Marketplace Questions, Random Stuff - NOT FOR BUYING/SELLING - Page 23 - Selling Shares

You can take out the buyins*markup out of the package and send back to investors but you will still have the problem of not selling enough.

Set up a new schedule that leaves you enough time to sell however much you need. PM every investor and post in your thread. Ask if they wish to roll over the amount they sent to the new one, which would give them a larger %. If they agree, this will help you sell more since the revised package will be smaller. If they wish to have a full refund or partial then do so. Make sure everyone is informed.

If there is no extra interest and you are far from what you need then consider canceling the package and refunding. Unless you can find people at PCA to give you cash for action. Perhaps just play the small events on your own or something.

Thank you for your detailed reply. Was a great help.

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01-13-2011 , 07:02 PM

#552

DoctorX79

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how can we be allowed to create threads in the market place?

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01-13-2011 , 10:50 PM

#553

killer_kill

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Originally Posted by DoctorX79

how can we be allowed to create threads in the market place?

Is this serious? Also I'm pretty sure they approve active accounts, not one that just has a post once a year. I could be wrong, but it looks shady when a guy like you tries to get MP approved. But I digress.

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01-14-2011 , 01:14 AM

#554

Suigin406

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Originally Posted by DoctorX79

how can we be allowed to create threads in the market place?

Check out this thread on how to get approval:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...hreads-549708/

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01-17-2011 , 01:07 AM

#555

Hoobangin

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I have a question about live staking. If i'm staking someone for live cash games I don't understand how often I should be paying profit. No makeup involved in the deal so does that mean I should be giving profits daily? Just doesn't make sense to me because lets say he makes $400 Monday, $500 tuesday, even rest of days except one day loses $500 then his profits take a big dive if done weekly or monthly. Obviously you are going to make more if you get paid out daily since you don't have days where your profit is offset by loses.

Basically just want to know what is fair. Are there even cash game staking deals with no makeup? What kind of percentages would you be looking at for a deal of this fashion.

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01-17-2011 , 12:06 PM

#556

killer_kill

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Originally Posted by Hoobangin

Why would you do staking w/no makeup? I'd say something like 80/20, in your favor obviously, sounds fair. Also I'll go link you the "Staking guide to cash/mtts". Uno memento.

Edit- http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...-games-306028/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...stions-166284/

Last edited by killer_kill; 01-17-2011 at 12:09 PM. Reason: Added links

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01-23-2011 , 06:15 AM

#557

Vintage00

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Semi grunch, but why is buying FTP points so scarce anymore? I have been taking a break from playing for a little bit, but trying to sell Full Tilt points to get back in, yet nobody seems to be buying. I'm assuming this is Black Card related, but I just wanted to pinpoint the exact reason.

Thank you in advance.

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01-23-2011 , 01:27 PM

#558

JL514

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Originally Posted by Vintage00

Due to BC multipliers and FTP store price increases, points are not as valuable as they used to be. It looks like the true market rate is going to be closer to $3 with the new system.

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01-31-2011 , 05:46 PM

#559

mg0698

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I want to trade coaching for help with building/designing a website. Which forum will I post this ?

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02-01-2011 , 11:48 PM

#560

gtpitch

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Originally Posted by mg0698

I want to trade coaching for help with building/designing a website. Which forum will I post this ?

Only sponsored coaches are permitted to offer coaching in exchange for something else.

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02-02-2011 , 10:08 AM

#561

peter17319

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I think I asked this a while ago, but now I'm finally ready to post something for sale, so I'll check again.

Which is considered to be the best payment method to use (as a seller) ?

Paypal
PS/FT transfer

Not only which one is safer for the seller, but also which method is more popular, and thus something that buyers are expecting as an option.

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02-02-2011 , 12:05 PM

#562

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Originally Posted by peter17319

I think I asked this a while ago, but now I'm finally ready to post something for sale, so I'll check again.

Which is considered to be the best payment method to use (as a seller) ?

Paypal
PS/FT transfer

Not only which one is safer for the seller, but also which method is more popular, and thus something that buyers are expecting as an option.

I'd say probably PS>FT>PP imo. FT money might be a little bit more valuable with the FTOPS starting but I'm not sure. But afaik people usually prefer poker sites, plus the whole "Paypal scams/reverse charges" element.

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02-02-2011 , 12:27 PM

#563

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Originally Posted by peter17319

I'm new to the 2+2 Marketplace, so I'm unsure of a few things (as a seller).

1) The typical form of payment is Stars/FTP transfers, right? As a seller, is there anything risky about that? Once I see the $ in my account, am I 100% safe to ship the item(s)?

2) I have no Marketplace feedback, so I'm unsure how to project myself as a safe seller. I know the trick of including my 2+2 screen name on a piece of paper in any photos, but I don't know anyone else on the forum that can be a "reference". I have a stellar rating on eBay, but it's a different screen name, so I'm sure that does me no good...

FWIW -- I will be selling about 20-30 poker books.

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Originally Posted by Le Gonso

Plenty of risk, although certainly it's safer for you if you receive first. However there are cases where transfers are reversed. Worse, if you do business with someone shady, your account could be tied to theirs in a bad way, and Stars/FTP could freeze your account and possibly seize your funds. Be careful who you do business with.

Photos and whatnot help a little bit, but as you're relatively unknown there's not all that much you can do. Chances are no one is going to be shipping large sums to you up front, so you may be asked to send first. Of course you've been around longer than the guy who showed up 6 months ago, which helps a little.

Personally I try to avoid doing business with unknowns altogether and stick to forum regs, the flake/scammer factor here is really bad. But then again, you're just selling used books and not Mac Pro laptops. I'd say take a few photos, piece them out, and give a clean screen name they can ship to. See what happens.

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Originally Posted by peter17319

As long as a buyer is willing to use Paypal, is that definitely the better way to go? Or can that just as easily be reversed?

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Originally Posted by JL514

Site transfer will help you sell much faster, and paypal is not w/o its problems too with chargebacks.

Just try to deal with established members and everything else Gonso said.

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Originally Posted by Le Gonso

Google "Paypal scam" imo

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Originally Posted by killer_kill

Basically everything gonso said obviously. Also this isn't always the case, but people who pm you out the blue (like if you're trying to buy something in someone else's thread) is usually a red flag. Guess that isn't relevant to your question, but good to know. Also everyone you want to sell to or that wants to buy from you, ask them for positive trades/feedback or ref's. If they get all huffy puffy then obviously something is wrong. A guy w/a clean 2p2 record and that's on the up and up would have 0 problems sending you some sales or a stake he received that went well etc. Join date and post counts help too but aren't the end all way to know if someone's a scammer. People can amass post counts in POG and BBV etc.

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Originally Posted by peter17319

The biggest protection against Paypal scams is not accepting Credit Card payments, right? Aren't balance transfers and bank account payments much safer for the receiver?

And a question on poker transfers. Any real difference between Stars and FTP? Is one easier/simpler to do? Safer from scammers?

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Originally Posted by JL514

You're never safe from scammers unless you don't do any transactions at all. For a single user, I'm not sure that Stars or FTP is better than the other. There are a lot of threads in the Zoo you might be interested in reading. They might help you come to your own conclusion.

Here is the conversation from the last time you asked this. (from this thread fwiw)

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02-03-2011 , 10:00 PM

#564

CardDeadForever

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I read the marketplace rules and meet all the critera. I sent a message to be approved via the control panel. It says I am approved on my control panel but I still cannot start a thread in the marketplace.

Am I missing something or is this an error?

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02-03-2011 , 10:25 PM

#565

JL514

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You're not approved. Probably related to your HOP on ptp.

Last edited by JL514; 02-03-2011 at 11:17 PM.

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02-03-2011 , 10:40 PM

#566

Senzu

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hello,

trying to get approved for selling in the general marketplace. I am a pretty active staker on 2+2 as well as ptp with no issues. sent in a request via control panel, but no response.

thanks

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02-03-2011 , 11:18 PM

#567

JL514

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you applied 7 hours ago

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02-04-2011 , 12:06 AM

#568

CardDeadForever

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Originally Posted by JL514

You're not approved. Probably related to your HOP on ptp.

pretty surprising. imo if my ptp account proves anything it is that I am more trustworthy handling money than 9/10 people who apply to the marketplace. It was pretty much a small misunderstanding of a rule which lead to an argument, which lead to me being an ******* when I was wrongfully insulted. And being stubborn I would rather wear the gear than say I am wrong when I didnt believe I was.

So I wont have access to it until that runs out in 3 months?

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02-04-2011 , 12:06 AM

#569

CardDeadForever

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Also note I have over 5 transactions so far, all but 1 shipping 2nd.

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02-05-2011 , 12:36 AM

#570

gtpitch

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Originally Posted by CardDeadForever

Also note I have over 5 transactions so far, all but 1 shipping 2nd.

Wow 5!?!

So noted.

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02-05-2011 , 07:08 AM

#571

Kamikam

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Am I allowed to start a thread requesting money on my paypal account in exchange for money i'll send on moneybooker or PS ? Small transaction, ~$100

Edit- actually I have never credited my paypal account yet so not sure if it'd work or if i have to send money from a bank account with my name first to verify it

Last edited by Kamikam; 02-05-2011 at 07:19 AM.

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02-05-2011 , 03:35 PM

#572

killer_kill

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Originally Posted by Kamikam

I think you can do a post in the zoo (internet poker) that says "Have Paypal *insert amount* want Pokerstars *insert amount*. PS name- *insert name*". Not sure how it works on posting a PP name or what MH's rule on that is tbh. Not sure if you can just ask for PP to moneybookers in there or not.

Last edited by killer_kill; 02-05-2011 at 03:37 PM. Reason: LOL at GT's comment

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02-05-2011 , 05:19 PM

#573

gtpitch

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Originally Posted by killer_kill

Don't do this.

You can't trade for PayPal anywhere. Its not allowed in the transfer thread in the zoo - and money swaps like he's describing aren't allowed in the marketplace.

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02-05-2011 , 10:26 PM

#574

killer_kill

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Sorry my bad then guys. I apologize for the bunk info. Is any non-poker site not allowed in the zoo then (PP, moneybookers etc)? Again my bad on being misinformed.

Last edited by killer_kill; 02-05-2011 at 10:27 PM. Reason: Please delete my comment above GT's since I was confused.