you work for made .1% more profit? You couldn't even take credit for it.

Would K even have this effect?
what about a host is who is paid on commission.
People have risked their jobs for a lot less.
We've had dealers in multiple casinos fired for stealing a few hundred from the well.

lol@anyone who thinks these casinos have never drugged a big player. I don't think it's common at all but it definitely happens.

Additionally even if this guy wasn't drugged by the casino but drugged somewhere else they still aren't supposed to be giving markers to someone who is so out of it they can cut their hand over bleeding all over the table and not even notice or so out of it they can't even walk properly.

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10-19-2023 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
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Additionally even if this guy wasn't drugged by the casino but drugged somewhere else they still aren't supposed to be giving markers to someone who is so out of it they can cut their hand over bleeding all over the table and not even notice or so out of it they can't even walk properly.
THIS, 95%.

A casino may not let someone who is clearly intoxicated gamble, it is spelled out in the regulations I posted above.

No intentional tort, like slipping the guy a mickey is required for the casino to violate gaming regs.

Now, whether or not a casino violation of gaming regs suffices to give this guy back his whole $500K is a slightly different issue, but the odds are tilted heavily in the intoxicated whale's favor of some recovery in a settlement negotiation.
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10-20-2023 , 01:32 AM
Where are his friends? Are they helping too or did they skip town?
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01-02-2024 , 05:24 AM
Whatever happened, it seems early in the day for it

I'd like to see his $$$$$ marker history. Was this huge compared to his gambling history

Can't see them drugging him...

Note this is totally different from watanabe debacle
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01-02-2024 , 05:25 AM
I agree if he was "out of it" for whatever reason then they should not be extending markers
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01-02-2024 , 10:44 AM
Seems like a nice scam. Sit down and After the very first drink you receive pretend to be out if it and incoherent. If you win big great , if you lose big make up some story about being drugged and file a lawsuit.
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01-02-2024 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
Seems like a nice scam. Sit down and After the very first drink you receive pretend to be out if it and incoherent. If you win big great , if you lose big make up some story about being drugged and file a lawsuit.
so now you not only lose money to the casinos you lose even more money to lawyer fees, not a very well thought out scam
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01-02-2024 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
Seems like a nice scam. Sit down and After the very first drink you receive pretend to be out if it and incoherent. If you win big great , if you lose big make up some story about being drugged and file a lawsuit.
If a patron appears to be intoxicated and is incoherent, a gaming licensee is NOT allowed to let him gamble. That's the rule and a casino would violate the regulation under the scenario you describe.

People make up some story and threaten/file lawsuits every day. Business as usual in the court system, nothing special in our scenario. That is why casinos have defense counsel inhouse or on retainer, to defend against frivolous claims that are brought to court.
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01-02-2024 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
If a patron appears to be intoxicated and is incoherent, a gaming licensee is NOT allowed to let him gamble. That's the rule and a casino would violate the regulation under the scenario you describe.

People make up some story and threaten/file lawsuits every day. Business as usual in the court system, nothing special in our scenario. That is why casinos have defense counsel inhouse or on retainer, to defend against frivolous claims that are brought to court.
Sure and as with anything else in the casino the more you're betting the more they'll look the other way on. Bet 100 dollars a hand and kick the garbage across the pit when you lose a hand they'll kick you out. Do the same thing betting 100k a hand and they'll apologize that the garbage got in the way of your foot.
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