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02-19-2018 , 03:04 AM

kansaisupra

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 679

Just doing a quick rake update. Please correct me if I’m wrong

Wynn $5
Venetian $5 + $1
Treasure Island $4 $2 not sure
Harrahs $5 + $2
Mirage $5 + $1
Ceasers $5
Flamingo $5 + $1?
ballys $5 + $2
Planet Hollywood $5 + $1
Bellagio $5
Aria $5
Mgm $5 + $2?
Excalibur $5 + $1
Mandalay Bay $5 + $2?

The rake I’m pretty sure, the jackpot drop I’m not that sure

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02-19-2018 , 01:44 PM

zen.master

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 176

Bally's is 5 + 1

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02-19-2018 , 05:22 PM

wj94

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7,944

Red Rock $4+1

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02-19-2018 , 06:45 PM

vegas!!!!!

enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 55

Flamingo and Mirage are both 5 + 2.

Harrahs, Flamingo, and MGM all take the first promo dollar as soon as there is a flop, even if pot is just $4. The second dollar is taken at 30 for Harrahs and Flamingo and 50 at MGM.

As far as I know the rest of rooms take the first promo dollar at $10.

Golden Nugget is $4 +1

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02-19-2018 , 07:37 PM

yocrackattack

grinder

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 586

Pretty sure Caesars is the only $4

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02-19-2018 , 09:49 PM

kkcountry

BBV MS Paint Rapid Response Squad

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 31,263

can somebody list the strip rooms who take an extra drop where it *doesn't* go towards some sort of weekly/monthly freeroll with an hours requirement? no interest in subsidizing the tunnel dwelling 1/2 grinders

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02-20-2018 , 12:02 AM

ZenRabbit

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 529

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Originally Posted by yocrackattack

Pretty sure Caesars is the only $4

Not anymore. $5 is correct. And no promo drop.

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02-20-2018 , 12:13 AM

madlex

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 17,393

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Originally Posted by yocrackattack

Pretty sure Caesars is the only $4

That changed almost a year ago.

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02-20-2018 , 12:21 AM

chillrob

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 20,855

Orleans $3+2

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02-20-2018 , 12:28 AM

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NickMPK

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 11,567

Anyone know what rooms use a time charge and at what limits?

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02-20-2018 , 12:34 AM

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chillrob

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 20,855

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Originally Posted by NickMPK

Anyone know what rooms use a time charge and at what limits?

Bellagio has time charge for 20/40 limit and above. For NL I think 5/10 and above but not sure.

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02-20-2018 , 12:50 AM

#12

Steve00007

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 9,163

I thought this thread was going to be about the rooms going to $6 rake.

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02-20-2018 , 01:36 AM

#13

DBurg

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 207

I'm aware that residents of Las Vegas play on the strip; but, I am curious as to what the breakdown is in regards to visitors vs residents in the strip poker rooms. Having promo drops for rooms with greater Las Vegas resident participation seems logical. For poker rooms where the majority of players are visitors, a promo drop seems kind of unethical (don't know if that is too strong a description).

Anyway, thanks for the update on rake. Hope this post is not a hijack.

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02-20-2018 , 01:39 AM

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chillrob

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 20,855

The biggest rooms for tourists are the ones listed above with no promo drop, plus Venetian, which didn't have a promo drop until very recently.

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02-20-2018 , 08:45 AM

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George Rice

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,873

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Originally Posted by DBurg

Way too strong. Just because tourists come and go, some tourist is still more likely win the promo than a regular. That is, unless the promo is of the type where you need a certain number of hours of play to qualify, or paid at a later date (such as a "free" tourney entry). But the regulars will eventually discover those promos with all that "dead" money and populate those games (both because of the promos and easier games).

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02-20-2018 , 03:13 PM

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Stu Ungar

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,966

Not that many here would play there, but I recently played at Sam's Town on Boulder Highway, and the rake was only $3..

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02-20-2018 , 03:40 PM

#17

pig4bill

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 33,731

I noticed at Bellagio that some dealers throw a red chip into the thing on the flop even if there's only 30-40 bucks in the pot.

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02-20-2018 , 04:04 PM

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Me2theEV

adept

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 848

Would be a good idea to put next to each room what the jackpot drop funds.

Like Ballys 4 + 2 - 20 hours played weekly freeroll and bad beat jackpot. (not sure if that's true)

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02-20-2018 , 06:07 PM

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NickMPK

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Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 11,567

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Originally Posted by pig4bill

I noticed at Bellagio that some dealers throw a red chip into the thing on the flop even if there's only 30-40 bucks in the pot.

Dealers should never be removing any rake in the middle of the hand; they should be setting it off to side, and waiting until the hand is over to drop it.

Sometimes dealers will temporarily set a red chip off to the side for rake even when the pot hasn't reached the $5 threshold. But if the pot remains lower than this threshold at the end of the hand, they will make change from this chip and put the appropriate amount back in the pot before dropping the rest.

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02-20-2018 , 06:54 PM

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zen.master

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 176

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Originally Posted by Me2theEV

Would be a good idea to put next to each room what the jackpot drop funds.

all that would accomplish is even more inaccuracies, plus the most up to date info is already on bravo with respect to promos.

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02-20-2018 , 07:15 PM

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synth_floyd

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,074

RIP $4 strip poker.

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02-20-2018 , 09:32 PM

#22

Bonomo's ears

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 142

Clearly now a market for a Strip room to move to $4 or $4+$1, but only if they get the word out. Maybe give Neeme/Brad/Polk a fee for an appearance & vlog promo. I'm thinking Excal or Strat (not sure if Strat is $5?)

What's stopping a more marginal room having 1 quieter day of the week where it's only $2+$1, filling the room, creating some buzz, and getting the momentum going for high hand & bad beat jackpots?

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02-21-2018 , 12:53 AM

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madlex

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 17,393

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Originally Posted by Bonomo's ears

Clearly now a market for a Strip room to move to $4 or $4+$1, but only if they get the word out. Maybe give Neeme/Brad/Polk a fee for an appearance & vlog promo.

The average person who always plays at the lowest raked place available, has no idea who those people are. Best case, they mistake one of them for their grandson.

Caesars was a horrible nitfest before they moved to $5. The last player I want in my game is one who cares if rake is $4 or $5.

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02-21-2018 , 03:39 AM

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3aces

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 252

Caesars was a horrible nitfest before they moved to $5. The last player I want in my game is one who cares if rake is $4 or $5.[/QUOTE]

It still is pretty bad since it’s the only 1/2 game that gives you 34 tier and $2 an hour in comps.