Maybe they collect the extra rake anyway and give them back when they can get more players per table. But who knows.

I'm pretty sure we can end the thread right here. This is a good as it can be said and I'm disappointed I didn't say it that way to start with.

Will the casinos most likely spread the same games they usually do? I'm guessing yes why not?

I’d be happy to play a 4-max tournament, but I don’t think I’d try to play a 4-max cash game. The games would just be too unstable and likely to break as soon as one player got up.

Yup.

On the extremely small chance I'm wrong, I can't wait to grind my face off playing 4max at any place that has it. But yeah, fish are completely screwed in 4max so I doubt they'd play it.

Honestly think there are a ton of live pros that are not as pumped as they should be. Assuming they are comfortable being in a casino at some point for health reasons, they should be absolutely ecstatic to be playing short handed. They should be playing a ton of hours promoting games and action. If you are really confident in your game playing against fewer people and playing larger vpip should be the dream.

To me limit games are great shorthanded, hold em, Omaha 8, stud 8, stud, whatever. For NL I’d rather have more players, more chance of bigger pots and someone donking off. Most bad players aren’t naturally aggressive so seems like bigger pots would be less likely at least at 1-3 games. I play a lot of Big O and those games can be good short especially with mandatory stradddle. Will be interesting to see what types of games are spread, I’m sure majority NL but will be interesting to see the mix when it reopens.

i'm just trying to be realistic. i don't see this panning out at all.

i'd love it if it actually did.

The live "pros" wont be there playing 4 handed. All they will be doing is folding nonstop and losing to rake. The idea that they will dominate all the other live "pros" is funny...

Right this is my point, there are so many guys that play live poker for a living that would be just as uncomfortable playing a larger vpip as the recreational players. I totally understand there are plenty of recreational players that only like playing with 8 or 9 players and don’t want to mix it up a ton so 4 or 6 max will keep them home. At the same time, there are plenty of people that come to the casino to not nit it up (and are certainly more dangerous short handed). I think immediately dismissing the idea that people will play short handed is silly, it will just take some adapting.

Has to be full ring, even with masks, gloves and partitions or w/e. It needs to be that before this fish returns.

4 max tourney is genius and would certainly play that.

The rake would have to be twice as high to make a 4 max tournament viable.

How much money will live pros have right now? Even the 5-10 pro has a chance to be really struggling if he manages his money poorly, or doesn’t play that many hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAlTOfl9F2w

Any live "pros" will have savings/"life roll" plus their minimum 100 buy in bankroll for the stakes they play.

Now, here you see everyone classifies themselves as a "pro." But not many are in reality and life. Most may have 2-3 months rent, car, utility in the total money they have.

It will be a very different landscape when this is over. Ton's of "pros" will be scraping from any source they have to get a min buy in and play super tight waiting for a big hand. Then get up for the required hour and rat hole for fear of losing it. Then re buy short again. Rinse - repeat.

Games will not be good except in a few locations (Vegas won't be one of them for a while.)

On the bright side of things, all live pros are welcome to join us online.

Yeah i cant see how it would be profitable for the casino to run anything less

Pretty good sarcasm.

(I played a few times at the Veneto in Panama quite a few years ago which was the only room I've ever seen with uncapped rake in live games. I think it catered to visitors from nearby countries who really did not care.)

would think they would have to readjust the rules in regards to being away from the table at 4 handed tables. like no more than 1 person allowed away from the game essentially a 1 man walking rule. also couldnt be allowed to be away for more than 10-15 minutes with 1 break max per hour. cant be having the habitual walkers in games and def no 45 minute dinners. gonna have to focus on stay seated if you wanna play or dont play at all

I agree with this and really don't think 3 people will continue to play in a lot of instances. I don't think 4 handed is even feasible.

I'd guess the CA poker rooms will probably be testing grounds cause they don't have machines to fall back on. This is a pandoras box and really all the outcomes are negative ones.

I think the games will continue 3 handed without issue. People willing to play 4 handed are not going to sit out when the game goes 3 handed. I can see where a 1 man walking rule would be helpful along with being picked up after 5(?) missed bb buttons.

I think there will be waiting lists and no shortage of players wanting to see cards so picking players up and filling spots shouldn't be an issue unless several properties open their rooms on the first go round which is unlikely.

I wouldn't be surprised if the regulations are relaxed to allow 6 max after a single week of re-opening. Maybe even full ring and MTT's within 4 weeks if Vegas and the surrounding areas don't have a MASSIVE spike in hospitalizations.

I think it's obvious that there will be a spike in cases when they open, same with all cities/towns, but that's the price you pay for opening. Trying to quarantine until a successful vaccine is available is not possible given the virus isn't as deadly as we thought and treatments are becoming more and more effective every day.

^^^ Agreed.

Now is the time to copyright a poker game that works for 4 players, builds reasonably sized pots, and is fun to play.

Speaking as an average schmuck that plays poker sometimes, not interested. Nor will most other people. If it isn't hold 'em, people just don't want to play it.